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Title: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
After listening to MaRo's podcast, and after some thought. I think a return to kamigawa is definitely possible. The cards that care about spirits arnt parasitic anymore, because there are lots of spirits now. The only thing parasitic in kamigawa now is arcane. And with a little inginuity, i think that can be remedied...maybe a card that makes all instants/sorceries you sat arcane? That way, you can splice with any instant or sorcery.

What else was there? Samurai? And cards that cared about them? Hmmm...if we return to Lorwyn, they can make a card that makes a creature the creature type of your choice till the end of the turn. They'd also have to make a card/s that cared about the number of a certain creature type being on the battlefield (under any player)

Other than that, find another world were they can put samurai. Or make a card that makes samurai tokens?

What are everyone's thoughts about what needs to happen before a return to kamigawa?
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 11:35:27 AM
Oh, and in modern I posted a deck that tries to abuse soulshift
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 12, 2013, 11:44:37 AM
MaRo, on Blogatog, seems very skeptical about returning to kamigawa. I am a HUGE advocate of it, mostly because it was one of my first sets and...well...NINJITSU AND BUSHIDO!. From what I can glean from him, a return to kamigawa with the plane being destroyed by a villain (Nicol Bolas, Phyrexians, Eldrazi,...) could happen in the next decade but a flat out return to Kamigawa would be very unlikely.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
Wasn't it being destroyed by the kami? All they have to do is let the kami win. And poof! You have the plane being destroyed by a villian
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Dudecore on October 12, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I hope they don't go back. Japanese culture doesn't interest me the much, and isn't YuGiOh already about that type of thing?
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Gorzo on October 12, 2013, 03:55:20 PM
I wouldn't mind a return to Kamigawa eventually, but not any time soon. It was pretty heavy on enchantments, and with Theros now, two enchantment blocks near each other would be... Quite bad.

But the moonfolk, spirits, elementals, and best of all, the arcane spells, would have serious fun potential if brought up to current meta power levels (Kamigawa was notoriously underpowered as a block).
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 12, 2013, 03:55:20 PM
(Kamigawa was notoriously underpowered as a block).
blame Mirridon
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Spikepit on October 13, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
They'll return there one day, for sure. They wouldn't have made {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} if they hadn't wanted to keep it as a possibility. But as much as I'm an advocate for for, it won't happen for AAAGES unfortunately.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 13, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Maybe they'll return to the first top down set one day...portal three kingdoms
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
Wasn't it being destroyed by the kami? All they have to do is let the kami win. And poof! You have the plane being destroyed by a villian
Yes, but people would be more interested if one of the well-known villains like the Eldrazi were to attack it.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Birdbrain on October 13, 2013, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 12, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
Wasn't it being destroyed by the kami? All they have to do is let the kami win. And poof! You have the plane being destroyed by a villian
Yes, but people would be more interested if one of the well-known villains like the Eldrazi were to attack it.
what if the kami had been unleashed by nicol bolas as part of some strange plan?
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 13, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 12, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I hope they don't go back. Japanese culture doesn't interest me the much, and isn't YuGiOh already about that type of thing?

Not unless it's changed alot in the year I haven't played... There were very very few japanese based cards in that...
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Dudecore on October 13, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 13, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 12, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I hope they don't go back. Japanese culture doesn't interest me the much, and isn't YuGiOh already about that type of thing?

Not unless it's changed alot in the year I haven't played... There were very very few japanese based cards in that...

Oh. I've never played it before or watched the show. I thought it was about Dragon's and other mythical Japanese creatures fighting.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 13, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 13, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 13, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 12, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I hope they don't go back. Japanese culture doesn't interest me the much, and isn't YuGiOh already about that type of thing?

Not unless it's changed alot in the year I haven't played... There were very very few japanese based cards in that...

Oh. I've never played it before or watched the show. I thought it was about Dragon's and other mythical Japanese creatures fighting.

No, it was originally a Japanese manga loosely based upon Egyptian mythology
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Shadridium on October 15, 2013, 07:14:25 PM
Kamigawa was printed so magic could compete with the card game legend of the five rings for audience appeal.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 15, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Quote from: Shadridium on October 15, 2013, 07:14:25 PM
Kamigawa was printed so magic could compete with the card game legend of the five rings for audience appeal.
The five rings?
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Shadridium on October 16, 2013, 12:09:15 PM
It's called legend of the five rings its a very very complex card game based in like a Fudel Japan world, very interesting.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Destore117 on October 16, 2013, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 13, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 13, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 12, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I hope they don't go back. Japanese culture doesn't interest me the much, and isn't YuGiOh already about that type of thing?

Not unless it's changed alot in the year I haven't played... There were very very few japanese based cards in that...

Oh. I've never played it before or watched the show. I thought it was about Dragon's and other mythical Japanese creatures fighting.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Is about Egyptian creatures. Although the main characters live in Japan I believe.

I personally believe a return to Kamigawa would be great I love the whole feudal Japan idea. Samurais and Ninjas to me are some of the coolest cards in Magic. Misplace a planeswalker or two into Kamigawa and have another big war of the Oni/Kami?
Yes please.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Anoobass on October 16, 2013, 07:02:46 PM
Talked to head judge at lgs, he said he thought zendikar was destroyed.
Title: Re: Returning to kamigawa is possible
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 16, 2013, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: Anoobass on October 16, 2013, 07:02:46 PM
Talked to head judge at lgs, he said he thought zendikar was destroyed.
No. The eldrazi were released, and ravaged the plane. A few elves survived and used their magic (led by Nissa) to heal some of the forests. It could be saved.