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Title: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: Gorzo on October 07, 2013, 06:05:26 AM
So, I'm currently building my new standard deck. It is Rakdos, and a mix of agro and control. The idea is "play super agro creatures turn 1 and 2, and flood the board with removal and burn until they (quickly) build to lethal. If they stall on dropping dudes for me to nuke, {Rakdos, Lord of Riots} says hello."

Now here's the question. I can only fit so much removal, as much as I'd like to fit all of the below. I would really like some opinions from more active standard players. I currently have 20 cards slots devoted to removal and burn, and am looking at the following cards;

4x {Dreadbore} (non-negotiable)
4x {Hero's Downfall}
4x {Doom Blade}
4x ?
4x ?

For "?" Which of the following are the best in standard? I'm looking at;

{Shock}
Pros - 1 mana. Hits creatures OR players. Great for allowing {Rakdos, Lord of Riots}.
Cons - very limited creature removal power beyond the first couple turns.
{Mizzium Mortars} - I never plan on overloading this.
Pros - great creature removal power for 2 mana. Still useful in removing creatures well into later turns.
Cons - can't target the player if needed, useless vs hexproof. Sorcery speed.
{Magma Jet}
Pros - SCRY. Helps draws. Can target creature or player.
Cons - Costs more than shock for the same damage, shares shock's inability to kill many creatures.
{Lightning Strike}
Pros - 3 damage, better able to remove creatures. Targets creature or player.
Cons - ?

I'm leaning towards Mortars and Lightning strike for me deck, as creature killing power seems like the thing I need, but I'd love to hear from players who are better at standard than myself. Would I be a fool not to use magma jet or shock?
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 07, 2013, 07:15:55 AM
I would definitely use {Mizzium Mortars} because of its board wiping but for the second I am stuck between {Searing Spear} and {Magma Jet}. I would have to give it to {Magma Jet} though because the scrying can help you to better work out your mana drops and to filter out the stuff you don't want from the top of your deck.
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 07, 2013, 07:47:21 AM
I'd go Mortars and Magma Jet. 4 damage kills a lot if creatures, that could potentially open up
A whole new line of attack. Jet because if deals 2, enough for Rakdos and not much mana, and it could get rid of USELESS things.
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: DylanW18 on October 07, 2013, 08:47:01 AM
I agree, Mizzium and Magma. Mizzium's 4 damage is so vital in the meta ({Loxodon Smiter} {Blodd Baron of Vizkopa}!!!

And with my Grixis control, that Magma Jet has saved me by changing my draws. It's just such a good ability
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: JordanCirk on October 07, 2013, 10:03:29 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on October 07, 2013, 08:47:01 AM
I agree, Mizzium and Magma. Mizzium's 4 damage is so vital in the meta ({Loxodon Smiter} {Blodd Baron of Vizkopa}!!!

And with my Grixis control, that Magma Jet has saved me by changing my draws. It's just such a good ability
Can't agree enough. Magma jet is amazing.
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: DylanW18 on October 07, 2013, 10:09:22 AM
Also in Standard since {Thragtusk} left, more threats have been at 2 toughness (although {Fleecemane Lion} is the exception, for the most part)

Just Scry 2 and deal 2 for 2 is sick. So. much. Value. And uncommon! Only $1-$2
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: Pirate John on October 07, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Chandra is a must have if you want to play {rakdos, Lord of riots}.
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: LadyGrixis on October 07, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
{Skullcrack}? {Doom Blade}? I'm hoping to see some Cacklers in here :)
Title: Re: Which red burns are the best in standard?
Post by: Gorzo on October 07, 2013, 04:08:36 PM
Thanks everyone for the tips! Sounds like mortars and magma jet is the way to go.

And yes, LadyGrixis, there are Cacklers ;) got a playset of FNM promos in there!

I'll post the decklist once I'm done figuring out my sideboard, and seeing if I can fit Chandra in somehow. I hate making cuts :P

Edit: Deck posted: "Rakdos Blood And Fire Party!"