Say I have two {Prophet of Kruphix} on the field. On my oppent's untap step, do they trigger simultaneously, or do the triggers resolve separately? If they resolve one at a time, may I cast say {Advent of the Wurm}, then the other Prophet untap the lands I just tapped for Advent?
Edit: they're not triggered abilities, so you can't do any stack shenanigans with them.
They may be two triggers, but since they will only be on the stack the next time a player receives priority (which would be upkeep), the untapping would only apply once effectively, isn't it?
Untap phase
Trigger from prophet 1
Trigger from prophet 2
Upkeep
Top of stack
Trigger 2
Trigger 1
Casts advent
Top of stack
Advent
Trigger 2
Trigger 1
So the most is only 1 untap effectively, isn't it (though its 2 in total)?
So can I not cast Advent in between the two resolutions?
That's insanity!
Quote from: MementoMori on October 04, 2013, 08:34:08 AM
Quote from: Paraluke on October 04, 2013, 03:05:30 AM
They may be two triggers, but since they will only be on the stack the next time a player receives priority (which would be upkeep), the untapping would only apply once effectively, isn't it?
No. Each player must receive and pass priority before each object on the stack resolves.
Trigger 2
Trigger 1
Trigger 2 resolves, untapping all of your lands and creatures. Then the active player gets priority, then you do. That's when you cast Advent.
Advent of the Wurm
Trigger 1
Advent resolves, each player gets priority again, then trigger 1 resolves, untapping the lands you used to cast Advent.
Quote from: Pete on October 04, 2013, 03:09:26 AM
So can I not cast Advent in between the two resolutions?
Yes, you can.
My apologies, missed out on that fundamental fact.
I'm going to offer a dissenting view here - Prophet's first ability isn't a Triggered ability at all. It simply modifies how the game is played.
Triggered abilities always begin with "When", "Whenever" or "At the...". Prophet uses none of these. It simply tells you that you untap all of your lands and creatures during each other payer's untap step. No trigger. It just happens.
This is backed up by the face that no players, under any circumstances, get priority during the untap step. If anything "Triggers" during th untap step, it is placed on the stack during the upkeep. However, since Prophet isn't triggered, it just happens.
Long story short, multiple Prophets are redundant and wont actually let you ramp during your opponent's turns.
RESOLVED
Oh. You're right. I never actually read the card, just assumed it was an upkeep trigger instead of modifying the untap step, since the OP used the term "trigger."
So yeah, you can't do any shenanigans with Prophet. Whoops.
Quote from: MementoMori on October 04, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
Oh. You're right. I never actually read the card, just assumed it was an upkeep trigger instead of modifying the untap step, since the OP used the term "trigger."
So yeah, you can't do any shenanigans with Prophet. Whoops.
you can do shenanigans with it
No stack shenanigans.