This might be predicted as sb but I'm relatively new to the game (I've only been playing a year or two) but can plains walkers activate there effects the turn the become in play? ( for example my for example my friend has nico bolas and I have darksteel colossus can if I have Dc out on the field can he summon nico bolas and use his -3 and take DC away from me?)
What about an enchantment creature as an enchant?
One more thing though, if a non-creature permanent is not in your battlefield from the beginning of your turn becomes a creature somehow, it too is susceptible to summoning sickness.
Tab thanks for posting but let's say my friend summons nico bolas then its my turn and I bring out DC can I attack nico bolas(if there is nothing to defend with) even though he is a creature(artifact)?
Dryad arbor does have summoning sickness. It can't attack and you can't use it for mana the turn it comes into play.
Thanks tab
That is correct. If you turn your mutavault into a creature an you have not controlled it since the beginning of your last turn you can not tap it for mana as that is a tapping activated ability that the creature has
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 23, 2013, 10:34:46 AM
Dryad arbor does have summoning sickness. It can't attack and you can't use it for mana the turn it comes into play.
Now, what if I have {Blood Moon} in play and play {Dryad Arbor}. Would it still have sickness? Or can it be used that turn for red mana?
Blood moon states in its rulings the lands lose all land types and abilities and gains mountain along with the tap for red ability. It does not say it loses all types which leads me to believe it is still a creature. It also says it does not affect super types such as creature
Just to clear up the confusion on the {Dryad Arbor} situation. It will be a 1/1 Green Mountain Dryad, but it will produce red mana instead.
Here's one of its rulings from Gatherer:
9/22/2011 If Dryad Arbor is changed into another basic land type (such as by Sea's Claim), it continues to be a creature and a Dryad.
Also, let's try and keep these Rules questions on topic, please. If you have questions about different card interactions, it deserves its own post! It also makes it easier for other users who have the same or similar question(s) to find the answer, and makes the current post less confusing to navigate.
Quote from: Taysby on September 22, 2013, 07:44:30 PM
An enchantment creature as an enchantment is just that, an enchantment. It wouldn't exist as a creature so it would not be summoning sick. Think {dryad arbor} you can tap it for a mana with its land ability, but you can't attack with it because it would be summoning sick. Same here. You can use the enchantment abilities, but you can't use the creature abilities that would cause it to tap. If you mean you play it as a creature, then it would be summoning sick, because it's under the creature category in additions to the enchantment category. The "can't" ability always takes precedence.
Actually dryad arbor does have summoning sickness, and it cannot tap for mana the turn it enters. It is still a creature after all
One question on planewalker; if I cast {Lightning Bolt} on my opponent, can I redirect a portion of the damage to the planewalker? Say 2 damage coz there's only 2 loyalty counter on it?
No, you redirect the source which would deal damage to the opponent to the opponent's planeswalker.
So if the source deals 3 damage, you redirect that source which is 3 damage. You can't split it.
306.7. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=306.7.): If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 614.9) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 616). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.
Thanks, Paraluke.
If the spell is {Electrolyze}, can it split?
Thanks, Paraluke.
If the spell is {Electrolyze}, can it split?
Whaaaa?...
Logically yes, since the spell did say it is divided.
But I think this needs to be clarified by the experts since my earlier quote from the rules did make this a little confusing.
Quote from: Maxpayne03 on September 29, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Thanks, Paraluke.
If the spell is {Electrolyze}, can it split?
The first one
Quote from: Maxpayne03 on September 29, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Thanks, Paraluke.
If the spell is {Electrolyze}, can it split?
The second. Anyone else get this?
Yes, I see 2 copies of the same post.
Weeeeird!
Quote from: Maxpayne03 on September 29, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Thanks, Paraluke.
If the spell is {Electrolyze}, can it split?
It cannot. When you play {Electrolyze} and hit the player, the time to split is already up. You hit the player, and then you can redirect that damage to the PW; it's all or nothing.
Until we get a card that says "does 3 damage divided as you choose among any number of players, planeswalkers, and creatures" we'll have to deal with it. I cannot think of any card that would allow you to divide the damage as you're wanting, I'm afraid.
{Flames of the Firebrand}?
Didn't notice electrolyte only does 2 damage.
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
{Chandra's Outrage}?
What about it? You can redirect the 2 damage to the controller to one of that player's walkers. Just like any other damage spell.
Quote from: MementoMori on September 30, 2013, 12:48:40 AM
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
{Chandra's Outrage}?
What about it? You can redirect the 2 damage to the controller to one of that player's walkers. Just like any other damage spell.
Modified my post to mean firebrand...
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
{Flames of the Firebrand}?
Didn't notice electrolyte only does 2 damage.
Same deal. You choose your player(s) and can redirect the damage to a PW. There's no way to split it.
Quote from: Keyeto on September 30, 2013, 01:11:28 AM
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
{Flames of the Firebrand}?
Didn't notice electrolyte only does 2 damage.
Same deal. You choose your player(s) and can redirect the damage to a PW. There's no way to split it.
Ah so if I say 2 damage to player 1 damage to creature it would be treated as 2 damage as the source, not 1 + 1.
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 01:40:42 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on September 30, 2013, 01:11:28 AM
Quote from: Paraluke on September 30, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
{Flames of the Firebrand}?
Didn't notice electrolyte only does 2 damage.
Same deal. You choose your player(s) and can redirect the damage to a PW. There's no way to split it.
Ah so if I say 2 damage to player 1 damage to creature it would be treated as 2 damage as the source, not 1 + 1.
Exactly! It does not matter if the spell lets you divide damage or damage multiple players, etc. Whatever damage is being dealt to the player with the PW can be redirected, in total or not at all.
Thanks keyeto ;)
MaxPayne03 I hope you got your answer.
Thanks Paraluke and Keyeto!
Appreciate your help. 👍