{phalanx leader} + {common bond}
He'll get four +1/+1 counters. Two from his ability, and two from the spell
pretty cool,
how about an 9/9
turn one forest into mana dork {Elvish mystic}
turn two plains into two drop or {elixir of immortality}
turn three forest into {heros reunion} gain seven life cast {voracious wurm} 9/9
or crack elixir gain five life cast wurm 7/7
Selesnya is going to be bad@$$ in Theros
indeed.
Quote from: Almosteric on September 19, 2013, 09:31:25 AM
pretty cool,
how about an 9/9
turn one forest into mana dork {Elvish mystic}
turn two plains into two drop or {elixir of immortality}
turn three forest into {heros reunion} gain seven life cast {voracious wurm} 9/9
or crack elixir gain five life cast wurm 7/7
If you were to drop elixir and a second and third mystic on turn 2 you could use both for a total life gain of 12, giving you a 14/14
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 19, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
{phalanx leader} + {common bond}
He'll get four +1/+1 counters. Two from his ability, and two from the spell
Heroic is activated per casting right? Doesn't that mean targeting it more than once from a single casted spell only activates Heroic once?
Quote from: Steerpike on September 19, 2013, 02:39:06 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 19, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
{phalanx leader} + {common bond}
He'll get four +1/+1 counters. Two from his ability, and two from the spell
Heroic is activated per casting right? Doesn't that mean targeting it more than once from a single casted spell only activates Heroic once?
no, because it targets a creature with a +1/+1 counter. Then you can choose to target it again with a +1/+1 counter
I was a little curious cause Heroic says "whenever you cast a spell..."
If there's only one casting, doesn't the number of times you can target not matter?
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
You can Bloodrush a summoning sick creature, because they have to attack
Oh yeah! Giant growth it is instead then - also giving you the chance to cast in their turn.
Quote from: Flashley_ska on September 20, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
bloodrush doesn't target
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Flashley_ska on September 20, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
bloodrush doesn't target
It really does. "Target attacking creature..."
Quote from: griffin131 on September 20, 2013, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Flashley_ska on September 20, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
bloodrush doesn't target
It really does. "Target attacking creature..."
on another thread. Someone said it wouldn't work with heroic
I think the contention there is whether it is whether"cast" or just an ability is activated. as far as i can tell bloodless is an alternative cost to cast, so would count. either way, there's enough one drop instants and sorceress to make the second turn still profit, without rush.
You're not casting a spell when you bloodrush. It won't trigger heroic.
Bloodrush is clearly an activated ability. Compare it to overload or bestow; both of those mechanics use the word "cast" in their text. Bloodrush is written as "[Cost]: [Effect]" and makes no mention of casting.
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on September 20, 2013, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Flashley_ska on September 20, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
bloodrush doesn't target
It really does. "Target attacking creature..."
on another thread. Someone said it wouldn't work with heroic
It doesn't work because Bloodrush isn't casting a spell. Bloodrush definitely targets.
Ah, found it on mtgsalvation (i assume that's reliable)
"Heroic abilities trigger only once per spell, even if that spell targets the creature with the heroic ability multiple times"
Quote from: Steerpike on September 21, 2013, 03:40:06 AM
Ah, found it on mtgsalvation (i assume that's reliable)
"Heroic abilities trigger only once per spell, even if that spell targets the creature with the heroic ability multiple times"
what about replicate? Technically with replicate your casting a whole new spell
Turn 4 9/9...drop a {Heroes' Reunion} with a {Voracious Wurm}. If you put down a mana dork on T1 or T2 you could do it turn 3.
Replicate, and similar effects that say copy target spell copy it on the stack, so don't "cast" the copy.
If instead an effect says to copy target card(ref. {elite arcanist}) then cast the copy, you're good.
As far as I can tell, yes.