So, let's say I have an {Akroan Crusader} and throw a {Coordinated Assault} on him:
1) Could I target the same Crusader both times, and
2) If I can, would I get one token or two out of this?
Up to two. That's the key phrase. You have only chosen one, and you cannot choose the same one twice to fulfil up to two as it would still be a total of one.
One creature. One effect. One token.
Can you give the token the other +1/+0?
No, the spell resolves before the token is placed.
Quote from: Wally on September 19, 2013, 02:44:47 AM
One creature. One effect. One token.
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Quote from: DylanW18 on September 19, 2013, 03:33:54 AM
No, the spell resolves before the token is placed.
Are you sure doesn't it target before it resolves? Then once it's targeted that's when Heroic resolves and places a token. Then the spell resolves.
Positive. Targets are selected as the spell is cast and placed on the stack (along with modes). Resolving happens later.
Elaborate breakdown:
As the assault is cast, its targets are declared. It targets the heroic creature.
Heroic is triggered, and the heroic ability is added to the stack on top of the assault.
Heroic trigger resolves. You get a token! Yay!
Assault resolves. Its target(s) are still the heroic creature, and JUST the heroic creature.
Hope that helps
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2013, 04:01:38 AM
Positive. Targets are selected as the spell it cast and placed on the stack (along with modes). Resolving happens later.
Still confused sorry (it is 4am lol) so here's how I see it and correct me.
1. Cast {Dauntless Onslaught}
2. Target {Akroan Crusader}. Since the Crusader is targeted from a spell that's been cast I put a token onto the battlefield
3. Ohhhhh Id have to target both at the same time my bad
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2013, 04:01:38 AM
Positive. Targets are selected as the spell is cast and placed on the stack (along with modes). Resolving happens later.
Elaborate breakdown:
As the assault is cast, its targets are declared. It targets the heroic creature.
Heroic is triggered, and the heroic ability is added to the stack on top of the assault.
Heroic trigger resolves. You get a token! Yay!
Assault resolves. Its target(s) are still the heroic creature, and JUST the heroic creature.
Hope that helps
Thanks Gorzo, I'm a bit tired lol
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2013, 04:01:38 AM
Positive. Targets are selected as the spell is cast and placed on the stack (along with modes). Resolving happens later.
Elaborate breakdown:
As the assault is cast, its targets are declared. It targets the heroic creature.
Heroic is triggered, and the heroic ability is added to the stack on top of the assault.
Heroic trigger resolves. You get a token! Yay!
Assault resolves. Its target(s) are still the heroic creature, and JUST the heroic creature.
Hope that helps
It does thanks!!
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 19, 2013, 03:59:00 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 19, 2013, 03:33:54 AM
No, the spell resolves before the token is placed.
Are you sure doesn't it target before it resolves? Then once it's targeted that's when Heroic resolves and places a token. Then the spell resolves.
i think you want {common bond}