Spoiler season never ends!!! Lets start trying to figure out about this next set
http://mythicspoiler.com/
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/born-of-the-gods-spoiler.html
Trailer Viewed Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfHuYo9Hw1Q)
I think something practically OPPOSITE of heroic- whenever an opponent targets this creature, that player or creatures that player controls stuff. Like
Whenever a opponent casts a spell that targets this creature, that player loses 3 life.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:23:09 PM
I think something practically OPPOSITE of heroic- whenever an opponent targets this creature, that player or creatures that player controls stuff. Like
Whenever a opponent casts a spell that targets this creature, that player loses 3 life.
put that on creatures the opponent would want to remove for an evil template
What would they even call that? I think I want to see a heroic monster or a bestow to give heroic
For the front page
http://mythicspoiler.com/
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on September 15, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
What would they even call that? I think I want to see a heroic monster or a bestow to give heroic
whats the opposite of a hero? A villian. What's the opposite of heroic? Villainous
I feel like we will see 5 new dual Scry lands like for the remaining 5 dual colours.
(Just a joke lol)
But ya I like the idea of a new heroic but for when opponents target or even something like whenever A player targets this creature *insert effect here*
Also, ajani here or in journey to nyx?
Also, what planeswalker do you expect? It goes big, small, small; so there are three in Theros, one in the following set, and the last one in the set after that.
So far we have Elspeth and two new ones. W,UB, and RG.
I think we need a UG and a WG Planeswalker to cover all the bi-colors.
Maybe Kiora Atua and Dak Fayden.
Kiora would be UG
I don't know what Dak would be because I've never read the comics.
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we fill it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B}
{W}{R}
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text)
{U}{G}
{B}{R}
{B}{G}
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Pharika, God of Poison ({B}{G}?) source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
A god is a legendary enchantment creature with mysterious abilities and are able to travel between the enchantment world of Nyx and the real world of Theros.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
A god is a legendary enchantment creature with mysterious abilities and are able to travel between the enchantment world of Nyx and the real world of Theros.
speaking of which. I think journey into Nyx is all enchantment creatures
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
A god is a legendary enchantment creature with mysterious abilities and are able to travel between the enchantment world of Nyx and the real world of Theros.
speaking of which. I think journey into Nyx is all enchantment creatures
That would be epic!!! Although I highly doubt it, there will probably be quite a bit of enchantments but they will still have some stuff from 'the real world of Theros' like Heroes, Satyrs, Centaurs, ect.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
A god is a legendary enchantment creature with mysterious abilities and are able to travel between the enchantment world of Nyx and the real world of Theros.
speaking of which. I think journey into Nyx is all enchantment creatures
That would be epic!!! Although I highly doubt it, there will probably be quite a bit of enchantments but they will still have some stuff from 'the real world of Theros' like Heroes, Satyrs, Centaurs, ect.
why is it called "Journey into Nyx" if the set doesn't take place in Nyx?
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
So is a God basically a Planeswalker, only confined to their local plane?
A god is a legendary enchantment creature with mysterious abilities and are able to travel between the enchantment world of Nyx and the real world of Theros.
speaking of which. I think journey into Nyx is all enchantment creatures
That would be epic!!! Although I highly doubt it, there will probably be quite a bit of enchantments but they will still have some stuff from 'the real world of Theros' like Heroes, Satyrs, Centaurs, ect.
why is it called "Journey into Nyx" if the set doesn't take place in Nyx?
Yes, but there will have to be some non enchantment creatures, Wizards wouldn't make a whole set with only them because they didn't know how people would respond to them. The set will most likely have some normal creatures that are "invading Nyx" or are "servants" or "devoted to the gods". Maybe a Heroes quest to destroy one of the gods or a war between that gods that centers around devotion.
Although if they were all enchantment creatures (because like you said, wizards is testing the waters with them) you could potentially have a green wrath in limited
{G}{G}{2}
Sorcery
Destroy all enchantments
Doing all enchantment creatures in the last set would create an interesting limited format because the colors have more options and it could shift the color pie around without actually shifting the color pie around. And it would be different and hone skills as people adapt to something new
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
Doing all enchantment creatures in the last set would create an interesting limited format because the colors have more options and it could shift the color pie around without actually shifting the color pie around. And it would be different and hone skills as people adapt to something new
Yeah, I would love it too but it would confuse beginners (could you imagine trying to learn during that set) and would anger too many people (there are already people throwing a fit about these enchantment creatures).
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
Doing all enchantment creatures in the last set would create an interesting limited format because the colors have more options and it could shift the color pie around without actually shifting the color pie around. And it would be different and hone skills as people adapt to something new
Yeah, I would love it too but it would confuse beginners (could you imagine trying to learn during that set) and would anger too many people (there are already people throwing a fit about these enchantment creatures).
there were people throwing a fit about the transform mechanic at the beginning of innistrad, yet there was an outcry when there were no transform cards in Avacyn Restored
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:40:23 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
Doing all enchantment creatures in the last set would create an interesting limited format because the colors have more options and it could shift the color pie around without actually shifting the color pie around. And it would be different and hone skills as people adapt to something new
Yeah, I would love it too but it would confuse beginners (could you imagine trying to learn during that set) and would anger too many people (there are already people throwing a fit about these enchantment creatures).
there were people throwing a fit about the transform mechanic at the beginning of innistrad, yet there was an outcry when there were no transform cards in Avacyn Restored
Everyone was excited for Kamigawa when was first revealed "Ninjas, samurai, dragons oh my!" then people got Saviors of Kamigawa (I personally love Kamigawa but many consider it as one of the worst sets ever). My point is players are fickle and Wizards knows this too so they won't do anything too drastic, like make a set with only enchantment creatures.
They might if they extended pillow fort into all colors. Not just white. There's also potential to make new archetypes here. They could even push the cost of enchantment creatures sense they have more ways to be removed
Or they could make the enchantment creatures do things that enchantments or creatures can't do on there own
Plus there's the fact that people are fickle like you said
I just want to see a set with all enchantment creatures because the idea is so obscured
Kiora will be in this set and u/g and ajani will be w/g.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we fill it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B}
{W}{R}
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text)
{U}{G}
{B}{R}
{B}{G}
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Pharika, God of Poison ({B}{G}?) source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263
i think the {W}{B} god is called athreos
Hence {scholar of athreos}
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
Kiora will be in this set and u/g and ajani will be w/g.
I don't get why there will be so many Green Planeswalkers then. That means that Green has (depending on what you splash) {Garruk, Caller of Beasts}, {Domri Rade}, {Vraska the Unseen}, Kiora TBA {U}{G}, and apparently Ajani being {G}{W}. This means that you have every possible 2 colour green pw!!
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 15, 2013, 07:15:56 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
Kiora will be in this set and u/g and ajani will be w/g.
I don't get why there will be so many Green Planeswalkers then. That means that Green has (depending on what you splash) {Garruk, Caller of Beasts}, {Domri Rade}, {Vraska the Unseen}, Kiora TBA {U}{G}, and apparently Ajani being {G}{W}. This means that you have every possible 2 colour green pw!!
Neither Kiora Atua or a {W}{G} Ajani are confirmed, they are just, as the title suggests, Baseless Speculation.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we fill it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R}
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text)
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R}
{B}{G}
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Pharika, God of Poison ({B}{G}?) source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
Yeah! It got stickied!
I was thinking they may actually input some usable rare and even mythic equipment, pun intended.
The reason I think ajani wil be g/w is:
Elspeth wrote the note to ajani. She never intended for it to reach ajani.
I think in the timeline of how it is. R/w is when he was young, goldmane was his oldest and caller of pride was in middle. I think he'll be in the middle of r/w and caller of pride. Thinking of what his true spark is supposed to be, the reason he got his spark. Or when he's older than goldmane. All wise and crap.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text)
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R}
{B}{G}
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Pharika, God of Poison ({B}{G}?) source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{U}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Mogis ({R} and ? rumored to be {R}{B}) source: {Fanatic of Mogis}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
*Gasps* MAYBE ZENDIKAR SUNK UNDERWATER!
I dunno, I was just... What.
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
Even though it was a Greek myth they don't have to put it in there
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 08:43:26 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
Even though it was a Greek myth they don't have to put it in there
i mentioned it because it would fit with merfolk. Which you had mentioned
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 08:43:26 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
Even though it was a Greek myth they don't have to put it in there
i mentioned it because it would fit with merfolk. Which you had mentioned
Yea I know. But I was just thinking that but whatevs lol :P
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
Or maybe Kimora won't be in this set and will be in the next block. Return to some Merfolk place!!!
atlantas was a Greek myth
There are Atlantis-like myths all over the faf...
So I finally got around to reading some of the articles on Daily MTG and read this one just then: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/265
Now I'm mainly talking about the top half there where he goes into the concept of the Heros building up after beating their various trials. Got me to thinking a possible revamp of the levelling up, but it has only been a couple years since Level Up was around. This lead me further to maybe an ability for creatures that triggers once they kill/exile another creature (maybe specifically one with Monstorous).
Do you get what I mean and any thoughts on that, just for discussion sake? It's just that MaRo mentioned Heroes building up in all three parts of that article, but articulated a bit better in the above one, Part III...
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
So I finally got around to reading some of the articles on Daily MTG and read this one just then: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/265
Now I'm mainly talking about the top half there where he goes into the concept of the Heros building up after beating their various trials. Got me to thinking a possible revamp of the levelling up, but it has only been a couple years since Level Up was around. This lead me further to maybe an ability for creatures that triggers once they kill/exile another creature (maybe specifically one with Monstorous).
Do you get what I mean and any thoughts on that, just for discussion sake? It's just that MaRo mentioned Heroes building up in all three parts of that article, but articulated a bit better in the above one, Part III...
Really good connection, I didn't even think about how similar it was to level up. Your mechanic (level up based on killing) is a good idea and I can see it in the near future.
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
The reason I think ajani wil be g/w is:
Elspeth wrote the note to ajani. She never intended for it to reach ajani.
I think in the timeline of how it is. R/w is when he was young, goldmane was his oldest and caller of pride was in middle. I think he'll be in the middle of r/w and caller of pride. Thinking of what his true spark is supposed to be, the reason he got his spark. Or when he's older than goldmane. All wise and crap.
i think caller of the pride is older than goldmane. Why does caller have a sacr and goldmane doesn't?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 06:52:44 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
So I finally got around to reading some of the articles on Daily MTG and read this one just then: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/265
Now I'm mainly talking about the top half there where he goes into the concept of the Heros building up after beating their various trials. Got me to thinking a possible revamp of the levelling up, but it has only been a couple years since Level Up was around. This lead me further to maybe an ability for creatures that triggers once they kill/exile another creature (maybe specifically one with Monstorous).
Do you get what I mean and any thoughts on that, just for discussion sake? It's just that MaRo mentioned Heroes building up in all three parts of that article, but articulated a bit better in the above one, Part III...
Really good connection, I didn't even think about how similar it was to level up. Your mechanic (level up based on killing) is a good idea and I can see it in the near future.
That's actually a really cool mechanic! Slap on {Bow of Nylea} for deathtouch and a {Boros Charm} for indestructible and maybe something like {Enlarge} so they have to block!!!
Making it require a monstrous creature would be too parasitic.
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 17, 2013, 07:55:41 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 15, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
The reason I think ajani wil be g/w is:
Elspeth wrote the note to ajani. She never intended for it to reach ajani.
I think in the timeline of how it is. R/w is when he was young, goldmane was his oldest and caller of pride was in middle. I think he'll be in the middle of r/w and caller of pride. Thinking of what his true spark is supposed to be, the reason he got his spark. Or when he's older than goldmane. All wise and crap.
i think caller of the pride is older than goldmane. Why does caller have a sacr and goldmane doesn't?
Makeup.
{ajani, caller of the pride}
That looks like a real animated scar to me
He is a time traveler. Well if I'm wrong then it's switched..
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 17, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
He is a time traveler. Well if I'm wrong then it's switched..
isnt time magic in blue not white? And he didn't time travel. He traveled to another shard of alara
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 17, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on September 17, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
He is a time traveler. Well if I'm wrong then it's switched..
isnt time magic in blue not white? And he didn't time travel. He traveled to another shard of alara
I know I was kidding lol.
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
{Bruna, Light of Albaster}!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
{Bruna, Light of Albaster}!
i wonder if you could create an infinite combo with that card...hmmmm
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 17, 2013, 10:26:03 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
{Bruna, Light of Albaster}!
i wonder if you could create an infinite combo with that card...hmmmm
All of the trial cards could be used repeatedly, that'd be cool
Quote from: Vyse on September 18, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 17, 2013, 10:26:03 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
{Bruna, Light of Albaster}!
i wonder if you could create an infinite combo with that card...hmmmm
All of the trial cards could be used repeatedly, that'd be cool
Have all 5 ordeals trigger on each of your turns? I like it.
Quote from: S717 on September 18, 2013, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Vyse on September 18, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 17, 2013, 10:26:03 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
If an equipment or enchantment in this set or the next gives a creature Heroic (which I don't there would be, but...) the implications for {Zur the Enchanter} would be horrendous...
{Bruna, Light of Albaster}!
i wonder if you could create an infinite combo with that card...hmmmm
All of the trial cards could be used repeatedly, that'd be cool
Have all 5 ordeals trigger on each of your turns? I like it.
The Ordeals+{Aurelia, the Warleader} and {Medomia the Ageless}! You could attack 4 times in a row and trigger the ordeals a lot!
Not to spoil the fun, but Bruna and the ordeals don't work together quite that well. Won't go into details since this isn't the rules board, but basically, you can trigger the ordeals only every second time she attacks.
Quote from: MementoMori on September 19, 2013, 12:03:41 AM
Not to spoil the fun, but Bruna and the ordeals don't work together quite that well. Won't go into details since this isn't the rules board, but basically, you can trigger the ordeals only every second time she attacks.
It works, trust me, I worked it all out, unless I made an error in remembering the rules
Don't the ordeals fall off? Or are you talking about the boost they give you?
The Ordeals and Bruna both trigger on attack. That trigger is checked once per combat. You won't be able to attack with her, put the Auras on her, and then have the Auras trigger.
If you block and put the Auras on then, they'll be able to trigger when she next attacks.
It works perfectly if the ordeals are already on her when she attacks, and yes birdbrain they do, but when all the abilities trigger simultaneously you get to decide how they go on the stack, putting bruna's ability first means it will resolve last, bringing back the ordeals you just sacrificed, and to expand on my earlier combo revelation, imagine how nasty this could get if you had 4 of each ordeal
Thinking back to the Level Up system as well as the whole "Heroic" mechanic
What if they recreated level up with like. Either the cards renown as a hero or some sort of way to give it devotion to a particular god which would give that card abilities based on the god.
Pay {X} + Tap: to give this creature faith in (god name)
"If this creature has (however much faith to) (god name) they gain (ability/mechanic here)"
That's my idea on it.
Feels like monstrosity.
Quote from: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
... a possible revamp of the levelling up, but it has only been a couple years since Level Up was around. This lead me further to maybe an ability for creatures that triggers once they kill/exile another creature (maybe specifically one with Monstorous).
Im still going with this. Yes it is Theros specific, but maybe broaden it to creatures with +1/+1 counters. Makes sense flavour wise for heroes to do this.
But I see what you're saying, like how the Gods 'championed' mortals to do a task they couldn't be bothered to do.
Edit: a pity Champion is already a thing.
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Wrong thread ... :S
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Yes but what does a 4/4 do? 90% of the time he is easily blocked and even if he gets through, its not hard to come back from losing four. IMO the best card in the set is {Phalanx Leader}. I can't tell you how many games I ended in the prerelease because I had an army of 4/4s or 5/5s (yes I can, the answer is 9, I won 4 rounds and lost in the finals 2-1). The best part about him though is leaving mana untapped. It scares the s**t out of your opponent because they think "if I block he is going to pump stuff up and I lose my creatures". He's unpredictable, effective, low cost, board changing and Heroic is WAY undervalued.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Yes but what does a 4/4 do? 90% of the time he is easily blocked and even if he gets through, its not hard to come back from losing four. IMO the best card in the set is {Phalanx Leader}. I can't tell you how many games I ended in the prerelease because I had an army of 4/4s or 5/5s (yes I can, the answer is 9, I won 4 rounds and lost in the finals 2-1). The best part about him though is leaving mana untapped. It scares the s**t out of your opponent because they think "if I block he is going to pump stuff up and I lose my creatures". He's unpredictable, effective, low cost, board changing and Heroic is WAY undervalued.
Fine block my 4/4 it's indestructible and Hexproof and usually a 4/4 can get rid of a pesky blocker etc.
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Yes but what does a 4/4 do? 90% of the time he is easily blocked and even if he gets through, its not hard to come back from losing four. IMO the best card in the set is {Phalanx Leader}. I can't tell you how many games I ended in the prerelease because I had an army of 4/4s or 5/5s (yes I can, the answer is 9, I won 4 rounds and lost in the finals 2-1). The best part about him though is leaving mana untapped. It scares the s**t out of your opponent because they think "if I block he is going to pump stuff up and I lose my creatures". He's unpredictable, effective, low cost, board changing and Heroic is WAY undervalued.
Fine block my 4/4 it's indestructible and Hexproof and usually a 4/4 can get rid of a pesky blocker etc.
Not when I pump up my {Phalanx Leader} and make everything bigger!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Yes but what does a 4/4 do? 90% of the time he is easily blocked and even if he gets through, its not hard to come back from losing four. IMO the best card in the set is {Phalanx Leader}. I can't tell you how many games I ended in the prerelease because I had an army of 4/4s or 5/5s (yes I can, the answer is 9, I won 4 rounds and lost in the finals 2-1). The best part about him though is leaving mana untapped. It scares the s**t out of your opponent because they think "if I block he is going to pump stuff up and I lose my creatures". He's unpredictable, effective, low cost, board changing and Heroic is WAY undervalued.
Fine block my 4/4 it's indestructible and Hexproof and usually a 4/4 can get rid of a pesky blocker etc.
Not when I pump up my {Phalanx Leader} and make everything bigger!
Doom blade, shock, {Ratchet Bomb} any real removal destroys the Phalanx
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
Best card in the set?
My vote is {Fleecemane Lion} starts as a 2 mana 3/3 which is great then POW pay 5 make him indestructible AND Hexproof!! (Also a +1/+1 counter on it)
Yes but what does a 4/4 do? 90% of the time he is easily blocked and even if he gets through, its not hard to come back from losing four. IMO the best card in the set is {Phalanx Leader}. I can't tell you how many games I ended in the prerelease because I had an army of 4/4s or 5/5s (yes I can, the answer is 9, I won 4 rounds and lost in the finals 2-1). The best part about him though is leaving mana untapped. It scares the s**t out of your opponent because they think "if I block he is going to pump stuff up and I lose my creatures". He's unpredictable, effective, low cost, board changing and Heroic is WAY undervalued.
Fine block my 4/4 it's indestructible and Hexproof and usually a 4/4 can get rid of a pesky blocker etc.
Not when I pump up my {Phalanx Leader} and make everything bigger!
Doom blade, shock, {Ratchet Bomb} any real removal destroys the Phalanx
{Doom Blade} and {Ratchet Bomb} take out {Fleecemane Lion} before it is Monstrous too. But the difference is, if I take out Fleecemance Lion you are left with nothing where as if you take out {Phalanx Leader} I still have an army of 4/4s or 5/5s.
True but still I'm saying its very easy for it to be removed plus Fleecemane is a 3/3 for 2 Phalanx is a 1/1 for 2 both have good abilities but I still say Fleecemane wins
{Thoughtseize} for favorite/best
Also, shoutout to the boar creature token for bein so darn cute
Army of monsters mister {Phalanx Leader}?
{Merciless Eviction} :D
Quote from: Steerpike on September 23, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
{Thoughtseize} for favorite/best
Also, shoutout to the boar creature token for bein so darn cute
Daaaat boar
In the next set I hope dack fayden or the mermaid lady from the vidja game is a w/u plainswalker
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
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What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Phenax ({B} and ? referenced in {Disciple of Phenax})
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{W}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Through process of elimination I am saying Phenax is {U}{B}, Karametra is {W}{G} and Ephara is {W}{U}. If anyone disagrees feel free to say something but I am relatively sure.
Thought I'd repost this...
I'm feelin' a brand new Ajani, or a reprint of Vengeant... Maybe a {G}{W} one...
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 24, 2013, 08:22:15 AM
I'm feelin' a brand new Ajani, or a reprint of Vengeant... Maybe a {G}{W} one...
ajani's home plane is Naya. So it's possible
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 24, 2013, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 24, 2013, 08:22:15 AM
I'm feelin' a brand new Ajani, or a reprint of Vengeant... Maybe a {G}{W} one...
ajani's home plane is Naya. So it's possible
I hope so, if we don't get one my Selesnya friend is going to kill somebody.
{R}{G} Ajani is also possible. Because we don't have enough walkers in that pair yet.
Quote from: MementoMori on September 24, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
{R}{G} Ajani is also possible. Because we don't have enough walkers in that pair yet.
Do we really have any? Certainly not enough.
/sarcasm off
Anyone else think its counter productive for wizards to go from strong multi color decks in rtr block to promoting single color with theros.
But they are going to print 2 color gods to match up with the guilds of ravnica.
I just don't get it. And this is why I'm sticking to modern and legacy.
Isnt there supposed to be a {U} walker, some kind of theif?
Quote from: Leevai420 on September 24, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
Anyone else think its counter productive for wizards to go from strong multi color decks in rtr block to promoting single color with theros.
But they are going to print 2 color gods to match up with the guilds of ravnica.
I just don't get it. And this is why I'm sticking to modern and legacy.
People didn't like the Lorwyn -> Shards of Alara. "Too much multicolor" some said. They're trying something new.
I haven't read all the pages on the thread, but I was struck by the idea of having Titans for mythics to counter the gods running around. That'd be cool and flavorful
Well the story has to go with Xenagos becoming a god and ajani coming to help elspeth..
Aimlessly keeping my fingers crossed for an appearance of Kratos, God Slayer!
Quote from: Spikepit on September 25, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
Aimlessly keeping my fingers crossed for an appearance of Kratos, God Slayer!
That would be EPIC
Quote from: Spikepit on September 25, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
Aimlessly keeping my fingers crossed for an appearance of Kratos, God Slayer!
Monstrosity 2{R}{R}{W}{W} : when Kratos, god slayer becomes monstrous exile target god and Kratos gains all activated abilities of gods exiled this way.
Quote from: Leevai420 on September 25, 2013, 12:03:14 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 25, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
Aimlessly keeping my fingers crossed for an appearance of Kratos, God Slayer!
Monstrosity 2{R}{R}{W}{W} : when Kratos, god slayer becomes monstrous exile target god and Kratos gains all activated abilities of gods exiled this way.
Totally YEEES!!!
I do think he needs {B} somehow. Like {B}{B} gains Deathtouch or {B} Regenerate.
I could see him with heroic too, though, considering all the things he gets in the games.
But I acknowledge this is off topic.
I picke red and white because those are the colors of Sparta in theros.
And monstrous ability is in flavor with te first god of war when he becomes god sized to fight Ares, and when he kills a god in the 3rd game he gets their special abilities.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:23:09 PM
I think something practically OPPOSITE of heroic- whenever an opponent targets this creature, that player or creatures that player controls stuff. Like
Whenever a opponent casts a spell that targets this creature, that player loses 3 life.
And they would call it villainy
Quote from: Alexzang, etherium envoy on September 27, 2013, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:23:09 PM
I think something practically OPPOSITE of heroic- whenever an opponent targets this creature, that player or creatures that player controls stuff. Like
Whenever a opponent casts a spell that targets this creature, that player loses 3 life.
And they would call it villainy
Love the username, 'cuz Esoer. And that is a good idea! Wish I thought of that ability!
{Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} is going to become a minor god for {B}{U} I either this part of the block or the last part! There is a piece of artwork where Ajani and elspeth are on his had!
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
{Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} is going to become a minor god for {B}{U} I either this part of the block or the last part! There is a piece of artwork where Ajani and elspeth are on his had!
I thought ZENAGOS became a god!
Isn't {Xenagos, the Reveler} trying to steel {Heliod, God of the Sun}'s power?
Idk about your villainy thing I think that since we only saw 2 Black Heroic cards that we will see a bizzaro heroic mechanic like say villainy but I disagree with your whenever opponents cast a spell that targets it. I'm thinking:
1. Something like {Spellskite} like pay {2} and then villainy triggers.
OR
2. Just simply more Black heroics that destroy/force opponent to sac a creature (like {Agent of the Fates}, maybe one like when you cast a spell that targets it you may pay 1 life if you do, draw a card
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 30, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
{Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} is going to become a minor god for {B}{U} I either this part of the block or the last part! There is a piece of artwork where Ajani and elspeth are on his had!
I thought ZENAGOS became a god!
Yeah Is {Xenagos, the Reveler} whole will become the god! Sorry got them confused lol
Quote from: Teysa karlov on October 01, 2013, 08:31:36 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 30, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
{Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} is going to become a minor god for {B}{U} I either this part of the block or the last part! There is a piece of artwork where Ajani and elspeth are on his had!
I thought ZENAGOS became a god!
Yeah Is {Xenagos, the Reveler} whole will become the god! Sorry got them confused lol
Okay.
I hope the {U}{B} god will be a nod toward Morpheus.
I'm hoping for a completely new mono black planeswalker!
Quote from: Teysa karlov on October 03, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
I'm hoping for a completely new mono black planeswalker!
This!
U/W plainswalker ftw!
Pretty sure Xenagos is going to be the Gruul God in the next two sets. Here is the last line of Xenagos' profile on the Wizards site:
"he is now working on a plan that would elevate him from mortal to god."
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 03, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Pretty sure Xenagos is going to be the Gruul God in the next two sets. Here is the last line of Xenagos' profile on the Wizards site:
"he is now working on a plan that would elevate him from mortal to god."
the thing is. Even if that is true, there probably is a {R}{G} god anyway, right now. I'm guessing he'll either absorb that gods essence, or enslave the five gods introduced in theros
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 03, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 03, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Pretty sure Xenagos is going to be the Gruul God in the next two sets. Here is the last line of Xenagos' profile on the Wizards site:
"he is now working on a plan that would elevate him from mortal to god."
the thing is. Even if that is true, there probably is a {R}{G} god anyway, right now. I'm guessing he'll either absorb that gods essence, or enslave the five gods introduced in theros
If Xenagos slaves the gods maybe elspeth travels to nyx to free them??
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 03, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 03, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 03, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Pretty sure Xenagos is going to be the Gruul God in the next two sets. Here is the last line of Xenagos' profile on the Wizards site:
"he is now working on a plan that would elevate him from mortal to god."
the thing is. Even if that is true, there probably is a {R}{G} god anyway, right now. I'm guessing he'll either absorb that gods essence, or enslave the five gods introduced in theros
If Xenagos slaves the gods maybe elspeth travels to nyx to free them??
isn't the third set called "journey to Nyx"?
Exactly!
Am i the only one who wants {kiora atou} as a {U} or {U} {G} planeswalker
Quote from: JustAWalrus on October 03, 2013, 06:54:16 PM
Am i the only one who wants {kiora atou} as a {U} or {U} {G} planeswalker
Kiora Atua is a {U}{G} Planeswalker, she is in one of the Duels of the Planeswalkers.
Well the only colors the plainswalkers haven't been are {G}{W} and {U}{G}...all the wedge colors and 5 color...I think it's about time it happens...don't y'all?
I would hope green blue then because green white doesn't really that toooo
Isn't the speculation that ajani will be w/g in this block? So maybe the other planeswalker will be u/g. I'm guessing u/g in born of the gods and ajani in nyx
Quote from: Avnger345 on October 04, 2013, 06:48:22 AM
Isn't the speculation that ajani will be w/g in this block? So maybe the other planeswalker will be u/g. I'm guessing u/g in born of the gods and ajani in nyx
Yeah, most people are assuming that Ajani will be {W}{G}. The reason is people don't think that we would have two {W} planeswalkers and Ajani was only {W}{R} when he was pissed off and has sense calmed down.
Quote from: Avnger345 on October 04, 2013, 06:48:22 AM
Isn't the speculation that ajani will be w/g in this block? So maybe the other planeswalker will be {W}{G}. I'm guessing {B}{G} in born of the gods and ajani in nyx
If this happens (and full chances it will), I'm renaming the block Greenos.
I sure hope they make cards that have to do with the constilations. I have an idea of how they could do that
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 06, 2013, 12:55:41 PM
I sure hope they make cards that have to do with the constilations. I have an idea of how they could do that
So enlighten us on your idea
Since it is "Born of the Gods" does this mean we might see Demigod characters similar to Perseus, Hercules, Pericles, Achilles? Like children of gods?
Quote from: Destore117 on October 06, 2013, 03:39:13 PM
Since it is "Born of the Gods" does this mean we might see Demigod characters similar to Perseus, Hercules, Pericles, Achilles? Like children of gods?
maybe the two color gods will be demigods
Yeah but Ashiok is like. Isn't that thing kinda like Morpheus god of dreams? And it's a duel color. Although Xenagos seems demigod-like
Off-topic, but just wanted to let everyone know that I just pulled a Heliod and an Erebos in the same pack. Oh, and the Erebos was foil. :))))))
Quote from: smalone16 on October 08, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
Off-topic, but just wanted to let everyone know that I just pulled a Heliod and an Erebos in the same pack. Oh, and the Erebos was foil. :))))))
Could you pull an Ashiok too...
Quote from: smalone16 on October 08, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
Off-topic, but just wanted to let everyone know that I just pulled a Heliod and an Erebos in the same pack. Oh, and the Erebos was foil. :))))))
That's great, I wish I got good pulls...Oh, wait, I'm still waiting for the fat pack of Theros that I should have gotten like 2 and a half weeks ago. Not happy with my LGS right now...
Quote from: Destore117 on October 08, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
Could you pull an Ashiok too...
I actually did pull one from the same box lol. 1 booster box: 8 mythics (1 foil, 2 Ashiok)
Quote from: smalone16 on October 09, 2013, 06:12:34 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on October 08, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
Could you pull an Ashiok too...
I actually did pull one from the same box lol. 1 booster box: 8 mythics (1 foil, 2 Ashiok)
-Bruce Campbell voice- well hello mister fancy pants!
I heard today from a mate of mine that follows MtG like a religion that all possible bi-colour combinations would be god cards in the next two sets. I'd like to see how that pans out.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on October 10, 2013, 05:33:02 AM
I heard today from a mate of mine that follows MtG like a religion that all possible bi-colour combinations would be god cards in the next two sets. I'd like to see how that pans out.
It's already confirmed that we will have 5 two color gods in Born of the Gods and 5 two color gods in Journey to Nyx
Do we know what they are? I only have Heliod in action at the moment in my Mono-White EDH, while I have one finished RWB deck, a RB, GB and unfinished WB, and just started building a GWR EDH deck. I'd love to see if they'd fit any of those deck styles.
Athreos{W}{R} Kruphix {G}{U} Xenagos {R}{G} are the ones I know, there are more though.
Quote from: Taysby on October 10, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
xenagos will be a walker and god?
The 2nd (I think) is him turning into a god and Elspeth/Ajani stopping him.
How about no..all of the nos..to {R}
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Phenax ({B} and ? referenced in {Disciple of Phenax})
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{W}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Through process of elimination I am saying Phenax is {U}{B}, Karametra is {W}{G} and Ephara is {W}{U}. If anyone disagrees feel free to say something but I am relatively sure.
Thought I'd repost this...
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
i want to see the {U}{G} mana ramp merfolk walker as a card
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 13, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
i want to see the {U}{G} mana ramp merfolk walker as a card
Kiora Atua would be great! She would go perfectly with a return to Kamigawa too...(HINT HINT, MARO!)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
The amount he does that, I'm more likely to believe he's acting dumb as a default.
If they do bring him in in this set though, there'll be two {R}{G} Planeswalkers and two {U}{R}. They're pushing creature ramp and spell slinging for something!
Quote from: Spikepit on October 13, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
The amount he does that, I'm more likely to believe he's acting dumb as a default.
If they do bring him in in this set though, there'll be two {R}{G} Planeswalkers and two {U}{R}. They're pushing creature ramp and spell slinging for something!
As a theif, because Dack Fayden is the best theif in the multiverse they could push him {B}{U} but then there would be two {U}{B} planeswalkers in the same set. Possibly Grixis or Rakdos (especially if he is really pissed off about something)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 13, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
The amount he does that, I'm more likely to believe he's acting dumb as a default.
If they do bring him in in this set though, there'll be two {R}{G} Planeswalkers and two {U}{R}. They're pushing creature ramp and spell slinging for something!
As a theif, because Dack Fayden is the best theif in the multiverse they could push him {B}{U} but then there would be two {U}{B} planeswalkers in the same set. Possibly Grixis or Rakdos (especially if he is really pissed off about something)
Right on man! I've been thinking he's more Dimir too! He's a theif, the best at deceit in the multiverse!
Quote from: Spikepit on October 13, 2013, 07:00:07 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 13, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 13, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
The amount he does that, I'm more likely to believe he's acting dumb as a default.
If they do bring him in in this set though, there'll be two {R}{G} Planeswalkers and two {U}{R}. They're pushing creature ramp and spell slinging for something!
As a theif, because Dack Fayden is the best theif in the multiverse they could push him {B}{U} but then there would be two {U}{B} planeswalkers in the same set. Possibly Grixis or Rakdos (especially if he is really pissed off about something)
Right on man! I've been thinking he's more Dimir too! He's a theif, the best at deceit in the multiverse!
Yeah, I never understood why he was {U}{R}
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Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on October 13, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Idk if this has been cleared yet, but dack fayden is guaranteed as a planeswalker in theros. Assuming the picture spoiler is true, ajani will be the other planeswalker. I think dack will be red, blue, or blue/red
I don't know, the way MaRo has been acting on Blogatog they don't yet have plans to make Dack Fayden into a card. Of course he might just be acting dumb.
The amount he does that, I'm more likely to believe he's acting dumb as a default.
If they do bring him in in this set though, there'll be two {R}{G} Planeswalkers and two {U}{R}. They're pushing creature ramp and spell slinging for something!
As a theif, because Dack Fayden is the best theif in the multiverse they could push him {B}{U} but then there would be two {U}{B} planeswalkers in the same set. Possibly Grixis or Rakdos (especially if he is really pissed off about something)
Right on man! I've been thinking he's more Dimir too! He's a theif, the best at deceit in the multiverse!
Yeah, I never understood why he was {U}{R}
Izzet fanboys. He's clearly dimir or straight blue, if anything.
They could make 2 {U}{B} and then possibly add more walkers of the other colors to compensate?
Could they possibly make 5 walkers
One to act as a champion of each god
Got this idea from {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}
So either we'd see new walkers (unlikely) or wed get
Jace, Sea's champion
Garruk, The Wild's Champion
Chandra, Flame's Champion
Lilianna, Death's Champion
This is also unlikely due to reprints of walkers in m14 why reprint and then make new ones too? but a possibility all the same!
Quote from: Destore117 on October 14, 2013, 02:29:18 AM
Could they possibly make 5 walkers
One to act as a champion of each god
Got this idea from {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}
So either we'd see new walkers (unlikely) or wed get
Jace, Sea's champion
Garruk, The Wild's Champion
Chandra, Flame's Champion
Lilianna, Death's Champion
This is also unlikely due to reprints of walkers in m14 why reprint and then make new ones too? but a possibility all the same!
Especially with Chandra and garruk getting new forms in m14. That would create an influx of planeswalkers... Can you imagine 3 different jaces in standard at one time?
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 14, 2013, 02:41:41 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on October 14, 2013, 02:29:18 AM
Could they possibly make 5 walkers
One to act as a champion of each god
Got this idea from {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}
So either we'd see new walkers (unlikely) or wed get
Jace, Sea's champion
Garruk, The Wild's Champion
Chandra, Flame's Champion
Lilianna, Death's Champion
This is also unlikely due to reprints of walkers in m14 why reprint and then make new ones too? but a possibility all the same!
Especially with Chandra and garruk getting new forms in m14. That would create an influx of planeswalkers... Can you imagine 3 different jaces in standard at one time?
I understand it is highly unlikely but just throwing out some ideas I've come up with
Oh man, I hope not! I'm not trying to squash your idea (it would be quite a cool concept) but please, Wizards of the Coast if you're reading, give us new characters/Planeswalkers in card form, not the same old ones over and over again! Please!!! The multiverse is suppose to be infinite, so there can't be just seven or so worth talking about! New ones, or at least ones you've hinted at for years, not an 8th Garruk, 14th Lili or 27th Jace!
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Right? I want a mono blue planeswalker merfolk for my modern deck (thassa is the mascot)
Quote from: Spikepit on October 14, 2013, 05:24:10 AM
Oh man, I hope not! I'm not trying to squash your idea (it would be quite a cool concept) but please, Wizards of the Coast if you're reading, give us new characters/Planeswalkers in card form, not the same old ones over and over again! Please!!! The multiverse is suppose to be infinite, so there can't be just seven or so worth talking about! New ones, or at least ones you've hinted at for years, not an 8th Garruk, 14th Lili or 27th Jace!
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You scared me there but there are only 4 Garruk ({Garruk Wildspeaker}, {Garruk, Primal Hunter}, {Garruk Relentless}, and {Garruk, Caller of Beasts}), 3 Lilianas ({Liliana Vess}, {Liliana of the Veil}, {Liliana of the Dark Realms}) and 4 Jaces ({Jace Beleren}, {Jace the Mind Sculptor}, {Jace, Memory Adept}, {Jace, Architect of Thought}). I do get your point though, some new characters would be nice.
http://m.dictionary.com/definition/hyperbole
Besides, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} equals out the remaining 24 I mentioned. 😉
Quote from: Spikepit on October 14, 2013, 09:39:48 AM
http://m.dictionary.com/definition/hyperbole
Besides, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} equals out the remaining 24 I mentioned. 😉
I know what a hyperbole is and I said I got your point.
Cool cool, just assumed from having to correct me. All good. 😁
Is there a confirmed release date for BoTG?
Quote from: Destore117 on October 14, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
Is there a confirmed release date for BoTG?
It'll be the date Gatecrash released which I believe is feb 1. But this is my guess :P
Is the symbol on the end for enchantment creatures?
The symbols in order are
Creature, instant, sorcery, enchantment, artifact, land, planeswalker, ?
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bng/
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 18, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Is the symbol on the end for enchantment creatures?
The symbols in order are
Creature, instant, sorcery, enchantment, artifact, land, planeswalker, ?
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bng/
Either that or Gods
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 18, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Is the symbol on the end for enchantment creatures?
The symbols in order are
Creature, instant, sorcery, enchantment, artifact, land, planeswalker, ?
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bng/
Either that or Gods
It for both in the Theros teaser time frame.
Quote from: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 18, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Is the symbol on the end for enchantment creatures?
The symbols in order are
Creature, instant, sorcery, enchantment, artifact, land, planeswalker, ?
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bng/
Either that or Gods
It for both in the Theros teaser time frame.
Which makes sense bc Gods are Enchantment creatures lol
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 18, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Is the symbol on the end for enchantment creatures?
The symbols in order are
Creature, instant, sorcery, enchantment, artifact, land, planeswalker, ?
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bng/
Either that or Gods
It for both in the Theros teaser time frame.
Which makes sense bc Gods are Enchantment creatures lol
It's gods because if you look at Theros and click it you get gods
Quote from: Taysby on October 19, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
When do spoilers start?
The set releases February 7, 2014 so I would guess the majority of spoiler season will be during January but there may be a few leaked between now and then and its possible we could see some spoilers in December.
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Quote from: Taysby on October 19, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
When do spoilers start?
The set releases February 7, 2014 so I would guess the majority of spoiler season will be during January but there may be a few leaked between now and then and its possible we could see some spoilers in December.
its also possible spoilers could see you! :P
Do you think, considering the archers without reach in Theros, think there'll be an "Archers gain Reach and +?/+?" with Nylea being an archer herself and all?
I want to see a defender lord and some defender, for lack of a better word, tribal decks. We have {Axebane Guardian} and {Doorkeeper}...also it would provide a use for {Clear a Path}...
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 30, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
I want to see a defender lord and some defender, for lack of a better word, tribal decks. We have {Axebane Guardian} and {Doorkeeper}...also it would provide a use for {Clear a Path}...
i thought axe and door were tribal defenders
Quote from: Birdbrain on October 31, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 30, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
I want to see a defender lord and some defender, for lack of a better word, tribal decks. We have {Axebane Guardian} and {Doorkeeper}...also it would provide a use for {Clear a Path}...
i thought axe and door were tribal defenders
They are, in a way. I said "for lack of a better word, tribal decks" because they technically aren't tribes like elves, goblins, ect. but the deck would have a tribal feel to it. Also the two aren't enough to excuse making a defender deck, I would need some more defender love like something that deals damage equal to the number of defenders.
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Quote from: Birdbrain on October 31, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 30, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
I want to see a defender lord and some defender, for lack of a better word, tribal decks. We have {Axebane Guardian} and {Doorkeeper}...also it would provide a use for {Clear a Path}...
i thought axe and door were tribal defenders
They are, in a way. I said "for lack of a better word, tribal decks" because they technically aren't tribes like elves, goblins, ect. but the deck would have a tribal feel to it. Also the two aren't enough to excuse making a defender deck, I would need some more defender love like something that deals damage equal to the number of defenders.
sounds red. Maybe a RUG defender deck?
Preorders for the set are already starting...
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 03, 2013, 10:07:01 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 03, 2013, 01:15:54 AM
Preorders for the set are already starting...
Have we even got spoilers?
No, but Starcitygames.com is already selling sealed product.
Spoilers start in January.
i saw this from looking up mtg speculation and this looks like a fun page. So i been wondering, Xenagos wants to become immortal and Ajani and Elspeth look to be banding together to stop him but if this all happens in BoTG, what do you think is left for Journey into Nyx or vice versa?
I think it might be more of a rallying and rising power in Born of the Gods with the actual show down in Journey Into Nyx. I'd say, just from reading way into the title of the set and my own speculation, that Xenagos has ascended to the god like position he wanted and Ajani and Elspeth have to get up there to have at him. Heliod, Thasa, Erobos etc all have the starry sky wherever there is shadow on themselves, I take that as enough indication that's where they 'live', making sense to me that's where Xenagos would be in set 3.
Also, I've read two places (excluding a third on Facebook, because it's worse than Wikipedia!) that {Chaoslace} is getting a reprint. Thoughts? I call shenanigans but thought I'd ask first.
Unfortunately looking back over my history now to cite said references I can't find them. 😔
Also they've just released details of J.I.N. The symbol again is a mash up of Theros and Born of the Gods. 165 cards, one big set and 2 small.
If the reprint one lace, they should reprint them all...
I don't get it would the {Chaoslace} mess up devotion?
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 12, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
I don't get it would the {Chaoslace} mess up devotion?
No. The laces do not affect the mana symbols
So what do they do then? All I can think of is the betray your colour cards from Theros like {Dark Betrayal} {Glare of Heresy} etc.
Exactly. They change the color of the spell as its on the stack, or if it's a permanent
Which why I called shenanigans on it, because unless there's a mechanic that factors in the colour of the card also in BotG, I can't see any of the laces making much difference. It's early days yet and I did only see it twice (amongst all the other other speculations!) which I can't find the links to now anyway. 😔
Well this block does care about colours ... So who knows!
i am hoping in born of the gods to see reprints of {paradise plume} and {caged sun} but that's just me. but seeing as we are getting essentially houses of ravnica being represented in this set, is that just a continuation of ravnica or could that mix in with whatever "return" we see next august/september?
Edit: don't forget curly brackets around card names or use the book button in the top right hand corner of the text field.
Some people at my LGS were speculating on a {daybreak coronet} reprint in this set. It does seem to fit the flavor, mechanics, and theme of Theros nicely.
What's everyone else's thoughts? I'd love to see it with new art and the regular border.
Quote from: imthelolrus on November 13, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
Some people at my LGS were speculating on a {daybreak coronet} reprint in this set. It does seem to fit the flavor, mechanics, and theme of Theros nicely.
What's everyone else's thoughts? I'd love to see it with new art and the regular border.
Oh for sure! I'd see it getting a mechanic name though, i.e. <mechanic> ~ Enchant a creature already enchanted. But for yeah, for sure! It's not just your group noticing this possibility!
Omg please! My GW Hexproof would love a {Daybreak Coronet}!!!
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 13, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Omg please! My GW Hexproof would love a {Daybreak Coronet}!!!
So glad I ordered 4...I really hope they are in the next set!
Could there be something like "living enchantment " like a batter skull for enchantments?
Quote from: Vindog on November 14, 2013, 11:01:53 PM
Could there be something like "living enchantment " like a batter skull for enchantments?
Something like {Halcyon Glaze}
{Ajani's Chosen} is sort of like that.
Thing is, you can't even cast an Aura without a target, so it would have to be a regular enchantment that made a token, gained the Aura subtype and "enchant creature," then attached itself to the token. Then, if that token died, it'd have to revert back to a regular enchantment and have a way to attach to some other creature.
Sounds even harder to fit on a card and explain than bestow, and bestow's reminder text already leaves out a pretty key part of its mechanic. Also sounds like recreating equipment for no good reason.
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Quote from: Mattao19 on November 13, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Omg please! My GW Hexproof would love a {Daybreak Coronet}!!!
So glad I ordered 4...I really hope they are in the next set!
That card seems to be a mistake that will never be reprinted, despite the set it's in. Ofcourse I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem like that card should ever be in standard.
I totally agree, just wishful thinking... My {G}{W} deck would be so boss.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1366&dcmp=ilc-mtgrss
Looks like we will most likely have
1) Xenagos as a God as well as a Planeswalker
2) Ajani
I think that the next set will have Xenagos as a God, but not a planeswalker. I don't think they would print a planeswalker two sets back to back and have him as a legendary in the same set.
I think the planeswalkers will be: Ajani and (I really am hoping for) Dack Fayden. Obviously Ajani if you look at the art but the newest MTG comic has Dack Fayden on Theros and he has to avoid Ashiok.
(http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IDW-MTG-Theros-197x300.jpg)
Kiora!!!!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
I think that the next set will have Xenagos as a God, but not a planeswalker. I don't think they would print a planeswalker two sets back to back and have him as a legendary in the same set.
I think the planeswalkers will be: Ajani and (I really am hoping for) Dack Fayden. Obviously Ajani if you look at the art but the newest MTG comic has Dack Fayden on Theros and he has to avoid Ashiok.
(http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IDW-MTG-Theros-197x300.jpg)
I meant we had the planeswalker already and we will now have the god, not both in one. Am I right in that there hasn't been allusions to a Gruul colored God yet?
Quote from: reezel on November 18, 2013, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
I think that the next set will have Xenagos as a God, but not a planeswalker. I don't think they would print a planeswalker two sets back to back and have him as a legendary in the same set.
I think the planeswalkers will be: Ajani and (I really am hoping for) Dack Fayden. Obviously Ajani if you look at the art but the newest MTG comic has Dack Fayden on Theros and he has to avoid Ashiok.
(http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IDW-MTG-Theros-197x300.jpg)
I meant we had the planeswalker already and we will now have the god, not both in one. Am I right in that there hasn't been allusions to a Gruul colored God yet?
No, because there has been allusion to Xenagos being a god.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
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There we go, Ashiok is a dude. A gaunt dude, but a dude.
Quote from: Spikepit on November 18, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
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There we go, Ashiok is a dude. A gaunt dude, but a dude.
Ashiok's mouth and such looks like the main villain before demise in Skyward Sword
Quote from: Destore117 on November 19, 2013, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on November 18, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
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There we go, Ashiok is a dude. A gaunt dude, but a dude.
Ashiok's mouth and such looks like the main villain before demise in Skyward Sword
O.O Ashiok is Girahim!!!!!
Oh god. That means...Nicol Bolas is Demise!!! ;-;
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There we go, Ashiok is a dude. A gaunt dude, but a dude.
Ashiok's mouth and such looks like the main villain before demise in Skyward Sword
O.O Ashiok is Girahim!!!!!
Ashiok is {Chainer, Dementia Master} after his spark ignited! Too close to abilities, costume... He doesn't have to fight anymore... Just let the nightmares fuel him now.
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There we go, Ashiok is a dude. A gaunt dude, but a dude.
Ashiok's mouth and such looks like the main villain before demise in Skyward Sword
O.O Ashiok is Girahim!!!!!
Ashiok is {Chainer, Dementia Master} after his spark ignited! Too close to abilities, costume... He doesn't have to fight anymore... Just let the nightmares fuel him now.
NO! Ashiok must be a girl! To paraphrase Anchorman:
Guess what, I do. I know that one day
Ashiok and I are gonna to get married on top of a mountain, and there's going to be flutes playing and trombones and flowers and garlands of fresh herbs. And we will dance till the sun rises! And then our children will form a family band! And we will tour the countryside and you won't be invited!
You could still marry him. 😜
In certain states ;D
But then our children can't form a family band....
Ashiok is specifically genderless, guys. It is a little closed-minded to insist otherwise.
Quote from: abstractApathist on November 20, 2013, 03:21:07 PM
Ashiok is specifically genderless, guys. It is a little closed-minded to insist otherwise.
Nice! I like this line of thought. Is Ashiok an it/them then as opposed to him/his or her/hers?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 20, 2013, 06:45:29 AM
But then our children can't form a family band....
Or wear hats.
Quote from: bravado883 on November 20, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Theros guide refers to Ashiok using he/his/him.
Mark Rosewater has said this was only because they needed to use pronouns, it has nothing to do with his gender.
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Quote from: bravado883 on November 20, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Theros guide refers to Ashiok using he/his/him.
Mark Rosewater has said this was only because they needed to use pronouns, it has nothing to do with his gender.
Exactly. They/them is probably best.
How about Enchantment Lands? Like the enchantment creatures and enchantment artifacts, but lands instead?
Because artifact lands worked out so well.
Quote from: MementoMori on November 26, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
Because artifact lands worked out so well.
But without an Enchantment affinity, these are less dangerous. Although, I believe you are right, someone would find a way to abuse them (probably me with {Ethereal Armor} and {Sphere of Safety}.)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2013, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: MementoMori on November 26, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
Because artifact lands worked out so well.
But without an Enchantment affinity, these are less dangerous. Although, I believe you are right, someone would find a way to abuse them (probably me with {Ethereal Armor} and {Sphere of Safety}.)
These lands would probably be rare, or at least uncommon.
Would be safer If it were only affinity for auras etc
Battle the horde
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1372
Has any flavor text been leaked yet? We had Niv Mizzet's equation for RtR block and I think they leaked a flavor hint to slivers for M14. I havent seen anything but battle the horde yet...
I'd like to see a return of filter lands ({Rugged Prairie}, for example).
Or maybe combine them and the scry lands.
I dunno. I just think that filter lands would be helpful inside mechanics like Devotion.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
I'd like to see a return of filter lands ({Rugged Prairie}, for example).
Or maybe combine them and the scry lands.
I dunno. I just think that filter lands would be helpful inside mechanics like Devotion.
The more {Fetid Heath}s the better.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
I'd like to see a return of filter lands ({Rugged Prairie}, for example).
Or maybe combine them and the scry lands.
I dunno. I just think that filter lands would be helpful inside mechanics like Devotion.
I would love this.
That'd be awesome! But realistically would they produce 2 rare duals in the same set?
I suspect more minotaurs.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on November 30, 2013, 12:18:23 PM
I suspect more minotaurs.
I would love to make a viable minotaur deck. Or a "sable"/ferret deck :p
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we fill it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B}
{W}{R}
{W}{G}
{U}{B}
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text)
{U}{G}
{B}{R}
{B}{G}
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Pharika, God of Poison ({B}{G}?) source: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263
Moguls is {B}{R}- {Fanatic of Mogis}/ {Mogis' Marauder}
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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G}
{U}{B} Phenax (source: referenced in {Disciple of Phenax} and named in http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/276) Thanks Birdbrain!
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{W}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Through process of elimination I am saying Karametra is {W}{G} and Ephara is {W}{U}. If anyone disagrees feel free to say something but I am relatively sure.
Thought I'd repost this...
Here is the most updated version of that.
Spoiler season has officially started: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/born-of-the-gods-spoiler.html
Three of the temples have been spoiled.
I wonder if the Temples being Ravnican-guild themed has anything to do with their names?
Temple of Plenty sounds VERY Selesnyan to me.
SPOILERS!
For those of us who prefer the visual spoilers (even though there's no art yet):
http://mythicspoiler.com/
Quote from: Taysby on December 09, 2013, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on December 09, 2013, 06:53:30 PM
For those of us who prefer the visual spoilers (even though there's no art yet):
http://mythicspoiler.com/
Can we get that put on the first post, so it doesn't turn into quote wars just to keep it in an easy to find spot?
I'll do that now.
Edit: it is done
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
Dominate it is then.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
I know! If it weren't for the chance to win more BotG packs, I don't think I'd go. 1st place at my LGS gets 24 packs.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
I know! If it weren't for the chance to win more BotG packs, I don't think I'd go. 1st place at my LGS gets 24 packs.
That's so awesome!!
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
I know! If it weren't for the chance to win more BotG packs, I don't think I'd go. 1st place at my LGS gets 24 packs.
That's so awesome!!
Yeah, but its out of like 30-50 people and we pay $25 for admission. The best I have ever done is 2nd because we always have two guys who show up and pool their cards, but the owner never stops them.
1 more card spoiled.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
I know! If it weren't for the chance to win more BotG packs, I don't think I'd go. 1st place at my LGS gets 24 packs.
That's so awesome!!
Yeah, but its out of like 30-50 people and we pay $25 for admission. The best I have ever done is 2nd because we always have two guys who show up and pool their cards, but the owner never stops them.
That doesn't sound like a sealed tournament...
Quote from: Muggywuggy on December 11, 2013, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 10, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
Okay, so this was reported on Tumblr:
Born of the Gods prerelease packs will have the usual except they have 2 BotGs packs and 3 Theros. I don't like this....
Oh, and the boxes are similar to Theros where they have names based on colors. They are:
-Destined to Lead
-Destined to Outwit
-Destined to Dominate
-Destined to Conquer
-Destined to Thrive
2 of BotGs and 3 Theros? Why?!! We're prereleasing BotGs!!! Lol oh well
I know! If it weren't for the chance to win more BotG packs, I don't think I'd go. 1st place at my LGS gets 24 packs.
That's so awesome!!
Yeah, but its out of like 30-50 people and we pay $25 for admission. The best I have ever done is 2nd because we always have two guys who show up and pool their cards, but the owner never stops them.
That doesn't sound like a sealed tournament...
No, it doesn't, but they do it anyways. At Theros I played one of them in the finals and he had 2x {Triad of Fates}, 1x {Reaper of the Wilds}, 1x {Hythonia the Cruel}, 2x {Agent of Fates}, a {Miscutter Hydra} and one of the Promos. Besides the promo, none were foil. I asked him how he got 7 non-foil rares and he just ignored me.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 01, 2013, 01:21:33 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G}
{U}{B} Phenax (source: referenced in {Disciple of Phenax} and named in http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/276) Thanks Birdbrain!
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{W}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Through process of elimination I am saying Karametra is {W}{G} and Ephara is {W}{U}. If anyone disagrees feel free to say something but I am relatively sure.
Thought I'd repost this...
Here is the most updated version of that.
Phenax is confirmed {U}{B}, thanks Birdbrain!
I think the dual temples let us know what those gods are gods of, sense phenax is the god of deciet...though he's also working with the returned. So maybe there will be some {U}{B} reanimator later in the block
Idk if its been asked but how will the new gods casting cost be? Will they be hybrid or like {G}{R}?
I think the {W}{G} god is leonion. Sense that seems to be what the leonions are from that story
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 11, 2013, 05:45:11 PM
I think the {W}{G} god is leonion. Sense that seems to be what the leonions are from that story
I think that the {W}{G} god is karametra. My evidence for this is the flavour text of {Setessan Battle-Priest} and {Karametra's acolyte}. Karametra herself might be a leonin, if that's what you were going for.
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 11, 2013, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 11, 2013, 05:45:11 PM
I think the {W}{G} god is leonion. Sense that seems to be what the leonions are from that story
I think that the {W}{G} god is karametra. My evidence for this is the flavour text of {Setessan Battle-Priest} and {Karametra's acolyte}. Karametra herself might be a leonin, if that's what you were going for.
Also the {Settesan Hawk Thinger}...
{Setessan Battle Priest} and {Setessan Griffin}. The griffin has nothing to do with Karametra though, it is part of the GW city, Setessa.
Here is the article on the cities: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/262c
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 11, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
{Setessan Battle Priest} and {Setessan Griffin}. The griffin has nothing to do with Karametra though, it is part of the GW city, Setessa.
Here is the article on the cities: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/262c
from the description, that sounds like an Amazonian society
I was going to argue about the colors. But god of orphans and widows fits {W}{G}
Karametra is the god of widows and orphans. So I'd say that's the {W}{G} god
Sounds more like {B}{G}
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Sounds more like {B}{G}
how the heck would a god with {B} in its coloring care about widows and orphans? Do you think it makes the widows and orphans so they will pray to it? No one would worship a god like that
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 12, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Sounds more like {B}{G}
how the heck would a god with {B} in its coloring care about widows and orphans? Do you think it makes the widows and orphans so they will pray to it? No one would worship a god like that
Orphans and widows all have death in their lives, just a thought.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 12, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Sounds more like {B}{G}
how the heck would a god with {B} in its coloring care about widows and orphans? Do you think it makes the widows and orphans so they will pray to it? No one would worship a god like that
Orphans and widows all have death in their lives, just a thought.
i would think a god of orphans and widows would be one that they could take refuge with, and be comforted by. I would think the mark of a god of orphans and widows would be overwhelming compassion. Wishing for everyone who takes refuge in them to both get back on there feet and find comfort in there loss
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 12, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 12, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 12, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Sounds more like {B}{G}
how the heck would a god with {B} in its coloring care about widows and orphans? Do you think it makes the widows and orphans so they will pray to it? No one would worship a god like that
Orphans and widows all have death in their lives, just a thought.
i would think a god of orphans and widows would be one that they could take refuge with, and be comforted by. I would think the mark of a god of orphans and widows would be overwhelming compassion. Wishing for everyone who takes refuge in them to both get back on there feet and find comfort in there loss
Also, Pharika was confirmed as the {B}{G} god.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 11, 2013, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 01, 2013, 01:21:33 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 23, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U}
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G} Karametra, god of orphans and widows
{U}{B} Phenax (source: referenced in {Disciple of Phenax} and named in http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/276) Thanks Birdbrain!
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G}
Other stuff:
Karametra ({G} and ? rumored to be {G}{W}) source: {Karametra's Acolyte}
Ephara ({W} and ? rumored to be {W}{U} source: {Ephara's Warden})
Xenagos (possibly {R}{G} god)
Through process of elimination I am saying Karametra is {W}{G} and Ephara is {W}{U}. If anyone disagrees feel free to say something but I am relatively sure.
Thought I'd repost this...
Here is the most updated version of that.
Phenax is confirmed {U}{B}, thanks Birdbrain!
It seems we're mostly on the same page for the gods but as for actual cards we have 5 confirmed and one unconfirmed right?
{W}{U}, {G}{B}, {R}{B}, {U}{R}, and {G}{W} scry lands.
Possible {springleaf drum}
Quote from: Taysby on December 12, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Why is the drum worth so much?
I believe modern Affinity decks are part of the reason. I can't wait to use with {Nightveil Specter} personally
Quote from: Taysby on December 12, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Why is the drum worth so much?
You can tap it to turn any guy in to {birds of paradise}, its resilient to boardwipes, and doesn't care about summoning sickness.it kinda kicks ass
And is kind good for affinity/ metalcraft in modern.
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 12:03:59 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/jhaklasi882/kj876db12s_feat279_card.jpg)
There ya go
IS THIS REAL!?!
I want that to be a real card SO BAD!!!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 25, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 12:03:59 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/jhaklasi882/kj876db12s_feat279_card.jpg)
There ya go
IS THIS REAL!?!
At least the art is not real. There is no border overlap in the image.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 25, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 12:03:59 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/jhaklasi882/kj876db12s_feat279_card.jpg)
There ya go
IS THIS REAL!?!
At least the art is not real. There is no border overlap in the image.
{Domri Rade} doesn't either 😜
This seems pretty good in EDH... {animar, soul of elements} or {momir big, mimic visionary} is my guess. Also, I love this expansion symbol! <3
I've been seeing art of Zenagos as a God. Did I miss that confirmation?
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 25, 2013, 12:15:56 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 25, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 12:03:59 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/jhaklasi882/kj876db12s_feat279_card.jpg)
There ya go
IS THIS REAL!?!
At least the art is not real. There is no border overlap in the image.
{Domri Rade} doesn't either 😜
Comes from http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/jhaklasi882/kj876db12s_feat279_card.jpg
Yep, the card is on the Wizards website
yes!!! this might make my infinite combo deck not terrible!
Wow. She's amazing! I've never considered playing Simic before ... until now.
I was about to call shenanigans and fakery on that emblem ... then I googled the confirmation.
Wow.
For 4 mana?! Granted she starts at 2 lc, but FOUR MANA?!?!?!
WOW!
She isn't as good as people think tbh, can die from so much removal in standard, not to mention {magma jet}, {lightning strike} and {hero's downfall} are still rocking standard
So, Bant control is good in standard soon?
Dies to {Hero's Downfall} SO BAD
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 25, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
Dies to {Hero's Downfall} SO BAD
Can't tell if sarcasm or skepticism
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 25, 2013, 09:17:54 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 25, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
Dies to {Hero's Downfall} SO BAD
Can't tell if sarcasm or skepticism
I think Sarcasm as EVERY planeswalker dies to {Hero's Downfall}.
in response: {dispel} or {simic charm}.
Skullcrack her
Omg I've been waiting for this for a while. I cast kiora, 3 turns later, I get to shout "Release the Kraken!"
Quote from: Taysby on December 25, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Actually see my post under the thread for kiora. Turn one, some ramp, turn two {vorel of the hull Clare} turn 3, kiora, and plus, turn 4 vorel her, then ultimate, and she is still alive. Rinse and repeat.
Doesn't work for PWs
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 25, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 25, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Actually see my post under the thread for kiora. Turn one, some ramp, turn two {vorel of the hull Clare} turn 3, kiora, and plus, turn 4 vorel her, then ultimate, and she is still alive. Rinse and repeat.
Doesn't work for PWs
Correct, Vorel reads, "{G}{U}{T}: For each counter on target artifact, creature, or land, put another of those counters on that permanent."
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 25, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 25, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Actually see my post under the thread for kiora. Turn one, some ramp, turn two {vorel of the hull Clare} turn 3, kiora, and plus, turn 4 vorel her, then ultimate, and she is still alive. Rinse and repeat.
Doesn't work for PWs
Unless youre Gideon.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 25, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 25, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Actually see my post under the thread for kiora. Turn one, some ramp, turn two {vorel of the hull Clare} turn 3, kiora, and plus, turn 4 vorel her, then ultimate, and she is still alive. Rinse and repeat.
Doesn't work for PWs
Unless youre Gideon.
Unfortunately, he's quite obviously taysby :P
If she can survive for 4 turns, it's pretty much GG
Quote from: particle on December 25, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
in response: {dispel} or {simic charm}.
Damn, Bant does have {Simic Charm} and {Azorius Charm}..
And Rev, and Verdict, and D-Sphere, and Elspeth, and Jace. Wait...
What does green really bring to the table actually?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 25, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: particle on December 25, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
in response: {dispel} or {simic charm}.
Damn, Bant does have {Simic Charm} and {Azorius Charm}..
And Rev, and Verdict, and D-Sphere, and Elspeth, and Jace. Wait...
What does green really bring to the table actually?
Ramp, searching for Gates, and {Kiora} now 😜
Imagine Kiora's emblem and {Domri Rade}'s emblem active at the same time...
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
Imagine Kiora's emblem and {Domri Rade}'s emblem active at the same time...
.... WOOWW
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 25, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: particle on December 25, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
in response: {dispel} or {simic charm}.
What does green really bring to the table actually?
{Prophet of Kruphix} is decent, it's green. I guess {Centaur healer} could be decent.
{polukranos, world eater}
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 25, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 25, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: particle on December 25, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
in response: {dispel} or {simic charm}.
Damn, Bant does have {Simic Charm} and {Azorius Charm}..
And Rev, and Verdict, and D-Sphere, and Elspeth, and Jace. Wait...
What does green really bring to the table actually?
Ramp, searching for Gates, and {Kiora} now 😜
I meant more in terms of control. From what I found we have:
- {Loxodon Smiter}, pretty sweet, funny to get {Thoughtseize}d when clutching him alone.
- {Plasm Capture}, seems decent enough, I mean, if you like {Mana Drain}.
- {Progenitor Mimic}, fun shenanigans.
- {Prophet of Krufix}, {Seedborn Muse} anyone?
- {Voice of Resurgence}, maybe the wrong direction, yet very solid.
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
If she can survive for 4 turns, it's pretty much GG
That's true for almost every plainswalker that's relevant and not trash (Gideon)
You misspelled {Liliana of the Dark Realms}.
Gideon actually has a use in aggressive mirrors because you end up stalling out and then he gets big fast.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
If she can survive for 4 turns, it's pretty much GG
That's true for almost every plainswalker that's relevant and not trash (Gideon)
You misspelled {Liliana of the Dark Realms}.
Gideon actually has a use in aggressive mirrors because you end up stalling out and then he gets big fast.
You both misspelled {Sorin Markov}
Quote from: S717 on December 25, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
If she can survive for 4 turns, it's pretty much GG
That's true for almost every plainswalker that's relevant and not trash (Gideon)
You misspelled {Liliana of the Dark Realms}.
Gideon actually has a use in aggressive mirrors because you end up stalling out and then he gets big fast.
You both misspelled {Sorin Markov}
How do you guys not know how to spell {Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}?
Tibalt is going to help Xenagos become a god lol
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 25, 2013, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: S717 on December 25, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Potticus on December 25, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
If she can survive for 4 turns, it's pretty much GG
That's true for almost every plainswalker that's relevant and not trash (Gideon)
You misspelled {Liliana of the Dark Realms}.
Gideon actually has a use in aggressive mirrors because you end up stalling out and then he gets big fast.
You both misspelled {Sorin Markov}
How do you guys not know how to spell {Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}?
Sorin is amazing especially in higher life formats. He played well in blue black control back around zendikar scars time.
Tibalt has a perfect place in my chaos cube, but other than that he is total toilet paper.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 25, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Tibalt is going to help Xenagos become a god lol
If Tibalt helped Xenagos, Xenagos would end up as a vanilla 0/1.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 25, 2013, 04:19:57 PM
Okay, so I asked this a while ago and got absurd answers so I am asking again now. Where is {Voice of Resurgance} going? When is the best time to buy and what price do you expect?
This is not the price thread.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 25, 2013, 04:19:57 PM
Okay, so I asked this a while ago and got absurd answers so I am asking again now. Where is {Voice of Resurgance} going? When is the best time to buy and what price do you expect?
This is not the price thread.
Oops...
Wow now I need to build a Blue green ramp deck haha
Just watch as everyone forgets these ideas as the spoilers keep rolling out.
Quote from: Wizardmook on December 26, 2013, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on December 25, 2013, 11:25:32 PM
Wow now I need to build a Blue green ramp deck haha
Love blue/green, play the combination. Green is extremely viable. Play that rather than the endless boring control decks. But some people slag off mazes end but that is one deck I actually like to play against as people put lots of variety into it.
Yeah and no-one expects it at my LGS too lol
Two color devotion
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
Quote from: Wizardmook on December 26, 2013, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on December 25, 2013, 11:25:32 PM
Wow now I need to build a Blue green ramp deck haha
Love blue/green, play the combination. Green is extremely viable. Play that rather than the endless boring control decks. But some people slag off mazes end but that is one deck I actually like to play against as people put lots of variety into it.
I made everyone stop playing control with my Orzhov Control deck. It's a discard deck that I named control for some reason but you can look at it in the standard thread.
I'm looking forward to an Atheros god/Demigod{B}{W} I'm picturing a new {ghost council of Orzhova} or something similar
When is the BotG release date?
Quote from: Destore117 on December 29, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
I'm looking forward to an Atheros god/Demigod{B}{W} I'm picturing a new {ghost council of Orzhova} or something similar
When is the BotG release date?
February 7
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 29, 2013, 12:28:59 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on December 29, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
I'm looking forward to an Atheros god/Demigod{B}{W} I'm picturing a new {ghost council of Orzhova} or something similar
When is the BotG release date?
February 7
Ugh...it's so very far away...
Well save up and splurge on prerelease its I think the 29th
I will try xD
Quote from: Destore117 on December 29, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
I'm looking forward to an Atheros god/Demigod{B}{W} I'm picturing a new {ghost council of Orzhova} or something similar
When is the BotG release date?
Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I know right! I can't wait for a new 🌞💀 commander!!!
You think they'll all be enchantment creatures to?
More nasty indestructibles for zur to grab?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 29, 2013, 03:13:20 AM
You think they'll all be enchantment creatures to?
More nasty indestructibles for zur to grab?
I kinda hope so. Maybe they can finally ban zur.
I doubt these gods will be indestructible but I would not be surprised if they follow the same/similar devotion related transformation.
I don't think they'd be indestructible. As they are most likely lesser gods. But I'm sure they'll have fun effects.
Pharika might even bring back Infect ^-^ (ok maybe not but is supposedly god of poison right?)
I'd picture
Atheros {2}{B}{W}
Legendary Creature- God
Whenever Atheros enters the battlefield each opponent loses 1 life
{1}{W}{W}:Gain life equal to life lost by opponents this turn
{1}{B}{B}:Each opponent loses 1 life
2/3
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 28, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
the use devotion for the gods to become creatures...how do you think the two color gods will become creatures?
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 29, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 28, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
the use devotion for the gods to become creatures...how do you think the two color gods will become creatures?
Hybrid mana?
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 29, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 29, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 28, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
the use devotion for the gods to become creatures...how do you think the two color gods will become creatures?
Hybrid mana?
so than, something like...five white and/or green mana symbols, or something like that?
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 29, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 29, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 29, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 28, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
the use devotion for the gods to become creatures...how do you think the two color gods will become creatures?
Hybrid mana?
so than, something like...five white and/or green mana symbols, or something like that?
Probably
With the Greek mythology inspired base for this block, and with new Merfolk, possible reprint of {Lord of Atlantis}?
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 29, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
With the Greek mythology inspired base for this block, and with new Merfolk, possible reprint of {Lord of Atlantis}?
That would make mono blue devotion even more ridiculously strong, which personally i would love but it'd be the best deck out by far.
Quote from: Slenderbro on December 29, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 29, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
With the Greek mythology inspired base for this block, and with new Merfolk, possible reprint of {Lord of Atlantis}?
That would make mono blue devotion even more ridiculously strong, which personally i would love but it'd be the best deck out by far.
Not really, the only other Merfolk that I know of being run by Monoblue is {Master of Waves}
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Quote from: Slenderbro on December 29, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 29, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
With the Greek mythology inspired base for this block, and with new Merfolk, possible reprint of {Lord of Atlantis}?
That would make mono blue devotion even more ridiculously strong, which personally i would love but it'd be the best deck out by far.
Not really, the only other Merfolk that I know of being run by Monoblue is {Master of Waves}
And tidebinder... Shoretheif would become a thing as well
even if they did, i doubt {triton shoretheif} would be good.
Quote from: particle on December 29, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
even if they did, i doubt {triton shoretheif} would be good.
{Triton fortune hunter} FTW
Didn't read most of these pages but seen a bunch of {Gemstone Mine}'s for sale way more then normal. Did they say it is being reprinted in this set.
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on December 29, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: particle on December 29, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
even if they did, i doubt {triton shoretheif} would be good.
{Triton fortune hunter} FTW
I have so many of those fortune hunters and have yet to use a single one xD
Quote from: particle on December 29, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
even if they did, i doubt {triton shoretheif} would be good.
lol at neg karma. somebody a big {triton shoretheif} fan?
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Quote from: particle on December 29, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
even if they did, i doubt {triton shoretheif} would be good.
ITZ DAH BEST CARD EVAR!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!
lol at neg karma. somebody a big {triton shoretheif} fan?
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 29, 2013, 05:26:32 PM
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Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 29, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
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Quote from: DirtyMustachio on December 28, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Personally a fan of spells of one color permenants of the devotion color
the use devotion for the gods to become creatures...how do you think the two color gods will become creatures?
Hybrid mana?
so than, something like...five white and/or green mana symbols, or something like that?
Probably
isn't that two color devotion?
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
http://mythicspoiler.com
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
curiosity is an ability in {U}{G}. And I would think discovery would fit those colors as well, but I maybe wrong
Although explain {steam augury}'s flavor text, and also {spellheart chimera}
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
curiosity is an ability in {U}{G}. And I would think discovery would fit those colors as well, but I maybe wrong
Although explain {steam augury}'s flavor text, and also {spellheart chimera}
Curiosity is really more of a red blue thing IMO, and I don't think some flavor text indicates it. Like Jura flavor text on m14 cards, but he wasn't in if :P just my thoughts.
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
curiosity is an ability in {U}{G}. And I would think discovery would fit those colors as well, but I maybe wrong
Although explain {steam augury}'s flavor text, and also {spellheart chimera}
Curiosity is really more of a red blue thing IMO, and I don't think some flavor text indicates it. Like Jura flavor text on m14 cards, but he wasn't in if :P just my thoughts.
red is too emotional to be curious about stuff. Plus {curiosity} doesn't work as a red ability
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
curiosity is an ability in {U}{G}. And I would think discovery would fit those colors as well, but I maybe wrong
Although explain {steam augury}'s flavor text, and also {spellheart chimera}
Curiosity is really more of a red blue thing IMO, and I don't think some flavor text indicates it. Like Jura flavor text on m14 cards, but he wasn't in if :P just my thoughts.
red is too emotional to be curious about stuff. Plus {curiosity} doesn't work as a red ability
Well, it does when paired with blue.
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Let's speculate on the temples. I think the {R}{U} one will be called {temple of prophesy}
Edit: on a side note. Kiora was spoiled as a planeswalker for this set
More like Temple of Curiosoty or Temple of Discovery
curiosity is an ability in {U}{G}. And I would think discovery would fit those colors as well, but I maybe wrong
Although explain {steam augury}'s flavor text, and also {spellheart chimera}
Curiosity is really more of a red blue thing IMO, and I don't think some flavor text indicates it. Like Jura flavor text on m14 cards, but he wasn't in if :P just my thoughts.
red is too emotional to be curious about stuff. Plus {curiosity} doesn't work as a red ability
Well, it does when paired with blue.
no, because blue cannot draw a rad with no drawbacks. That's a rule, so there would always be strings attached
I could be wrong though. However, prophecy is a good guess for {U}{R} because prophesies are unexpected insights
Temple of Knowledge? Perhaps?
Wasn't izzet about unexpected intelligence and what not?
Quote from: Destore117 on January 03, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Temple of Knowledge? Perhaps?
Wasn't izzet about unexpected intelligence and what not?
simic was about mutants and chimeras and such and yet {temple of mystery}
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 03, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Temple of Knowledge? Perhaps?
Wasn't izzet about unexpected intelligence and what not?
simic was about mutants and chimeras and such and yet {temple of mystery}
It's not about the guilds, just what they are overall. For example Dimir. ;)
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 03, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Temple of Knowledge? Perhaps?
Wasn't izzet about unexpected intelligence and what not?
simic was about mutants and chimeras and such and yet {temple of mystery}
It's not about the guilds, just what they are overall. For example Dimir. ;)
you mean what the colors are about? Not what the guilds are about?
I'm not sure Ohrzov is about silence. ({temple of silence})
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 03, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2014, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 03, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Temple of Knowledge? Perhaps?
Wasn't izzet about unexpected intelligence and what not?
simic was about mutants and chimeras and such and yet {temple of mystery}
It's not about the guilds, just what they are overall. For example Dimir. ;)
you mean what the colors are about? Not what the guilds are about?
I'm not sure Ohrzov is about silence. ({temple of silence})
The temples aren't based off of what the guilds are like.
In that case, you were just repeting what I said. I agree with you there
Do you think will get a new legendary land like {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx} ??
I don't know maybe like:
{T}: Add {1} to your mana pool
{2}{T}: Choose a color. Add to your mana pool an amount of mana of that color equal to the number of enchantments you control.
I'm actually pretty happy they're reprinting {Speingleaf Drum}. That means one of our infinite combos comes back!
Quote from: Ertai on January 04, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
I'm actually pretty happy they're reprinting {Speingleaf Drum}. That means one of our infinite combos comes back!
Which one?
The first spoiler week starts January 13! Can't wait.
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
Wait official or no
Achilles?
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 04, 2014, 11:46:19 PM
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
It's not on MTGSalvation or MythicSpoiler so I would guess that its just speculation.
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 04, 2014, 11:46:19 PM
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
If it is true, cool flavour for sure!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 05, 2014, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 04, 2014, 11:46:19 PM
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
It's not on MTGSalvation or MythicSpoiler so I would guess that its just speculation.
Saw it on a pre sale sight and was able to zoom in...it makes perfect sense if you consider mythology.
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 05, 2014, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 05, 2014, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 04, 2014, 11:46:19 PM
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
It's not on MTGSalvation or MythicSpoiler so I would guess that its just speculation.
Saw it on a pre sale sight and was able to zoom in...it makes perfect sense if you consider mythology.
Link? I haven't seen anything..
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 04, 2014, 11:46:19 PM
Just saw a {Akhilleus} {1}{W}{W}
Double strike Indestructible
If he is dealt exactly one damage sacrifice him.
He is a 2/2 legend
He does seem too easily flawed (eg. {Electrickery} as previously mentioned) and not worth the rare slot he'd probably be placed as and/or Legendary status (if actually real that is...). Did this card read "dealt exactly 1 damage" or "dealt exactly 1
combat damage"? Because that wording makes the world of difference.
If it's the former, meh.
If it's the latter, imma reconsider my monowhite Tron EDH commander slot...
PS Get me that link please!
I don't think it's real. Sound out the name a few times aloud. It would be cool but also way too flimsy. I thinkif they made an Achilles card it would be akroan, so maybe RW in the cost. He is a war hero, so double strike sounds appropriate though
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on January 06, 2014, 01:09:07 AM
I don't think it's real. Sound out the name a few times aloud. It would be cool but also way too flimsy. I thinkif they made an Achilles card it would be akroan, so maybe RW in the cost. He is a war hero, so double strike sounds appropriate though
However, the cards they've released of late have been getting sillier...
For all the haters...go to Minature Market.com and scroll to the second ad on the main page(Born of the Gods Presale) and zoom in to the white legend in the top left hand corner ...
It seems to be gone, anybody screencap it?
Quote from: Johng4490 on January 06, 2014, 01:31:42 PM
It seems to be gone, anybody screencap it?
I did but I only got Ackhilleus and the blue card.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gxp2hcb0og53hl/2014-01-06%2005.37.50.png
Quote from: gtfotis on January 06, 2014, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Johng4490 on January 06, 2014, 01:31:42 PM
It seems to be gone, anybody screencap it?
I did but I only got Ackhilleus and the blue card.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gxp2hcb0og53hl/2014-01-06%2005.37.50.png
Awesome thanks
Not to mention that if there was any proof, every other site would be selling preorders of it and spoiler sites would have posted it.
Yeah, if you ever check out #mtg or #magicthegathering on instagram, a lot of people make their own cards that look pretty sick and pretty believable so it wouldn't be hard to fake some cards for an ad.
Quote from: Taysby on January 06, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
I think there fake because they don't have the border.
I think that the border is starting in M15
Yes the border starts in M15 but those "spoiler" cards dont even have a border, flavor text (despite having enough room), and are lacking copyright info. Also {akroan horse} shows exactly how close to actually mythology they will get, this white card is way too close to achilles.
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
Quote from: particle on January 06, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
even better, something like {Torpor Orb}
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 06, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: particle on January 06, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
even better, something like {Torpor Orb}
All that stops is the fanatic effects. That doesnt stop the devotion overloading power in R/G and mono blue.
stops MOW and gray merchant which are the main problems i think.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 06, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 06, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: particle on January 06, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
even better, something like {Torpor Orb}
All that stops is the fanatic effects. That doesnt stop the devotion overloading power in R/G and mono blue.
It also stops {Master of the Waves} and {Grey Merchant of Asphodel}. R/G is a problem still, but it can be stopped with heavy removal and board wipes.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 06, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 06, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
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Quote from: particle on January 06, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
even better, something like {Torpor Orb}
All that stops is the fanatic effects. That doesnt stop the devotion overloading power in R/G and mono blue.
It also stops {Master of the Waves} and {Grey Merchant of Asphodel}. R/G is a problem still, but it can be stopped with heavy removal and board wipes.
lol. great minds think alike.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 06, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 06, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
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Quote from: particle on January 06, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
i want them to print a devotion hoser. something like:
Vow of Heretics 3
until EOT all references to devotion have no effect.
even better, something like {Torpor Orb}
All that stops is the fanatic effects. That doesnt stop the devotion overloading power in R/G and mono blue.
It also stops {Master of the Waves} and {Grey Merchant of Asphodel}. R/G is a problem still, but it can be stopped with heavy removal and board wipes.
I was hoping not to have to be so very specific as to mention every devotion based etb.
its not that we wanted to mention all of them. no one mentioned mogis maraudes or nylea's disciple because they're not completely taking over standard. gray merchant and Mow are taking over.
Kiora has people going crazy at the GS I was at today. 4 people came in looking for cards to make a simic deck.
Also, a Planeswalkers guide to Born of the gods. Pretty cool stuff http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/281
Quote from: Taysby on January 08, 2014, 09:44:16 AM
Return to zendikar?
Hopefully....we need the fetches to be reprinted so more people can get into Modern, myself included. I don't want to spend $55 on {Misty Rainforest}.
Quote from: Taysby on January 08, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
run tron. it needs no fetches. or run legacy manaless dredge. it need NO lands whatsoever. ;)
but seriously, kiora is trying to find big monsters to clear out the eldrazis on her home plane. Therefore, I think we are doing a return to zendikar after theros.
RETURN OF THE FULL ART BASICS!!!!
Quote from: Taysby on January 08, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
run tron. it needs no fetches. or run legacy manaless dredge. it need NO lands whatsoever. ;)
but seriously, kiora is trying to find big monsters to clear out the eldrazis on her home plane. Therefore, I think we are doing a return to zendikar after theros.
Agreed that's what pretty much EVERYONE at my LGS says ... CAN'T WAIT!!! :P
With this as her story arc, we're bound to see some new big blue beasties! Probably a return of the leviathan subtype.
Hey agrus, did u say the first spoiler week was next week?
Yay!
I was hoping he wouldn't succeed, but oh well. It's good storytelling if he does. Also, the higher up he is, the more spectacular his fall if he has one
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Who?
{xenagos, the reveler} became a god
Notice how only planeswalkers can kill gods?
is that a hint towards {Elspeth, suns champion}?
And a new Ajani
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What about the minor gods? Here is a chart we can fill in as we find it out:
{W}{U} Ephara ({Ephara's Warden}, through process of elimination, kind of has to be)
{W}{B} Athreos (a guess based on {Scholar of Athreos})
{W}{R} Iroas (a guess based on {Priest of Iroas})
{W}{G} Karametra ({Karametra's Acolyte}, through process of elimination, it kind of has to be)
{U}{B} Phenax (source: referenced in {Disciple of Phenax} and named in http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/276) Thanks Birdbrain!
{U}{R} Keranos (source {Steam Augury} flavor text, also mentioned in {Lightning Strike})
{U}{G} Kruphix (a guess based on {Prophet of Kruphix)
{B}{R} Mogis (source: {Fanatic of Mogis} and {Deathbellow Raider})
{B}{G} Pharika, God of Poison (source: {Pharika's Mender} and http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/263)
{R}{G} Xenagos (source: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ur/281)\
Thought I'd repost this...
Here is the most updated version of that.
Phenax is confirmed {U}{B}, thanks Birdbrain!
Well, I think we can be about 99.99% sure that this chart is right...
Yeah, I'd say so. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the Lesser Gods are capable of. C'mon, Dega colours, give me decent Gods!
My {U}{R} skies deck is now leaning heavily towards scry, and I hope Keranos helps it out in leaps and bounds
I'm hoping Aethros has a bit of a celebration of life and death feel! Like pump the living +*/+* style for all your dead. Or a devotion for creatures in graveyard, haha!
I just want more enchantments for an EDH deck I want to build. Also, we will now have 20 gods in all of magic. Am I the only one thinking of 5 color God Control EDH?
MaRo said there will be a new enchantment creature mechanic
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/281
also, according to the wikia, gods are possibly able to move about to different planes... maybe we'll see more gods in the future?
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Blind_Eternities
Yeah seems they are strongly hinting the gods were once just planeswalkers that found a way to nyx. Which is why xen ascending is such a problem, shows the mortals there not true gods.
IDK.....planeswalkers are supposed to be super rare (hence the new Mythic rarity made for them) and having at least 19 (14 gods, Elspeth, Zenagos, Ashiok, Kiora, and Unnamed JOU) on one plane would really break the whole system and lore. The planeswalker's guide said that Zenagos only ascended because of some ritual so I can the gods being extremely powerful wizards that work together to dominate the mortals, but all of them being planeswalkers can't be true.
Quote from: bravado883 on January 08, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
Says previewing soon so it's probably new.
If I'm not mistaken, Monday is the official start of spoiler season.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 08, 2014, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on January 08, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
Says previewing soon so it's probably new.
If I'm not mistaken, Monday is the official start of spoiler season.
if I'm not mistaken, then I am a monkeys uncle
Got into a debate about this at my school. What if Xenagos was one of the main god's sons? Like Heliod or someone? They have the same horns... And the set is titled "born of the gods", making it seem like Xenagos is the son of a god... Make sense?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 08, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Got into a debate about this at my school. What if Xenagos was one of the main god's sons? Like Heliod or someone? They have the same horns... And the set is titled "born of the gods", making it seem like Xenagos is the son of a god... Make sense?
This makes a lot of sense. The Greek and Roman gods were notorious for sleeping around and giving birth to lots of sons.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 08, 2014, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 08, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Got into a debate about this at my school. What if Xenagos was one of the main god's sons? Like Heliod or someone? They have the same horns... And the set is titled "born of the gods", making it seem like Xenagos is the son of a god... Make sense?
This makes a lot of sense. The Greek and Roman gods were notorious for sleeping around and giving birth to lots of sons.
That would be great... :))
Any word on the theros novel release?
Quote from: Taysby on January 08, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
Yeah, I can see it now
Intimacy. 1wb
Target creature becomes legendary, gains the "god" and enchantment" subtype is indestructible and if it's controller's devotion to any of its colors is less than 5, it's not a creature.
i would think a card iluding to what your iluding to in that title would be {R}
I'm wondering. Can you have Xenagos's planeswalker and god card out at the same time?
Of course you can. They'd be different card types, and probably have different names.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on January 09, 2014, 07:40:21 AM
Of course you can. They'd be different card types, and probably have different names.
well then wizards is creating an "elephant in boots" situation which they try to avoid
It's their own rule set. You can have creature and Planeswalker Karn on the field. Same as Venser. Why wouldn't Xenagos get the same treatment?
Have thou forgotten the awesomeness that occurs with {nicol bolas} and {nicol bolas, planeswalker} gracing thy battlefield? That trumps all.
Ummmmm
Hey guys
{Nefarious burn} bob promo
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/nefariousburn.html
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 10, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
Ummmmm
Hey guys
{Nefarious burn} bob promo
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/nefariousburn.html
I like the name shamagma jet for it. :)
The prerelease promos have been spoiled and translated as well. The U and W ones are the coolest. The R and B ones are pretty cool too, but the G one just never does what you'd want it to.
red dragon seems good too.
Pack rat has a new toy in that demon... If it gets played...
Storm breath got a new friend...
Green hydra will be interesting...
Nefarious burn in legacy?
Well... We get a sphinx... Who brings in big stompy things... SIMIC RAMP FTW!!!!
Sidenote: What if you could give a permanent inspiration. {Basalt Monolith} would be even funnier then.
Quote from: Vileo on January 11, 2014, 04:33:06 AM
The prerelease promos have been spoiled and translated as well. The U and W ones are the coolest. The R and B ones are pretty cool too, but the G one just never does what you'd want it to.
i think the green one would surprise you. For example, it works well with {conjerer's closet}
Also, gruul was supposed to have a mechanic were it fights things when it enters the battlefield, but they dropped it because it was too powerful
And if they do pay the tribute, there's a mechanic called trample you can give it. It's playable, you just need to be prepared to work with either discussion
Edit: also, if they pay the tribute. You could always drop a {pit fight} for a garunteed removal, and then steamroll your opponent
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: Vileo on January 11, 2014, 04:33:06 AM
The prerelease promos have been spoiled and translated as well. The U and W ones are the coolest. The R and B ones are pretty cool too, but the G one just never does what you'd want it to.
i think the green one would surprise you. For example, it works well with {conjerer's closet}
Also, gruul was supposed to have a mechanic were it fights things when it enters the battlefield, but they dropped it because it was too powerful
{Gruul Ragebeast}
Quote from: Rass on January 11, 2014, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: Vileo on January 11, 2014, 04:33:06 AM
The prerelease promos have been spoiled and translated as well. The U and W ones are the coolest. The R and B ones are pretty cool too, but the G one just never does what you'd want it to.
i think the green one would surprise you. For example, it works well with {conjerer's closet}
Also, gruul was supposed to have a mechanic were it fights things when it enters the battlefield, but they dropped it because it was too powerful
{Gruul Ragebeast}
theres a difference between the ragebeast and this. The ragebeast forces all of your creatures that enter to fight. This just makes itself fight, plus it could become huge. Which green has plenty of tools that can take advantage of its size
My friend speculated
{G}
Tribute 4
Whenever it deals combat damage to a player, if the tribute was paid, tap all lands you control.
2/2
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 11, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
My friend speculated
{G}
Tribute 4
Whenever it deals combat damage to a player, if the tribute was paid, tap all lands you control.
2/2
this is too horrible to ever be a card
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
And if they do pay the tribute, there's a mechanic called trample you can give it. It's playable, you just need to be prepared to work with either discussion
Edit: also, if they pay the tribute. You could always drop a {pit fight} for a garunteed removal, and then steamroll your opponent
There's a thing called control. "Nah, no counters for you." "Nah, Charm it."
The mana costs on all of them are insane though.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 11, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
My friend speculated
{G}
Tribute 4
Whenever it deals combat damage to a player, if the tribute was paid, tap all lands you control.
2/2
this is too horrible to ever be a card
In what way?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 11, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 11, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
My friend speculated
{G}
Tribute 4
Whenever it deals combat damage to a player, if the tribute was paid, tap all lands you control.
2/2
this is too horrible to ever be a card
In what way?
well, for one thing, you could just wait until after you played everything else you wanted in that turn and it becomes pointless that your lands get tapped or not. And even if you are saving mana for other things. {fog} for instance, green has mana dorks that an get around it. So the tribute is pointless like that
So which promo do we think will be the best? In limited I mean
Green one
green, red, blue, white, black
Quote from: particle on January 11, 2014, 07:46:07 PM
green, red, blue, white, black
AHHH THE INTELLIGNCE!! THE INSIGHT!! IT IS DROWNING MEEEEEE!!!
Blue or white
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 11, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
So which promo do we think will be the best? In limited I mean
Im going with the Sphinx, who will definitely be hangin out with Sharuum in my EDHSphinxes deck, that's for sure.
All I know is I want the white, blue and red ones. White for Enchantress EDH, Blue for Sharuum Artifact EDH and Red for Dragon EDH. The red dragon is basically watered down {Thundermaw Hellkite}.
Just saw some of the art of Xenagos as a god.
Guessing he takes first the 5 gods power in BotG then Ashiok's power in the last part of this cycle. Also assuming based on the art there'll be a new Ajani. And this is my own guess that there'll be fallen gods when Xenagos takes their power (assuming that he doesn't kill them)
Idk if any of this has been said just thought I'd throw my 2 cents around.
So there's Elspeth
Ajani
Kiora as PW's (if Ajani gets printed)
Xenagos
So that's 4 walkers. So far
Quote from: Destore117 on January 11, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
So that's 4 walkers. So far
4 walkers. (period). MaRo said there would be two in THS, 1 in BNG and 1 in JOU
Alright. Didn't know that. Sounds good. Wonder what the 4th is. Xenagos allfather? Lol
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 11, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
So which promo do we think will be the best? In limited I mean
Im going with the Sphinx, who will definitely be hangin out with Sharuum in my EDHSphinxes deck, that's for sure.
do you think the sphinx will go well in my {R}{U} flying deck?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 11, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 11, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
So that's 4 walkers. So far
4 walkers. (period). MaRo said there would be two in THS, 1 in BNG and 1 in JOU
there were 3 in THS
Ashiok, elspeth, and who?
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on January 11, 2014, 10:45:07 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 11, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 11, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
So that's 4 walkers. So far
4 walkers. (period). MaRo said there would be two in THS, 1 in BNG and 1 in JOU
there were 3 in THS
Ashiok, elspeth, and who?
{Xenagos, the reveler}
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 11, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 11, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
So that's 4 walkers. So far
4 walkers. (period). MaRo said there would be two in THS, 1 in BNG and 1 in JOU
there were 3 in THS
Oops, I meant 5 total, my mistake.
So much talk about xenagos and I forgot him.. I've pulled a elspeth and 2 ashioks, yet not a single xenagos..
I think they will always print 5 walkers each set just because that's how they've been doing it for years now
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on January 12, 2014, 12:25:09 AM
I think they will always print 5 walkers each set just because that's how they've been doing it for years now
So The only one left. If he's getting printed (as you can see him atop some crumbling buildings next to Elspeth facing Xenagod) would be an Ajani?
Quote from: Destore117 on January 12, 2014, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on January 12, 2014, 12:25:09 AM
I think they will always print 5 walkers each set just because that's how they've been doing it for years now
So The only one left. If he's getting printed (as you can see him atop some crumbling buildings next to Elspeth facing Xenagod) would be an Ajani?
Hopefully. I want a lifegain centered {W}{G} Ajani. My EDH deck would be VERY happy and could use it Standard in some stupid deck.
{W}{B} corrupted Aiani! >:D
Lol jk
Quote from: Taysby on January 12, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
With the white guy, you can return your bestow creatures bestowed on something, right?
Id believe so. But the bestow being an extra cost might make this not the case.
Bestow is an alternate cost. It only works if you cast it.
But doesn't it say in bestow you may cast this as an aura enchantment or whatever?
Quote from: Destore117 on January 12, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
But doesn't it say in bestow you may cast this as an aura enchantment or whatever?
Yes, but returning it from the graveyard isn't "casting" it.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 12, 2014, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 12, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
But doesn't it say in bestow you may cast this as an aura enchantment or whatever?
Yes, but returning it from the graveyard isn't "casting" it.
Ah ok. Didn't understand what the issue was.
new spoilers! prerelease promos! and new mechanics! :D :D
what do people think of tribute as a mechanic? i like it a lot... seems REALLY good. it gives your opponent 2 bad choices, although you will always get the worse choice for you out of it.
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 12, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
what do people think of tribute as a mechanic? i like it a lot... seems REALLY good. it gives your opponent 2 bad choices, although you will always get the worse choice for you out of it.
No, they will give you what they think is the worse choice. With a good deck, you can turn the "worse choice" into the best thing ever. For example, with this new card, if they have a kill spell, they will let you have the counters, but {Fling} or a like card makes that the wrong choice. If they let you Fight, giving the thing deathtouch can take out some huge beasts. The trick is making sure you can abuse both options.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 12, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 12, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
what do people think of tribute as a mechanic? i like it a lot... seems REALLY good. it gives your opponent 2 bad choices, although you will always get the worse choice for you out of it.
No, they will give you what they think is the worse choice. With a good deck, you can turn the "worse choice" into the best thing ever. For example, with this new card, if they have a kill spell, they will let you have the counters, but {Fling} or a like card makes that the wrong choice. If they let you Fight, giving the thing deathtouch can take out some huge beasts. The trick is making sure you can abuse both options.
Well put.
I hope white gets something relative to grey merchant.
Or it'd be nice to see a white weenie with an ability to cast aura spells from your graveyard
I know this one is broken but an enchantment that
Costs 2-4 mana with a mana ability to give
X creatures protection of a color of your choice where x is your devotion to white or something
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 12, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 12, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
what do people think of tribute as a mechanic? i like it a lot... seems REALLY good. it gives your opponent 2 bad choices, although you will always get the worse choice for you out of it.
No, they will give you what they think is the worse choice. With a good deck, you can turn the "worse choice" into the best thing ever. For example, with this new card, if they have a kill spell, they will let you have the counters, but {Fling} or a like card makes that the wrong choice. If they let you Fight, giving the thing deathtouch can take out some huge beasts. The trick is making sure you can abuse both options.
i agree, well put. although i was more thinking in terms of prerelease sealed where you might not get lucky to have access to that kind of effect. but still, you're right.
SPOILER SEASON COMMENCES!!!!
AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/22FOAgZ8mm_EN.jpg)
Waste Not is going to love this:
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/bCXl3Zxdwu_EN.jpg)
Holy Limited Bomb!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/lrH1kO2K5a_EN.jpg)
Watered Down Bob
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/wXHJZFYuK6_EN.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 12:02:40 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/22FOAgZ8mm_EN.jpg)
Waste Not is going to love this:
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/bCXl3Zxdwu_EN.jpg)
Holy Limited Bomb!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/lrH1kO2K5a_EN.jpg)
That god reminds me of god of war 2 when that huge statue comes to life and starts destroying Athens in the very beginning.
Born of the Gods Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfHuYo9Hw1Q
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 12:09:39 AM
Born of the Gods Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfHuYo9Hw1Q
This is awesome
so with ephara's devotion, double costed stuff counts twice? judge's familiar would be two devo to wu?
So I always hear miracle stories of people pre ordering cards for like 3 bucks a playset, where do you guys general pre order if you do?
I need a playset of foil {Pain Seer}s because that art is sick.
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
Quote from: particle on January 13, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
so with ephara's devotion, double costed stuff counts twice? judge's familiar would be two devo to wu?
Wizards site very clearly states hybrid mana counts as both colors of devotion but only adds one to the count when counting for the new gods.
Pain seer hmmm wonder why they are reprinting {spring leaf drum}..lol
So Ephara Phenax Mogis and that centaur forest goddess that I can't remember the name are most likely being cards.
Guessing the children of the gods are things such as
Centaurs for the forest chick.
Minotaurs for Mogis
Lions perhaps for Ephara or Sphinxes?
Blightful. Poisonous things such as rats and disease in the form of -1's and life loss for Phenax
Basically creatures
Which will count towards 2 colors of their own gods
Such as {Polukranos World Eater} idk about mixed devotion/mana costs like {Judge's Familiar}
But there's my ideas.
Also will be interested to see something like...MORE PHALANXES!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
If so, then where are the Phyrexians? The wiki states she was born on an unknown plane dominated by the Phyrexians...
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 13, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
If so, then where are the Phyrexians? The wiki states she was born on an unknown plane dominated by the Phyrexians...
Oh, that's right, she wasn't born on Theros, but had been there before.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 13, 2014, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: particle on January 13, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
so with ephara's devotion, double costed stuff counts twice? judge's familiar would be two devo to wu?
Wizards site very clearly states hybrid mana counts as both colors of devotion but only adds one to the count when counting for the new gods.
Could you imagine how easy it would be to break Keranos if you double counted hybrid. T1-{Blistercoil Weird}, T2-{Frostburn Weird}. I have 6 devotion already.
Xenagos god would be easier... Here, let me vomiting some {Burning-Tree Emissary}...
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 13, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
If so, then where are the Phyrexians? The wiki states she was born on an unknown plane dominated by the Phyrexians...
the wiki said she had spent some time in the uborg as a youth. Guess wizards dropped the ball on that secret. Her home plane is rath
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 13, 2014, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 13, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
If so, then where are the Phyrexians? The wiki states she was born on an unknown plane dominated by the Phyrexians...
the wiki said she had spent some time in the uborg as a youth. Guess wizards dropped the ball on that secret. Her home plane is rath
Urborg is not a part of Rath. It is a part of Dominaria...
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 13, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 13, 2014, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 13, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 13, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
I was thinking and: Born of the Gods, {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Theros is Elspeth's home plane....I think Elspeth is Heliod's daughter.
If so, then where are the Phyrexians? The wiki states she was born on an unknown plane dominated by the Phyrexians...
the wiki said she had spent some time in the uborg as a youth. Guess wizards dropped the ball on that secret. Her home plane is rath
Urborg is not a part of Rath. It is a part of Dominaria...
either way, wizards dropped the ball on this one
Quote from: Taysby on January 13, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
Is pain seer the new {dark confidant}?
it won't become as high as the original (cause the original already smoked most of the pot) but it looks like it is
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 13, 2014, 11:04:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 13, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
Is pain seer the new {dark confidant}?
it won't become as high as the original (cause the original already smoked most of the pot) but it looks like it is
No way. Unless u have a way to tap it each turn, u have to attack to get the trigger next turn. The great thing bout bob is he just sits there and gets u cards.
New mana artifact?
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 13, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 13, 2014, 11:04:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 13, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
Is pain seer the new {dark confidant}?
it won't become as high as the original (cause the original already smoked most of the pot) but it looks like it is
No way. Unless u have a way to tap it each turn, u have to attack to get the trigger next turn. The great thing bout bob is he just sits there and gets u cards.
{Paradise mantle}
Upon second look, it has the potential to be better if you find a combo that can tap and untap it multiple times a turn
Edit: D**n! I came up with a combo that did just that but can't remember it now...
Use pain seer with {Witches' Eye}
{Hidden Strings}!
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 13, 2014, 11:57:08 AM
{Hidden Strings}!
I smell u/b heroic with that guy coming along. Mmmm
Dimir heroic seems so strange it terms of flavor. Aren't they usually kinda evil?
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 13, 2014, 11:57:08 AM
{Hidden Strings}!
Too bad u can't target the same creature twice...to tap then untap.
{Umbral Mantle}?
I might go as far as to say that it is better than dark confidant because you can choose when to use its effect.
Quote from: Rasser on January 13, 2014, 01:10:29 PM
Trailor
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1406
Already posted a page back and I just put it on the first post.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 13, 2014, 12:18:49 PM
Dimir heroic seems so strange it terms of flavor. Aren't they usually kinda evil?
Exactly.but I lub the dude that makes opponent sac when his heroic is triggered
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 13, 2014, 12:26:38 PM
I might go as far as to say that it is better than dark confidant because you can choose when to use its effect.
I see your point but not really like Bob just does his thing whereas this one either has to swing or has to use another card like {Springleaf Drum} to activate BUT then again this card is quite awesome.
Why is Black so good? They already have a Thoughtseize!!! Now Baby Bob?!!!
New card spoiled on mtgsalvation
The art on the gods looks SO cool!!
Black Red has a good combo of Baby Bob and the new card that says enchanted creature has {R}: {T} discard a card, draw a card. do that at the end of their turn and it reads discard a card draw 2!
{Kiora's Follower} makes me a happy ramper. It really does 'INSPIRE' me to make some decks
So a god for every guild. Enteresante
Is Xenagos god really a 2-drop?
Also, the {W}{U} one is meh...
I think those are just his colors
Be op if all minor gods (other than control god) was a 2 drop
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 13, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
Is Xenagos god really a 2-drop?
Also, the {W}{U} one is meh...
No. The haven't release any other information about the card except for the first name and color identity.
Where's Atheros?!
Am I gonna have to wait until Journey to Nyx to get my god? ;~;
I think all the colours are going to have something like the Archetype of Imagination
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 13, 2014, 12:26:38 PM
I might go as far as to say that it is better than dark confidant because you can choose when to use its effect.
No way. You have to either attack and wait a turn or combo with it. Either way too slow and too much work. Bob kicks him in the face....multiple times.
If xenagos and the other gods are awesome
Expect a boost in hybrid card prices
Imagine a $3+ burning tree...
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 13, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
I think all the colours are going to have something like the Archetype of Imagination
I'd love this!
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on January 13, 2014, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 13, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
I think all the colours are going to have something like the Archetype of Imagination
I'd love this!
Well the new mechanic article (http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/bornofthegodsmechanics)states there is an Architype cycle in BNG, one for each colour.
Sooo pain seer = {Dark Confidant}?
I see some incredible esper control decks happening here
If you pay attention to MTG Salvation, it says 3/3 lands. I assume that Journey Into Nyx will involve the last two.
I love spoiler season!!
2 new sick sick cards. Go look
I need 8 hero of iroas
Moguls just made me have a desire to switch to Rakdos from Orzhov ... or just incorporate red
Need....... Forgestoker Dragon.....
That enchantment dude is sweet. Heroic and auras cost {1} less to cast
Kiora the crashing wave
Cancel Mogis out :D
I find the first 2 minor gods to be meh but that's me
How I picture Karametra
Indestructible
~Devotion stuff~
Creatures you control have Tribute 1 (or 2) (as this creature enters the battlefield any opponent may place 1 (or 2} +1/+1 counter(s) on it.)
If the tribute is not paid you gain 1 (or 2) life.
4/6
Unsure if that's OP but I could see it being a card
I know this is a bit silly but a card that thrills me is Sky Reaping. It empowers green! By ramping that card should have enough to outpace any flyer ({flame-wreath Phoenix}, pshaw, {eater of hope} whatever, {flamestoker dragon}, get outta here) AND you give green some scry to boot.
One thing I've loved about theros is it's helping me upgrade some modern staples. Old core cards keep getting renamed and given a free scry mechanic to boot.
Very interested in
Nyxborn Shieldmate-enchantment creature, pump ethereal armor, mono white deck
Temple of Malice, 4 color shenanigans
And the bob, no brainer, Pain Seer. Bx agro decks are going to get pretty dumb
Big *butt* kraken just spoiled... Release the Kraken!!!
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 14, 2014, 12:57:37 PM
Big *butt* kraken just spoiled... Release the Kraken!!!
I like it, but the minute you attack, they kill it :(
They either kill it and die to your other creatures... Or they don't block it at all. And if they have one tapped creature, they can't block it!!
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on January 13, 2014, 11:52:15 PM
If you pay attention to MTG Salvation, it says 3/3 lands. I assume that Journey Into Nyx will involve the last two.
Extremely weak
Yes! A decent four drop flier for my {R}{U} skies deck
It seems so strange to push back izzet and golgari temples. It's as if the guilds won't be balanced if they all had temple access in botg...
Bad move on development IMO
Already planning bant with the new Hero of Iroas. Turn one elvish mystic, turn two hero and alpha authority, turn three could be any 5 drop aura even bestow boon satyr.
Setting off multiple ordeal of Heliods on turn 3 would be hilarious.
Terokratis kraken monster + {Champion's Helm} + {Gruul War Chant} if for some reason they only have 1 creature
11/11 unblockable hexproof
Probably would be better give it trample though.
Does hero iroas work on bestow cost???
Plz god yes
Bestow is still a spell cast so it would trigger heroic
I meant would it decrease the cost of a bestow. Since it says it plays as an aura
I would say yes because it says if you cast this for it bestow cost it is an aura spell
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 14, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
I meant would it decrease the cost of a bestow. Since it says it plays as an aura
It said right on DailyMTG that it did. I can't wait to make Selesnya enchantments. {Boon Satyr} is SUCH a powerhouse!
New Pain Seer BETTER or WORSE than Bob? Able to be activated multiple times a turn but also more easily able to stop.
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 14, 2014, 06:37:42 PM
New Pain Seer BETTER or WORSE than Bob? Able to be activated multiple times a turn but also more easily able to stop.
Worse. Although, he has the ability to be activated multiple times a turn and can be "shut off" if he tries to kill you, your opponent can easily kill you with it and he takes A LOT of building around to truly abuse him.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 14, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 14, 2014, 06:37:42 PM
New Pain Seer BETTER or WORSE than Bob? Able to be activated multiple times a turn but also more easily able to stop.
Worse. Although, he has the ability to be activated multiple times a turn and can be "shut off" if he tries to kill you, your opponent can easily kill you with it and he takes A LOT of building around to truly abuse him.
How can they kill you with it?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 14, 2014, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 14, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 14, 2014, 06:37:42 PM
New Pain Seer BETTER or WORSE than Bob? Able to be activated multiple times a turn but also more easily able to stop.
Worse. Although, he has the ability to be activated multiple times a turn and can be "shut off" if he tries to kill you, your opponent can easily kill you with it and he takes A LOT of building around to truly abuse him.
How can they kill you with it?
By tapping and untapping it. They can easily tap it and when you get to your untap step you top deck a 5-drop.
-causes opponent to draw an Emrakul-
LOL
Picture alot of shenanigans with heroics and Ephara's Enlightenment
Quote from: Destore117 on January 14, 2014, 07:02:24 PM
-causes opponent to draw an Emrakul-
LOL
Almost as bad as being {mindslaved} and miracling your {bonfire of the damned} on yourself for 11....
Mindreaver is awesome
{U}{U}
Heroic- exile top three of target player's library.
{U}{U}, sac <name>: counter a spell with the same name as a card exiled by him.
2/1
Im paraphrasing a little obviously.
Hey look a skeleton mythic... Well that goes in my commander deck
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 15, 2014, 06:30:52 AM
Mindreaver is awesome
{U}{U}
Heroic- exile top three of target player's library.
{U}{U}, sac <name>: counter a spell with the same name as a card exiled by him.
2/1
Im paraphrasing a little obviously.
I'm going to want a playset of that thing
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
I'm rather disappointed with the when it untaps, pay this and get this cycle...
This. No Inspire decks coming from this guy.
God Favored General and {Xathrid Necromancer}. All the tokens
The new Minotaur got my hopes up when I thought mogis was a Minotaur. It would've been so boss. Mogis for 2 colorless wow
pain seer promo art looks awesome!
Buy a box promo?
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 15, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Buy a box promo?
Game day top 4 promo, the buy a box is the 5 damage to target planeswalker or creature thing.
Quote from: gtfotis on January 15, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 15, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Buy a box promo?
Game day top 4 promo, the buy a box is the 5 damage to target planeswalker or creature thing.
What do you think the value of the promo will be? 20+?
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 15, 2014, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on January 15, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 15, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Buy a box promo?
Game day top 4 promo, the buy a box is the 5 damage to target planeswalker or creature thing.
What do you think the value of the promo will be? 20+?
It really depends on how standard pans out. Inspiration is cool, but it requires multiple pieces to be affective and dies easily to removal. There is a good chance that stupid Devotion decks will continue to run standard. If that happens, there will be less demand for the promo and the card will be worth less.
The Baby Bob will definitely see plant in Monoblack and in control so I think that the promo will be worth some $$$
I badly wanna figure out how to break Pain Seer
Quote from: Quisequise on January 15, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
I badly wanna figure out how to break Pain Seer
find an infinite tap/untap combo
Xenagos seems a little {Berserk}.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/xenagosgodofrevels.html
Quote from: Rasser on January 15, 2014, 08:36:27 PM
Xenagos
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/xenagosgodofrevels.html
That's pretty good.
Wait! Did they actually make a decent demi-god!?!
If that's true, I'm preordering a playset...
Quote from: Rasser on January 15, 2014, 08:36:27 PM
Xenagos seems a little {Berserk}.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/xenagosgodofrevels.html
+1, I love the pun!
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
YESSS this is going in my rdw
Xenagos + ANY HYDRA + {Fling}
...GG >.>
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Agreed. I like it.
But won't there be 2 red green gods? Because there should be one for each guild, and the add Xenagos on top of it all...
No, Xenagos is the only green-red god. Apparently there was no Gruul colored god before all of this. It doesn't make much sense, but we have to accept it.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Agreed. I like it.
But won't there be 2 red green gods? Because there should be one for each guild, and the add Xenagos on top of it all...
No, Xenagos is the only green-red god. Apparently there was no Gruul colored god before all of this. It doesn't make much sense, but we have to accept it.
I'm assuming to achieve god status, xenagos killed the gruul god.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 15, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Agreed. I like it.
But won't there be 2 red green gods? Because there should be one for each guild, and the add Xenagos on top of it all...
No, Xenagos is the only green-red god. Apparently there was no Gruul colored god before all of this. It doesn't make much sense, but we have to accept it.
I'm assuming to achieve god status, xenagos killed the gruul god.
No, they talked about it somewhere. (I think in the trailer) Basically, Mogis sent the Minotaurs against the humans and Elspeth led the humans to fight the Minotaurs. This fight somehow caused some sort of revelry ritual which allowed him to ascend. Now everyone is like, "God Elspeth! This is why we can't have nice things! GTFO!" And now all the other gods are like, "Whoa! What do we do! These humans we have been forcing into work are going to realize we aren't that special!" So everyone is like all mad and confused.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 15, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Agreed. I like it.
But won't there be 2 red green gods? Because there should be one for each guild, and the add Xenagos on top of it all...
No, Xenagos is the only green-red god. Apparently there was no Gruul colored god before all of this. It doesn't make much sense, but we have to accept it.
I'm assuming to achieve god status, xenagos killed the gruul god.
No, they talked about it somewhere. (I think in the trailer) Basically, Mogis sent the Minotaurs against the humans and Elspeth led the humans to fight the Minotaurs. This fight somehow caused some sort of revelry ritual which allowed him to ascend. Now everyone is like, "God Elspeth! This is why we can't have nice things! GTFO!" And now all the other gods are like, "Whoa! What do we do! These humans we have been forcing into work are going to realize we aren't that special!" So everyone is like all mad and confused.
Best explanation ever.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 15, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 15, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Taysby on January 15, 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 15, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
And how bout searing blood for us red mages??
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151067&d=1389834005
Agreed. I like it.
But won't there be 2 red green gods? Because there should be one for each guild, and the add Xenagos on top of it all...
No, Xenagos is the only green-red god. Apparently there was no Gruul colored god before all of this. It doesn't make much sense, but we have to accept it.
I'm assuming to achieve god status, xenagos killed the gruul god.
No, they talked about it somewhere. (I think in the trailer) Basically, Mogis sent the Minotaurs against the humans and Elspeth led the humans to fight the Minotaurs. This fight somehow caused some sort of revelry ritual which allowed him to ascend. Now everyone is like, "God Elspeth! This is why we can't have nice things! GTFO!" And now all the other gods are like, "Whoa! What do we do! These humans we have been forcing into work are going to realize we aren't that special!" So everyone is like all mad and confused.
Best explanation ever.
I paraphrased....a little :P
I hope the {U}{B} god Phenax has a mill aspect to him. Some like.....
During your upkeep if you had a creature die last turn, each opponent puts the top 7 cards from their library into their graveyard.
Karametra is a RAMPER!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/tDdYNh3WHQ_EN.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 16, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
Karametra is a RAMPER!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/tDdYNh3WHQ_EN.jpg)
Holy crap... That's a sick god. My favorite so far.
Inb4 naya midrange is the best deck in standard.
That god is now my commander.
Gods have gotten better with each one revealed...ergo...Phenax will be the best? :D
Also. Thassa's Rebuff seems pretty good for mono blue.
{Gift of immortality} + {mindreaver}
Enjoy
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 16, 2014, 03:10:11 AM
{Gift of immortality} + {mindreaver}
Enjoy
That is just nasty! I love it! Lol
Too bad it doesnt track previously exiled cards. Every time you sac him you have to start a new exile pile since he is technically a new creature with no relation to the previous one in play.
Quote from: Taysby on January 16, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
What are you going to do with all those lands from karametra though? You already have 5 mana on the board...
how about landfall?
Quote from: Taysby on January 16, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
What are you going to do with all those lands from karametra though? You already have 5 mana on the board...
In standard maybe play a fatty deck, but in edh that card has great applications
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 16, 2014, 04:19:58 AM
Too bad it doesnt track previously exiled cards. Every time you sac him you have to start a new exile pile since he is technically a new creature with no relation to the previous one in play.
But its still kinda silly just something neat to put into application
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 16, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 16, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
What are you going to do with all those lands from karametra though? You already have 5 mana on the board...
In standard maybe play a fatty deck, but in edh that card has great applications
Play one GIANT {Mistcutter Hydra} lol or even sink it into some other X CMC mana or like JDog said Fatty deck ftw!!
{Fate Unreveler} could potential give control fits.
Could we see reanimater with that skeleton dude?
white archetype released. everything has first strike and your creatures lose first strike. for 3 mana!
Quote from: particle on January 16, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
white archetype released. everything has first strike and your creatures lose first strike. for 3 mana!
The angry 1 drops are going to love this guys company
Archetype of pain {1}-{2} {B}{B}
Creature-Demon
Creatures you control have Lifelink
Opponents can't have/gain lifelink
3/4
My guess for the black archetype if they go for each color
Green probably trample
Red probably haste
My guess
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 16, 2014, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 16, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 16, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
What are you going to do with all those lands from karametra though? You already have 5 mana on the board...
In standard maybe play a fatty deck, but in edh that card has great applications
Play one GIANT {Mistcutter Hydra} lol or even sink it into some other X CMC mana or like JDog said Fatty deck ftw!!
Nasty thought... Your playing against mono-blue... You bring a mistcutter at x=10, use god Xenagos ability to make him 20, swing for game?
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 16, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 16, 2014, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 16, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 16, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
What are you going to do with all those lands from karametra though? You already have 5 mana on the board...
In standard maybe play a fatty deck, but in edh that card has great applications
Play one GIANT {Mistcutter Hydra} lol or even sink it into some other X CMC mana or like JDog said Fatty deck ftw!!
Nasty thought... Your playing against mono-blue... You bring a mistcutter at x=10, use god Xenagos ability to make him 20, swing for game?
Naya Midrange FTW!!!
Now all we need is an {amulet of vigor} and people won't have a problem playing our little ramping demigod
I REALLY like {Torment's Herald}. Its {1}{b}{b} for a 3/3 flyer and you lose 1 life at the beginning of your upkeep w/ bestow for {3}{B}{B}. Not amazing, but I still REALLY like it for some reason.
Packaging
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1407
😳 who's on the event deck?
Quote from: Rasser on January 16, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
Packaging
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1407
😳 who's on the event deck?
It looks like one of the Returned. Basically a Zombie from the Underworld.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 16, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
I REALLY like {Torment's Herald}. Its {1}{b}{b} for a 3/3 flyer and you lose 1 life at the beginning of your upkeep w/ bestow for {3}{B}{B}. Not amazing, but I still REALLY like it for some reason.
Those will be the thing to draft.
Mythic CAT!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/i4NkDCksvL_EN.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 17, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
Mythic CAT!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/i4NkDCksvL_EN.jpg)
I'm loving this card. Mono white trying to make some moves.
{G} Archetype
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/archetypeofendurance.html
Mana ramp or cheat but get this guy out!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 17, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
Mythic CAT!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/i4NkDCksvL_EN.jpg)
I am soooooo stoked to have another cat generator and this guy is amazing, loving him even... but my OCD brain is hurting, they're not 2/2...
Quote from: Rasser on January 17, 2014, 01:58:24 AM
{G} Archetype
http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/archetypeofendurance.html
Mana ramp or cheat but get this guy out!
NO!!!! Now I need to find an excuse to run him! He's just so expensive!! Although Karametra tokens could play it quickly.
{G}{W} Heroic is going to love this:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/a02853cc3341e6c8cb470555510410a5/tumblr_mzj4x3jEpt1s2gfofo1_400.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 17, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
{G}{W} Heroic is going to love this:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/a02853cc3341e6c8cb470555510410a5/tumblr_mzj4x3jEpt1s2gfofo1_400.jpg)
why did they make this when {common bond} last block?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 17, 2014, 07:35:57 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 17, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
{G}{W} Heroic is going to love this:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/a02853cc3341e6c8cb470555510410a5/tumblr_mzj4x3jEpt1s2gfofo1_400.jpg)
why did they make this when {common bond} last block?
maybe it didn't live up to there expectations?
Quote from: Taysby on January 17, 2014, 09:21:53 AM
Felhide spirit binder. Watered down Kiki?
no. I think its different from Kiki jiki entirely, because the token being an enchantment opens up a whole unexplored area of strategy...I know! Kiki jiki doesn't make {etheral armor} or {sphere of saftey} better
Which opens up a whole new color for pillow fort decks
In all retrospect, blue is broken with anything.
Blue is so broken, it can make {Steamflogger Boss} the star of the deck, and crush you into a pulp
What would happen if you fated infatuation gideon when he's a creature?
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on January 17, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
In all retrospect, blue is broken with anything.
Blue is so broken, it can make {Steamflogger Boss} the star of the deck, and crush you into a pulp
WHAT DOES THAT CARD EVEN MEAN?! XD
someone make a deck around it
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 17, 2014, 05:21:04 PM
What would happen if you fated infatuation gideon when he's a creature?
You get a token planeswalker that is an exact copy. Then you sac one of them cuz planeswalker uniqueness rule. Wanna be really mean? Ult one, float the mana, and copy to make a bigger swing next turn. :)
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on January 18, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 17, 2014, 05:21:04 PM
What would happen if you fated infatuation gideon when he's a creature?
You get a token planeswalker that is an exact copy. Then you sac one of them cuz planeswalker uniqueness rule. Wanna be really mean? Ult one, float the mana, and copy to make a bigger swing next turn. :)
So he's still a plainswalker when he's a creature? That was what I wanted to get at because if he wasn't then the one would turn back and maybe they both stay. Wasn't sure
Reap what is sown
Can you target the same creature 3 times?
If so
Heroic!!!
Quote from: Destore117 on January 18, 2014, 02:06:21 AM
Reap what is sown
Can you target the same creature 3 times?
If so
Heroic!!!
3 different creatures unfortunately.
Wouldnt matter anyway because it's per spell not per target
Quote from: Steerpike on January 18, 2014, 02:37:42 AM
Wouldnt matter anyway because it's per spell not per target
Oh well. Target three heroics!
Are spoilers done or something? Been like 3 days since something new.
Probably just cuz it's the weekend lol
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
Leonin have only ever been White, haven't they?
{Qasali Pridemage}
{Leonin Armorguard}, etc.
There are a lot of tiger people in green too.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
No its an enchantment:
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151225&d=1389935024)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 19, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
No its an enchantment:
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151225&d=1389935024)
read the last effect. It's wolf tribal
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 04:51:31 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 19, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
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Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
No its an enchantment:
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151225&d=1389935024)
read the last effect. It's wolf tribal
Its not "wolf tribal", its a card based off the Roman genesis of Romulus and Remus who were "Raised by Wolves", MaRo has said it himself.
Quote from: Taysby on January 20, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
Is a 5 color deck feasible with our mana base? We do have {maze' send} to fetch stuff.... That chromatic ore...
... Not Hexproof lol
Quote from: Taysby on January 20, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
Is a 5 color deck feasible with our mana base? We do have {maze' send} to fetch stuff.... That chromatic ore...
I have been thinking the same thing, but IMO he's takes too much work to be killed by {Hero's Downfall}.
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Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
No its an enchantment:
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151225&d=1389935024)
read the last effect. It's wolf tribal
Its not "wolf tribal", its a card based off the Roman genesis of Romulus and Remus who were "Raised by Wolves", MaRo has said it himself.
What it is based on doesnt make it any less wolf tribal in the realm of magic.
{Hero's Podium}...
... Kamigawa??? *hopeful lilt to his voice*
Edit: hahaha, irony of the unlinked link.
Quote from: Spikepit on January 20, 2014, 01:25:04 AM
{Hero's Podium}...
... Kamigawa??? *hopeful lilt to his voice*
Edit: hahaha, irony of the unlinked link.
{Captain Sisay} says, "hi."
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 20, 2014, 12:47:35 AM
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Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 19, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Just letting the foam clear from people's mouths for a bit after King Kitty.
i would have expected a few green leonion as well. Lions do hunt in the forest. Although I agree there primary color would be white
Green is a community color too
{Raised by wolves} feature's a green leonin.
they made a wolf tribal card?
No its an enchantment:
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151225&d=1389935024)
read the last effect. It's wolf tribal
Its not "wolf tribal", its a card based off the Roman genesis of Romulus and Remus who were "Raised by Wolves", MaRo has said it himself.
What it is based on doesnt make it any less wolf tribal in the realm of magic.
i guess what I'm trying to say is it could go into a wolf tribal deck
Omg chromanticore and heroes podium are going in my 5 color EDH legendary deck :)
Quote from: Noblellama on January 20, 2014, 12:42:31 AM
But pay the extra and attach him to something for giggles... I mean, come on forum, what's play a game of what is the best creature you can think to bestow a {chromanticore} onto?
In draft? {Yoked Ox}!!
I'm waiting for an awesome creature that is crazy mana to cost but bestows for cheap but makes your creature worse
Quote from: Noblellama on January 20, 2014, 12:42:31 AM
But pay the extra and attach him to something for giggles... I mean, come on forum, what's play a game of what is the best creature you can think to bestow a {chromanticore} onto?
Monstrositied {Fleecemane Lion} or {Reaper of the Wilds}?
(For hexproof purposes)
Spoilers from the BNG "Face the Horde" Game Day deck: http://mtg-spot.tumblr.com/post/74022392890/major-face-the-horde-gameday-spoilers
Pretty cool. I think it will be a bit of a tougher fight since killing all the minotaurs won't win for you. Looks like control decks are screwed against it though :)
I'll 1v1 it with my control deck
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/q1ep2CNflh_EN.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 21, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ%29D%28jk2m2389/q1ep2CNflh_EN.jpg)
I wants it real bad
Bug seems nice tap untap fun stuff
Pair it with {consuming abberation}:) and tbh i like big butts (and I cannot lie)
Mill deck sounds fun :)
Phenax + Pain Seer = Mill ftw! Can't wait to play this!!!
I also wanna see hero of lenia tower with {alpha authority} that sucker can safely get huge
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 21, 2014, 12:45:35 AM
Phenax + Pain Seer = Mill ftw! Can't wait to play this!!!
Add {Consuming Aberration} or {Wight of Precinct Six}
Self mill got alot more promising :p
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on January 21, 2014, 01:23:03 AM
I also wanna see hero of lenia tower with {alpha authority} that sucker can safely get huge
I'm really liking how Naya hexproof is shaping up to be a formidable deck in standard.
Looks like {U}{B} inspiration will be a thing with {phenax, god of deception}. He is absolutly synergistic with that mechanic
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 21, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
Looks like {U}{B} inspiration will be a thing with {phenax, god of deception}. He is absolutly synergistic with that mechanic
with two {wall of frost}s and a {triton tactics} mill your opponent for 34!
{Spiteful Returned} seems like it'll fit well in Rakdos. Not crazy about 4 for the bestow though.
Quote from: particle on January 21, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 21, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
Looks like {U}{B} inspiration will be a thing with {phenax, god of deception}. He is absolutly synergistic with that mechanic
with two {wall of frost}s and a {triton tactics} mill your opponent for 34!
You sir are a genius!!
Phenax + {Lord of Extinction}
Quote from: Destore117 on January 21, 2014, 10:44:14 PM
Phenax + {Lord of Extinction}
{B}{U}{G} is some nasty colors :)
Quote from: Muggywuggy on January 21, 2014, 10:48:37 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 21, 2014, 10:44:14 PM
Phenax + {Lord of Extinction}
{B}{U}{G} is some nasty colors :)
+ {Kioara's Follower} untap your 25/25 tap again to mill 25
Now a 50/50
Oh wait is Iroas the guy in {Glimpse the Sun God}?
DAT NEW MINOTAUR ...... {ENTER THE INFINITE} AND {BORBORGYMOUS ENRAGED} GOT SOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!
Quote from: Noblellama on January 22, 2014, 12:12:03 AM
I love all the cheap bestow costs on commons, no abilities just straight power toughness bonuses and an "I dare you to kill it" army waiting to happen!!
Couldn't agree more!!!
Quote from: Steerpike on January 21, 2014, 11:41:12 PM
Oh wait is Iroas the guy in {Glimpse the Sun God}?
Im thinking that be {Heliod, God of the Sun}. Goatee, long hair, hint of that halo above his head, sun majestically beaming down behind him.
Quote from: Spikepit on January 22, 2014, 01:10:23 AM
Quote from: Steerpike on January 21, 2014, 11:41:12 PM
Oh wait is Iroas the guy in {Glimpse the Sun God}?
Im thinking that be {Heliod, God of the Sun}. Goatee, long hair, hint of that halo above his head, sun majestically beaming down behind him.
...Oh hey! Looks who's dumb as hell.
Steerpike. That's who.
Okay, I'm sure many of seen this but I am going to post it anyways.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/22729b1f21d6d0d5567f70cc9d7e48e8/tumblr_mzsehuBTVz1s2gfofo6_400.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
Okay, I'm sure many of seen this but I am going to post it anyways.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/22729b1f21d6d0d5567f70cc9d7e48e8/tumblr_mzsehuBTVz1s2gfofo6_400.jpg)
What's that for?
yea i havent seen that gold mana making artifact yet, either.
I think magic has potential to turn around from the tap fest it is. I might start playing competitively
Quote from: Noblellama on January 20, 2014, 12:42:31 AM
But pay the extra and attach him to something for giggles... I mean, come on forum, what's play a game of what is the best creature you can think to bestow a {chromanticore} onto?
{Genju of the Realm}
Quote from: Grimmykinns on January 22, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 20, 2014, 12:42:31 AM
But pay the extra and attach him to something for giggles... I mean, come on forum, what's play a game of what is the best creature you can think to bestow a {chromanticore} onto?
{Genju of the Realm}
that makes lands Ledgendary? Lol. Enchant your forest when you have 8 forests and sacrifice down to one! Lol
I hope the gold digger isn't too expensive, really hope it pops one out each upkeep but I think that's too much to ask for
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
Okay, I'm sure many of seen this but I am going to post it anyways.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/22729b1f21d6d0d5567f70cc9d7e48e8/tumblr_mzsehuBTVz1s2gfofo6_400.jpg)
My speculation: it's a play on King Midas. Something like "when ~Midas deals damage to a creature, exile that creature. It's controller gets ~Gold.
Quote from: particle on January 21, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 21, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
Looks like {U}{B} inspiration will be a thing with {phenax, god of deception}. He is absolutly synergistic with that mechanic
with two {wall of frost}s and a {triton tactics} mill your opponent for 34!
Add {Hidden Strings} and mill for 48?
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on January 22, 2014, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: particle on January 21, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 21, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
Looks like {U}{B} inspiration will be a thing with {phenax, god of deception}. He is absolutly synergistic with that mechanic
with two {wall of frost}s and a {triton tactics} mill your opponent for 34!
Add {Hidden Strings} and mill for 48?
or just another {triton tactics} and hit a cool 60 cards milled.
Mill is definitely standard feasible again :)
Sacrifice Midas put x gold tokens into play where x is devotion to color? Or just his combat damage to a player. Prevent that damage and put that many gold into play?
(Ok last one is probs OP)
Who's Midas?
Anything he touches turns to gold
That Siren seems pretty nasty using springleaf or some likewise effect.
Quote from: Destore117 on January 22, 2014, 04:29:38 PM
That Siren seems pretty nasty using springleaf or some likewise effect.
Yeah, I might make a Dimir Inspiration deck. It seems cool.
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
Alot of things are getting spoiled, like 30 in the last 10 minutes. The thing that makes gold is a black card named {Gild}, it is a {3}{B}, exile target creature that creatures controller gets a Gold token.
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
The art is so badass!
I dont know which mono deck i want to play! well other than red. or blue.
Quote from: DYMongoose on January 22, 2014, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
Okay, I'm sure many of seen this but I am going to post it anyways.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/22729b1f21d6d0d5567f70cc9d7e48e8/tumblr_mzsehuBTVz1s2gfofo6_400.jpg)
My speculation: it's a play on King Midas. Something like "when ~Midas deals damage to a creature, exile that creature. It's controller gets ~Gold.
Found it!
Gild 3B
Sorcery
Exile target creature, get the gold. Lol
White's gonna tear it up
Quote from: gtfotis on January 22, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
The art is so badass!
I know! I can't wait to make my Enchantment decks.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/eidolonofcountlessbattles.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on January 22, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
The art is so badass!
I know! I can't wait to make my Enchantment decks.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/eidolonofcountlessbattles.jpg)
I need a playset of foils!
A playset of non foils went up on eBay for 22 bucks 😰
All in all this will be a fun set
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on January 22, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
The art is so badass!
I know! I can't wait to make my Enchantment decks.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/eidolonofcountlessbattles.jpg)
this will go well in the edh deck I'm currrently working on in deck builder
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 22, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on January 22, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 05:31:02 PM
Wow! This just got spoiled:
Eidolon of Countless Battles
1ww
Bestow: 2ww
Eidolon of Countless Battles and enchanted creatures gets +1/+1 for each creature you control and +1/+1 for each aura you control.
0/0
I like this a lot!!!
The art is so badass!
I know! I can't wait to make my Enchantment decks.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bng/cards/eidolonofcountlessbattles.jpg)
this will go well in the edh deck I'm currrently working on in deck builder
Mine too!
I absolutely love blue's new boardwipe. Better than {Evacuation}! Not strictly better, because the effects are slightly different...but still more relevant in most situations! Definitely reason enough to stick 1 {Archeomancer} in a stall/control deck, because you can {Evacuation} every turn if you have 8 mana! I used to do this with {Devastation Tide} in last standard and it was vey effective.
{Impetuous Sunchaser}; is this dude their take on Icarus, the wax wing boy?
For some reason I was thinking Icarus would be blue, the whole search higher understanding and knowledge/artificer of flying machine, but red makes sense too with the chasing fame and glory at any cost and without realising consequences.
There is so much to do with this set. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
Omg {bio visionary} + {fated infatuation} + {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
Acolytes reward {1}{W}
Prevent {X} damage to target creature where {X} is devotion to {W}
If damage prevented this way acolyte's reward deals that much damage to target creature or player
My question is the damage dealt back equal to damage that was prevented or devotion to white?
Either way I want this card x4
Quote from: Destore117 on January 23, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
Acolytes reward {1}{W}
Prevent {X} damage to target creature where {X} is devotion to {W}
If damage prevented this way acolyte's reward deals that much damage to target creature or player
My question is the damage dealt back equal to damage that was prevented or devotion to white?
Either way I want this card x4
If the damage is equal to the devo. Its gunna get silly.
On Theros, the dove is a symbol not of peace but of spoilers. Quick wings herald the arrival of new cards.
Anyone else notice this flavor text for plea for guidence lol
Quote from: Destore117 on January 23, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
Acolytes reward {1}{W}
Prevent {X} damage to target creature where {X} is devotion to {W}
If damage prevented this way acolyte's reward deals that much damage to target creature or player
My question is the damage dealt back equal to damage that was prevented or devotion to white?
Either way I want this card x4
I read it as damage equal to the prevents damage.
Two cool things pointed out to me about new botg cards. {eye gouge} could potentially see sideboard play as a {mutavault} killer. and new infinite combo with {fathom mage} enchanted with {sunbond} and a {horizen chimera} out. no need for a pesky {archangel of thune}.
{satyr firedancer} for mono red burn, either legacy or modern? Maybe even standard?
1 ^^^ awesome
2 krakens are scary.
Bam all the white
All the cards
Quote from: Noblellama on January 23, 2014, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 23, 2014, 11:46:48 AM
On Theros, the dove is a symbol not of peace but of spoilers. Quick wings herald the arrival of new cards.
Anyone else notice this flavor text for plea for guidence lol
I was literally just working on that!!!
Me too!
Haha I never noticed that...wha...?
Quote from: S717 on January 24, 2014, 01:52:34 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 23, 2014, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on January 23, 2014, 11:46:48 AM
On Theros, the dove is a symbol not of peace but of spoilers. Quick wings herald the arrival of new cards.
Anyone else notice this flavor text for plea for guidence lol
I was literally just working on that!!!
Me too!
I think it's a reference to using doves as messager birds, sort of how Americans used to use passager pigeons during the early wars.
Is this a Constructed Playable card?
Ghostblade Eidolon 2{W}
Enchantment Creature — Spirit Uncommon
Bestow 5{W}
Double strike
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has double strike.
My reasoning is {Boon Satyr} is {3}{G}{G} to bestow and this has a similar effect....
That {Charging Badger} though..
This set looks SO GOOD! Especially for limited.... Wow.
Quote from: Taysby on January 24, 2014, 12:01:11 PM
I don't really like it. there's nothing really that fits my playstyle. I like green a lot, but I have to make a blue black deck. wtf?
R u serious?? Green red is going to be a powerhouse!! Xenegod an the green instant for plus X/X where x is ur green devotion. So good!!
I'm not liking that there's a mono colored mythic for white, red, and black, but not for blue or green. What a bummer.
Quote from: LordJanova on January 24, 2014, 12:44:11 PM
I'm not liking that there's a mono colored mythic for white, red, and black, but not for blue or green. What a bummer.
Guess that means green and blue get.silly ones next set
So looking on MaRo's tumblr he mentioned specifically how Mutavault is a cyclops. So I'm pretty sure that's why that made that black card that kills the cyclops.
Quote from: bravado883 on January 24, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
Hmm, possibly but there's LOTs of removal that hits {Muravault}. It's not a terribly difficult card to deal with. I'm really not into this set...blue based control got jack. The only cards right now that seem useful are {Vortex Elemental} (maybe), {Glimpse of the Sun God}, and maybe {Nullify}. But ugh! Couldn't it have been 1U instead of UU?
Really? Blue was dominating standard with Mono blue devotion, Azorius and Esper control. Did blue really need that much out of this set? This set will bring variety to standard, which was getting stale.
Black based control looks ridiculous. Also, that satyr is gonna replace all of my {grisly salvage} in my junk rites deck. It digs, it leaves a chump blocker, and it's less mana intensive. What's not to love?
Loving the look of this set so much so I've bought my 1st booster box :)
Hoping for {pain seer} and a couple if the gods. Should be fun :)
So. Hopefully I can get a few packs of this set. But hey. Since we know all the cards. Isn't it time to start speculation/spoilers for Journey Into Nyx?
Quote from: Destore117 on January 27, 2014, 03:15:54 AM
So. Hopefully I can get a few packs of this set. But hey. Since we know all the cards. Isn't it time to start speculation/spoilers for Journey Into Nyx?
I predict that there will be creature cards
I hope not. The clutter on the stickies bugs me. I don't see any need to start speculation threads til at least the middle of March!
Whole sets been spoiled
What GW cards are up for grabs here other than Brimaz, Kara, and Roas? The vanilla enchantment seems jelly. The anti-removal {G} is cool. So much white weenie push though.
I think a lock based around roman mythology would be more about artifacts for some reason
I definitely agree with you. Like things similar to the Golden Fleece or the Lion's Mane the shield of Medusa.
I must say, after seeing born of the gods in its entirety I have high hopes that this game is turning around strategy wise. I'm going to start playing semi-competitively
You mean there's strategy and not just "I went first so I win"??? :| since when?!
Wow, so Tumblr just pointed out a great thing about Ephara. She is great as a flicker/bounce commander. I actually half-way think it is somewhat decent now.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 27, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
I think a lock based around roman mythology would be more about artifacts for some reason
Greek mythology, Romans were just cowards and thieves, stealing everything from weapons, to battle tactics, to the Greeks religion. ie, there really is no such thing as roman mythology
Quote from: S717 on January 28, 2014, 01:12:06 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 27, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
I think a lock based around roman mythology would be more about artifacts for some reason
Greek mythology, Romans were just cowards and thieves, stealing everything from weapons, to battle tactics, to the Greeks religion. ie, there really is no such thing as roman mythology
But hey!
Rome had Ceasar? XD
{Arena}/{Arena of the Ancients} should get reprinted
Arena would work better with theros
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 28, 2014, 06:31:20 PM
Arena would work better with theros
It would only make sense to be printed again as it is like Greek/Roman and they already printed an {Arena Athlete} what kind of arena is it if you're not fighting to the death to please the gods?!
What about {magus of the arena}?
And by the way. The arena was roman mythology. Not Greek
The arena wasn't Roman mythology. It was Roman FACT.
The Colloseum is still around, you know. Decrepit, but still around.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on January 28, 2014, 07:52:01 PM
The arena wasn't Roman mythology. It was Roman FACT.
The Colloseum is still around, you know. Decrepit, but still around.
the Colloseum was roman as well I thinks
Yes it was
Desticky time?