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Title: New Mana!!!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 03, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
Here is what I asked on Blogatog the answer I got:

alexcm4297 asked: Are there any plans and/or thoughts of making another form of alternate mana like Phyrexian mana in the future?

No comment. : )

link: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/60201241604/are-there-any-plans-and-or-thoughts-of-making-another
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: imthelolrus on September 03, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
That's exciting :D
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
That is pretty cool!
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Deebiia on September 03, 2013, 09:19:21 PM
So it's a possibility now. What do you think it will be?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 03, 2013, 09:36:32 PM
This is a difficult design and It is more likely that this was the issue with the set rosewater wanted for this year than new colors or other theories i have heard.

New mana huh...thinking of how I would do that....
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 03, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Yes, new mana is really hard to make from a development standpoint. If you make it too easy to cast (like if Phyrexian mana only 1 life) it becomes OP.
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on September 04, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Not purple again... 😳
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Mattao19 on September 04, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
Hate to be the killer here but doesn't MaRo give that reply to everything?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 04, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 04, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
Hate to be the killer here but doesn't MaRo give that reply to everything?

No, unless he can't answer the question (because it will spoil something) he usually gives a straight answer. Also, you submit questions and he chooses which he answers so he picked this for a reason.
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Mattao19 on September 04, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 04, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 04, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
Hate to be the killer here but doesn't MaRo give that reply to everything?

In that case awesome!! Lol

No, unless he can't answer the question (because it will spoil something) he usually gives a straight answer. Also, you submit questions and he chooses which he answers so he picked this for a reason.
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 04, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Hoping for control playable, wizards dousnt realize that devotion is useless for control
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 04, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 04, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Hoping for control playable, wizards dousnt realize that devotion is useless for control

the {Gray Merchant of Phosodel} would be really good for control if control used more permanents, like enchantments. For example, {Dark Prophecy} is amazing for devotion.
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 04, 2013, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 04, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 04, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Hoping for control playable, wizards dousnt realize that devotion is useless for control

the {Gray Merchant of Phosodel} would be really good for control if control used more permanents, like enchantments. For example, {Dark Prophecy} is amazing for devotion.

I dont run creatures that can be targetted though... My stradagy with my grixis is after mt opponent sides out their removal i side in a ton of creatures and they wont die!!!
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 05, 2013, 12:43:31 AM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 04, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Not purple again... 😳
I liked purple, it was a really cool color, with a nice flavor.  And to my dismay, they axed it off.
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: xborborygmosx on September 05, 2013, 06:13:18 AM
God damn I reaaaalllly hope purple stay nixed
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Mattao19 on September 05, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?

Hmm interested so like if the cost was 1X where X is the new mana symbol. You can pay it with either {B} or by milling 1?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 05, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?

Hmm interested so like if the cost was 1X where X is the new mana symbol. You can pay it with either {B} or by milling 1?
milling one would be way too overpowered. You would have to mill three in order for it to be balanced

60/3=20
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 10:39:39 AM
Maybe 4 or 5
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 11:01:34 AM
Maybe you exile the cards? Anyway, the library is another resource people could use to gain card advantage. And I haven't really ever seen it done. Gorzo had said this idea might be OP. but that doesn't mean the library can't be exchanged in other ways. What color do you think would exchange the library for card advantage most?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 05, 2013, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 11:01:34 AM
Maybe you exile the cards? Anyway, the library is another resource people could use to gain card advantage. And I haven't really ever seen it done. Gorzo had said this idea might be OP. but that doesn't mean the library can't be exchanged in other ways. What color do you think would exchange the library for card advantage most?
Blue
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Mattao19 on September 05, 2013, 11:58:32 AM
Blue would get the card advantage but Golgari would be good if the cards just go in the graveyard. Because Scavenge would benefit and  {Scavenging Ooze} would have an all you can eat buffet lol
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Rass on September 05, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?

Isn't that the dredge mechanic?
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: Rass on September 05, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?

Isn't that the dredge mechanic?
which is why I think exiling would be better. And it could fit into any color that way
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
An dredge takes things from the grave yard not plays them
Title: Re: New Mana!!!
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 06, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: Rass on September 05, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 05, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
What if the new mana depleted the library instead of life?

Isn't that the dredge mechanic?
which is why I think exiling would be better. And it could fit into any color that way
But you could always just make your library slightly bigger. Actually no, this idea just seems too good. Mill instead of pay? Even exiling to make cards cost less? That sounds EXTREMELY dangerous to me.