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Title: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 29, 2013, 09:34:17 PM

Total Madness

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Opal Palace}
1 {Seaside Citadel}
1 {Crumbling Necropolis}
1 {Arcane Sanctum}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {Savage Lands}
1 {Jungle Shrine}
3 {Swamp}
3 {Island}
3 {Plains}
6 {Mountain}
4 {Forest}
1 {Selesnya Guildgate}
1 {Gruul Guildgate}
1 {Maze's End}
1 {Orzhov Guildgate}
1 {Boros Guildgate}
1 {Golgari Guildgate}
1 {Rakdos Guildgate}
1 {Simic Guildgate}
1 {Dimir Guildgate}
1 {Azorius Guildgate}
1 {Izzet Guildgate}
1 {Homeward Path}
1 {Reliquary Tower}

39 lands


1 {Cromat}
1 {Chaos Lord}
1 {Perplexing Chimera}
1 {World Queller}
1 {Tyrant of Discord}
1 {Mannichi, the Fevered Dream}
1 {Fumiko the Lowblood}
1 {Taurean Mauler}
1 {Serendib Sorcerer}
1 {Zedruu the Greathearted}
1 {Karplusan Minotaur}

11 creatures


1 {Proteus Staff}
1 {Tempt with Discovery}
1 {Increasing Ambition}
1 {Game of Chaos}
1 {Scapeshift}
1 {Assemble the Legion}
1 {Whims of the Fates}
1 {Obelisk of Alara}
1 {Door to Nothingness}
1 {Witch Hunt}
1 {Explosive Vegetation}
1 {Mystic Barrier}
1 {Vow of Lightning}
1 {Grip of Chaos}
1 {Copy Enchantment}
1 {Goblin Game}
1 {Puppet's Verdict}
1 {Endless Whispers}
1 {Sphere of Safety}
1 {Vow of Wildness}
1 {Vow of Duty}
1 {Vow of Flight}
1 {Spreading Plague}
1 {Illicit Auction}
1 {Arcane Laboratory}
1 {Armillary Sphere}
1 {Idyllic Tutor}
1 {Diabolic Revelation}
1 {Warp World}
1 {Harrow}
1 {Kodama's Reach}
1 {Possibility Storm}
1 {Austere Command}
1 {Chromatic Lantern}
1 {Cultivate}
1 {Chaos Warp}
1 {Insurrection}
1 {Obliterate}
1 {Thran Dynamo}
1 {Molten Psyche}
1 {Scrambleverse}
1 {Celestial Dawn}
1 {Illusions of Grandeur}
1 {Soul Conduit}
1 {Blood Moon}
1 {Donate}
1 {Howling Mine}
1 {Confusion in the Ranks}
1 {Manabarbs}
1 {Mindslaver}

50 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:

Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 29, 2013, 09:38:59 PM
Some special notes about this deck :P

1: Win condition? What's a win condition? There is none here, the entire purpose of this deck is to make the game as fun and bizarre as possible for laughs! I did choose to include the {Maze's End} win condition with {Scapeshift} so the deck is actually capable of a win, and with this condition as a win it allows for the fun of the game to continue even after I win for more insanity to occur.

2: my strategy for not dying is to politically convince players to not hurt me because I will make the game hilarious.

3: this deck is a terrible idea, but it's going to be funny, and I want to do it :D

As you can see, it's a few cards over, I'm down to the final few cuts and could use some advice. Based on the fact that this deck is simply for amusement, laughs, and having fun, any input along those lines is welcome :)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Boringanarchy2 on August 29, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
Aka, the Dirty Harry
"I cast a spell."
"You feeling lucky punk?"
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 29, 2013, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: Boringanarchy2 on August 29, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
Aka, the Dirty Harry
"I cast a spell."
"You feeling lucky punk?"

Haha, pretty much. I laughed out loud when I first saw {Grip of Chaos}, and said "Yup, this deck is happening."
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: ApexPredator on August 31, 2013, 11:51:15 AM
 {Possibility Storm} seems like a great card for this. 
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 31, 2013, 06:29:38 PM
It's in there, and I love it ;)

I was doing a sample draw last night and noticed something I hadn't seen before. {Obliterate} destroys lands, creatures, and artifacts... NOT enchantments, which are the bread and butter of the shinanegans of this deck. I laughed out loud when I noticed what would happen when this happened with my deck.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Spikepit on August 31, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
SOME IS USING {CHAOS LORD}!!!

My hat is off to you Gorzo!!!

I know you're already a few cards over but what about {Goblin Bomb}? If you're looking for take out suggestions, maybe {Manabarbs}? If anything ticks players off more its land restriction (I learnt that from my LD obsession days).
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mlerner12 on September 01, 2013, 12:35:52 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on August 31, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
SOME IS USING {CHAOS LORD}!!!

That last ability... Might want a {Phelldagryph}!!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 07, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
Getting down to crunch time!

- {Bazaar Trader}. He doesn't give enchantments! So he's going to be pretty worthless to me, even if I get him out together with Zedruu.

And I realized at this point, I only have 9 creatures in the deck. None of which are essential. So...

- {Worldly Tutor}
- {Lightning Greaves}

And along those lines...

- {Mass Polymorph}
+ {Proteus Staff}

I still want the staff, because I will be stealing creatures with chaos, and polymorphing them will be hilarious. But mass Polymorph is not at all necessary.

Only 3 cuts to go!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on September 07, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
Cut mana barbs. Too expensive for too little damage.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 07, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
- {Curse of Exhaustion}

- {Rampant Growth}
+ {Explosive Vegetation}

I thought about cutting manabarbs, but then during a sample draw, I had {sphere of safety} + 7 enchants out, played {manabarbs}, then {Obliterate}. I literally laughed out loud when I though about how players would react to this tactic. I have to do it.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 07, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
This one might raise some eyebrows, but...

- {Sol Ring}.

I have a lot of ramp in here that makes up for it, and {Thran Dynamo} is still there to do work.

Plus, the raise in the ring's price tag has me shying away. The revised edition now costs less than the commander edition. That's just silly.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on September 07, 2013, 06:45:24 PM
But the new art is sooo pretty...(in foil)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 08, 2013, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 07, 2013, 06:45:24 PM
But the new art is sooo pretty...(in foil)

I've actually never seen it in foil. I wish you could get the old art in foil - I love the whole "Eye of Sauron" thing it has going on :P

I need one more measly cut. I'm considering cutting a land, honestly, but running less than 40 in a 5 color deck scares me a bit. It should be okay with the ramp, though, right? Maybe?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on September 08, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
It'll work! You get a free mull in EDH anyways...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 08, 2013, 03:32:57 AM
I'd say it's done then! Or at least, it was until I got the cards out and saw the {Grand Melee} I'd been saving for the deck. Hmm... Can it make it in somehow...

Also found a copy of...
+ {Increasing Ambition}

Which will replace...
- {Diabolic Tutor}

Kind of a shame, I love the art on Diabolic tutor. But having the option to use the card a second time (and search for an additional 2 cards) makes it worth the extra 1 mana to cast initially. And it's not double-black, which is also nice.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 08, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
I would love to play a 4+ player game with this deck on the field, holy crap that just sounds awesome! Almost every set has that one terrible red card, ({Scrambleverse}, {Possibility Storm} etc.) and I've always speculated what would that card actually do? I love EDH for the crazy interactions and political appeal, but this deck completely changes the game, literally. Well done sir, this deck is fantastic!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 08, 2013, 04:06:22 PM
Many thanks! I've edited the deck post now that cuts and changes have been made. And the last of the cards I need to make the deck are in the mail (yay amazon reward points! Nothing like a free EDH deck!)

I do wish I could find room for {Grand Melee} and {Goblin Bomb} though :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Antirayman on September 08, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
Can someone explain how the card  {Goblin Game} works? I'm totally confused!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 08, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: Antirayman on September 08, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
Can someone explain how the card  {Goblin Game} works? I'm totally confused!

It's a super fun card. Everyone writes down a number or covers small objects with their hand (coins, dice, etc). They are all revealed at the same time. Everyone loses life equal to the number they wrote down or how many things they covered up. Whoever had the lowest number then loses a whopping half of their life total! The idea is use a number high enough to avoid being the lowest (so you don't lose half your life), but low enough that you aren't flat-out crippled by the life lost from just hiding stuff!

Example!

-Jim plays {Goblin Game}. All players laugh.

- Jim writes down 4 on a scrap of paper. Nick hides 6 pennies. Steve hides 3 dice. Shawn hides 4 M&Ms.

- Players reveal their numbers. Steve loses 3 life, Shawn and Jim lose 4, and Nick loses 6 life.

- Steve loses half of his remaining life total - he lost the goblin game!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Iandtormentor on September 08, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 08, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: Antirayman on September 08, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
Can someone explain how the card  {Goblin Game} works? I'm totally confused!

It's a super fun card. Everyone writes down a number or covers small objects with their hand (coins, dice, etc). They are all revealed at the same time. Everyone loses life equal to the number they wrote down or how many things they covered up. Whoever had the lowest number then loses a whopping half of their life total! The idea is use a number high enough to avoid being the lowest (so you don't lose half your life), but low enough that you aren't flat-out crippled by the life lost from just hiding stuff!

Example!

-Jim plays {Goblin Game}. All players laugh.

- Jim writes down 4 on a scrap of paper. Nick hides 6 pennies. Steve hides 3 dice. Shawn hides 4 M&Ms.

- Players reveal their numbers. Steve loses 3 life, Shawn and Jim lose 4, and Nick loses 6 life.

- Steve loses half of his remaining life total - he lost the goblin game!
i feel bad for Steve...ouch
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 14, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 14, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
Was doing a random search and found a car that would be perfect for this deck: {{Teferi's Realm}}

lol, that is pretty funny. Not sure what I'd be able to take out for it though. I'm still struggling with not being able for {Grand Melee} in :P

{Teferi's Puzzle Box} could be fun, too.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 14, 2013, 10:25:41 PM
Might I ask how much this deck costs?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 15, 2013, 04:26:37 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 14, 2013, 10:25:41 PM
Might I ask how much this deck costs?

It's one of the cheapest (if not the outright cheapest) commander decks I've ever built. Tcg averages the deck at $105. A vast majority of the cards are .50 cents or less.

The only reason it's up to 100 is because of 5 cards in particular - {Scapeshift}, {Idyllic tutor}, {Chaos Warp}, {Thran Dynamo}, and {Homeward Path}. Another 7~ish comes from the shards tri-lands ({Jungle shrine}, etc) if you want to budget the deck, find replacements for these and you'll be down to about $65 for the whole deck.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 18, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
Umm... Oops, I accidentally broke Magic with this deck.

{Endless Whispers} + {Spreading Plague} + 2 creatures that share a color = endless loop.

Whoopsies!

You know I'm going to start doing this on purpose now. :D
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mlerner12 on September 18, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
{Child of Alara} and {Karona, the False God} could be better commanders...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 18, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
Bah, I misread {Endless Whispers} - happens at the end step :( I'm sad now. Still funny, though. Read the card, Gorzo, read the card.

I thought about child and Karona, but settled on Cromat and am happy with my choice. He gives me some much needed self-preservation that Karona does not, and I don't have any need for board wipes with this deck to use Child. No ways to re-use child if I let it go to the graveyard, either. Cromat gives me ground to stand on.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on November 14, 2013, 05:09:48 AM
Bump for Matteo!

I must say, after playing this deck now for a couple months...

It.
Is.
Sooooooo fun.

Half the time it even looks like I'm screwing myself, and I love it.

"Did you just play {Scapeshift} into {Maze's End} and 9 gates, cast {Blood Moon}, and then play the 10th gate?"
"Yep."
"So they're just 11 tapped mountains that can't win you the game?"
"Yep!"
"...Wtf is wrong you?"
"Don't worry about it, it'll be fine."
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on November 14, 2013, 05:10:59 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 14, 2013, 05:09:48 AM
Bump for Matteo!

I must say, after playing this deck now for a couple months...

It.
Is.
Sooooooo fun.

Half the time it even looks like I'm screwing myself, and I love it.

"Did you just play {Scapeshift} into {Maze's End} and 9 gates, cast {Blood Moon}, and then play the 10th gate?"
"Yep."
"So they're just 11 tapped mountains that can't win you the game?"
"Yep!"
"...Wtf is wrong you?"
"Don't worry about it, it'll be fine."

Lol thanks a lot!! Also I haven't checked it out yet is it expensive $wise?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on November 14, 2013, 05:13:19 AM
It's actually pretty dang cheap. Avg $105 on tcg for the whole deck right now. And most of that is going to be from 5-10 cards, a vast majority of this decklist is .25-.50 cent cards.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on November 14, 2013, 05:14:20 AM
Awesome! Then I shall build this deck (with your permission lol) bc I love my Uril deck but its not fun I want a fun deck!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on November 14, 2013, 05:28:39 AM
No permission necessary, just have fun with it!

If you can, make sure to at least once get {Sphere of Safety} up with 7-10 enchantments total (including {Mana Barbs}), then bite the bullet, pay as much life as you need to tap the mana for {Obliterate}, and wait to see how long it takes for everyone to figure out what you just did.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: DYMongoose on November 14, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
This is amazing. I don't have any 5-color commanders, but I think I'd like to try something like this using using maybe Zedruu as the commander. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on November 14, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: DYMongoose on November 14, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
This is amazing. I don't have any 5-color commanders, but I think I'd like to try something like this using using maybe Zedruu as the commander. Thanks for posting!

Zedruu was the original commander I had in mind when I started building this, actually! I eventually found myself needing to add green for much needed mana ramp and fixing, and black for tutors as well as a few super fun enchants like {Endless Whispers}. I settled on {Cromat} for his ease of casting and ultimate defensive powers of regen and destroying anything he blocks, and he's worked wonders for me.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Shadridium on December 04, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
I love this deck!!! I've been running a five color upkeep deck as my "fun" deck and my friend knows I have paradox haze and assemble the legion so I get focused. :( this looks like an infinitely more fun deck and I am deffiently give this a shot.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on December 04, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
May it serve you as we'll as it has been serving me!

I am probably going to have to make a couple tweaks once I finally get to mess with some Commander2013 stuff. {Ranger's Path} is definitely getting replaced by the green Tempting Offer spell. I am probably going to remove {Knowledge Pool} for something more fun and less annoying, too. Possibly another tempting offer.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Silent1236 on December 05, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Honestly considering spending the $100 on this deck hahaha. {Chaos Lord} is hilarious. Can attack as if it has haste, except if it entered the battlefield this turn? Haha
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on December 05, 2013, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on December 05, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Honestly considerin spending the $100 on this deck hahaha. {Chaos Lord} is hilarious. Can attack as if it has haste, except if it entered the battlefield this turn? Haha

I invested in it and let me tell you it is AWESOME!!! Lol if you play it fun it's great but I made adjustments so that it's slightly competitive. Lol I played a 1v1 vs. {Sen Triplets} and he got manascrewed lol so he played a 3 mana spell and was tapped out on my turn I play {sire of insanity} and end lol he discarded a JtMS, {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV} Omniscience and a few other great cards lol next turn I top deck {Sepulchral Primordial} get his {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV} so now he has to pay {1} more per spell and he was already manascrewed lol!

Also add {Door to Nothingness} for even more fun!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Shadridium on December 06, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
How viable is this deck in 1v1, are there any cards you would add to increase its durability.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on December 06, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: Shadridium on December 06, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
How viable is this deck in 1v1, are there any cards you would add to increase its durability.

Very viable! Make some changes to lower the CMC but once you get out some good enchantments its great I play it with {Assemble the Legion} as well as {Sphere of Safety} and it's just great lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: blackychan1 on December 07, 2013, 12:13:22 PM
I'm thinking abou playing this deck with {karona, false god} as the commander......
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on December 07, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on December 07, 2013, 12:13:22 PM
I'm thinking abou playing this deck with {karona, false god} as the commander......

That's what I use! Want me to post my list it's slightly different I have a couple more win cons bc I still do like to win lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on December 07, 2013, 02:59:00 PM
I like Karona a lot, but settled on {Cromat} because he's a champion of a blocker. No 5-color legendary will keep you as safe as Cromat does.

But like Matteo says, Karona is a very viable commander for the deck! You'll probably want to make a few tweaks (as he did) to keep yourself protected, since Cromat is a major defensive player in my version.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on December 07, 2013, 03:01:35 PM
{Assemble the legion} + {Zedru the Greathearted} is a combo that I recommend to all every turn donate x soldiers then you get y more to defend and draw x cards and gain x life there's just too many great combos!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on December 07, 2013, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 07, 2013, 03:01:35 PM
{Assemble the legion} + {Zedru the Greathearted} is a combo that I recommend to all every turn donate x soldiers then you get y more to defend and draw x cards and gain x life there's just too many great combos!!

Honestly I should add Assembe the Legion right now, I don't know why I don't have it in. Pretty sure I have one in a trade binder somewhere - goodbye knowledge pool.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on December 07, 2013, 03:06:59 PM
That's what I took out too! Lol it's just too confusing for me but it works amazing with possibility storm as now I have a knowledge pool and they have to pos. storm lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 05:34:20 AM
Bump for Machete and Spencer!

Also an update! Made a few swaps:
- {Conjured Currency} (sad face:()
+{Whims of the Fates} (Wheeeee!)

-{Tide of War}
+{Witch Hunt}

-{Thieve's Auction} (just too annoying, as chaotic and funny as it is. And it took way too long)
+{Mystic Barrier}
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Spencer Addington on February 22, 2014, 05:37:03 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 05:34:20 AM
Bump for Machete and Spencer!

Also an update! Made a few swaps:
- {Conjured Currency} (sad face:()
+{Whims of the Fates} (Wheeeee!)

-{Tide of War}
+{Witch Hunt}

-{Thieve's Auction} (just too annoying, as chaotic and funny as it is. And it took way too long)
+{Mystic Barrier}
Thank ye kindly gorzo :))
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
This is awesome!!!

Do you mind if I steal this idea a bit?  :P

I love playing annoying and hilarious decks, so I think this one should be fun. :D
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 22, 2014, 10:20:52 AM
What about some additions like:

{Greater Auramancy}
{Command Tower}
{Plea for Guidance}

Some other infinite combos so you have more of a chance of winning.

Also, what would you suggest if I wanted to tweak this to be able to play it in a smaller game? (3-4 people, maybe)

Oh! And what about {Pyxis of Pandemonium}? That would be very fun!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: MacheteMable on February 22, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
I like it. Kinda like what I'm trying to do.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
This is awesome!!!

Do you mind if I steal this idea a bit?  :P

I love playing annoying and hilarious decks, so I think this one should be fun. :D

I don't mind at all! I'm honored when people like my crazy ideas enough to play them for themselves :)

All good card suggestions as well.

Honestly {Command Tower} could just replace {Vivid Crag} (it's important to keep the basics the way they are due to the land searches and {Blood Moon}). The reasons I didn't include it originally were A) I didn't have any towers on hand at the time, B) I wanted to keep the decklist cheap and command tower is pretty expensive (for this deck, anyway, which only has 5 or 6 cards at $5 or more), and C) my vivid crag is foil, which is so shiny and pretty! Wheeeeee! :P but now that the deck is built, and I have a couple of 2013 towers, I'll probably make the swap.

The Born tutor for two enchants is really nice. But it's a lot of mana and I don't know what I'd take out for it.

{Greater Auramancy} would be great. I need to get a copy of it. It was originally excluded due to cost, and not a massive impact, as I was trying to keep the budget down. But now that the deck is complete.... I can definitely see trading for a copy and swapping out {Puca's Mischief} for it.

As for the Pyxis...i considered it. But It seemed too annoying and too dangerous to activate unless I happen to have {insurrection} ready. So I opt not to include it.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on February 22, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
{Reins of Power} seems good here
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: MacheteMable on February 22, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Okay Gorzo, you have me convinced on 5 color for this insanity.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 22, 2014, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
This is awesome!!!

Do you mind if I steal this idea a bit?  :P

I love playing annoying and hilarious decks, so I think this one should be fun. :D

I don't mind at all! I'm honored when people like my crazy ideas enough to play them for themselves :)

All good card suggestions as well.

Honestly {Command Tower} could just replace {Vivid Crag} (it's important to keep the basics the way they are due to the land searches and {Blood Moon}). The reasons I didn't include it originally were A) I didn't have any towers on hand at the time, B) I wanted to keep the decklist cheap and command tower is pretty expensive (for this deck, anyway, which only has 5 or 6 cards at $5 or more), and C) my vivid crag is foil, which is so shiny and pretty! Wheeeeee! :P but now that the deck is built, and I have a couple of 2013 towers, I'll probably make the swap.

The Born tutor for two enchants is really nice. But it's a lot of mana and I don't know what I'd take out for it.

{Greater Auramancy} would be great. I need to get a copy of it. It was originally excluded due to cost, and not a massive impact, as I was trying to keep the budget down. But now that the deck is complete.... I can definitely see trading for a copy and swapping out {Puca's Mischief} for it.

As for the Pyxis...i considered it. But It seemed too annoying and too dangerous to activate unless I happen to have {insurrection} ready. So I opt not to include it.
Awesome, I got {Scapeshift} and a {Howling Mine} at a draft today. Is commander tower from commander 2013 expensive now? It shouldn't be too bad any more.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on February 22, 2014, 09:37:51 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 22, 2014, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
This is awesome!!!

Do you mind if I steal this idea a bit?  :P

I love playing annoying and hilarious decks, so I think this one should be fun. :D

I don't mind at all! I'm honored when people like my crazy ideas enough to play them for themselves :)

All good card suggestions as well.

Honestly {Command Tower} could just replace {Vivid Crag} (it's important to keep the basics the way they are due to the land searches and {Blood Moon}). The reasons I didn't include it originally were A) I didn't have any towers on hand at the time, B) I wanted to keep the decklist cheap and command tower is pretty expensive (for this deck, anyway, which only has 5 or 6 cards at $5 or more), and C) my vivid crag is foil, which is so shiny and pretty! Wheeeeee! :P but now that the deck is built, and I have a couple of 2013 towers, I'll probably make the swap.

The Born tutor for two enchants is really nice. But it's a lot of mana and I don't know what I'd take out for it.

{Greater Auramancy} would be great. I need to get a copy of it. It was originally excluded due to cost, and not a massive impact, as I was trying to keep the budget down. But now that the deck is complete.... I can definitely see trading for a copy and swapping out {Puca's Mischief} for it.

As for the Pyxis...i considered it. But It seemed too annoying and too dangerous to activate unless I happen to have {insurrection} ready. So I opt not to include it.
Awesome, I got {Scapeshift} and a {Howling Mine} at a draft today. Is commander tower from commander 2013 expensive now? It shouldn't be too bad any more.

I run this deck and trust me TRUST ME {Scape shift into a {Mazes End} victory is just so funny. (I've never done it BUT I had all 10 gates and Mazes End but before I could win (bc it enters tapped) my "friend" killed me lol but still awesome times!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
C) my vivid crag is foil, which is so shiny and pretty! Wheeeeee! :P
Mine is too. :D Shiny! So I'm not sure if I want shiny awesomeness or command tower strictly betterness. Hmm. Decisions decisions. :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 23, 2014, 06:33:18 AM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 22, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
{Reins of Power} seems good here

Hmm, it could be. Kind of like a little mini {insurrection}! "Excuse me, friend, I need to borrow your creatures for a minute and ram them into that other guy and his defenses without any regards for safety whatsoever. Here, you can cuddle with {Cromat} for a little bit in the meantime - isn't he cute?" :P I might have to toy with this.

Quote from: E.kann1 on February 22, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 22, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
C) my vivid crag is foil, which is so shiny and pretty! Wheeeeee! :P
Mine is too. :D Shiny! So I'm not sure if I want shiny awesomeness or command tower strictly betterness. Hmm. Decisions decisions. :P

The decision was a lot harder when I just didn't have any {Command Tower}s to put in ;) Now that I do, I can move the foil Vivid to another deck and replace it with the tower. I might want to add {Opal Palace}, too, making my super defensive master Cromat even more powerful after board wipes finally get him.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 23, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
Replace {Taurean mauler} with {reins of power}?

Or am I taking out too many of the already non-existent win conditions? :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on February 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 23, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
Replace {Taurean mauler} with {reins of power}?

Or am I taking out too many of the already non-existent win conditions? :P

The point of this deck (for me anyway) is to almost never win. The point for me is to disrupt (in a fun way) all the broken decks and to just laugh. My madness deck which was derived from this deck (thank you Gorzo!) has 3 win cons non are good lol
Wincon #1: {Mazes End} and {Scapeshift}
Wincon #2: {Door to Nothingness} lol
Wincon #3: {Karona False God} (my general) and {Assemble the Legion} lol

So basically this deck is just for shits lol survive until you can play {Warp World} lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on February 23, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Omg, I'm doing something like this, this is amazing! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou :-* (Blows kisses)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 23, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 23, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Omg, I'm doing something like this, this is amazing! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou :-* (Blows kisses)
i'm extremely sorry to be off topic, but mishra, could you check your pm's?  I think I'm only missing yours to go on to the next wall draft pack.

Sorry again, gorzo and everyone.

Also, what about {akroan horse} and {djinn of infinite deceits}?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Tbone on February 23, 2014, 11:03:04 PM
(dovescape) is a realy fun way to mess up a game lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 24, 2014, 01:41:51 AM
If {Dovescape} didn't ruin my ability to cast all of my crazy enchantments, I'd probably use it :P it is a fun card. Unfortunately it would completely kill my own ability to cast anything.

I'm not sure that {Akroan Horse} has a big enough impact, but I do love {Djinn of Infinite Deceits}. Especially after {Assemble the Legion} is out - take any creature in exchange for a 1/1 soldier! Hmm, how can I squeeze that in...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:16:40 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 24, 2014, 01:41:51 AM
I'm not sure that {Akroan Horse} has a big enough impact, but I do love {Djinn of Infinite Deceits}. Especially after {Assemble the Legion} is out - take any creature in exchange for a 1/1 soldier! Hmm, how can I squeeze that in...
Yep, that's what I was thinking :)

It's also good for .politics. to convict people not to kill you.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?

It's by far my favourite card in my version of this!!!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?

It's by far my favourite card in my version of this!!!!
Fifth dawn flavor text is brutal. First time I read it, I felt like someone had punched me right in the emotions.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?

It's by far my favourite card in my version of this!!!!
Fifth dawn flavor text is brutal. First time I read it, I felt like someone had punched me right in the emotions.

Oh wow
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 24, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
Why don't I have door to nothingness in here? I honestly can't think of a reason why not. I'll have to squeeze it in, too!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 24, 2014, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?

It's by far my favourite card in my version of this!!!!
Fifth dawn flavor text is brutal. First time I read it, I felt like someone had punched me right in the emotions.

Oh wow
Just noticed that as well. wow...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on February 24, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 24, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
What about {Door to Nothingness}?

It's by far my favourite card in my version of this!!!!
Fifth dawn flavor text is brutal. First time I read it, I felt like someone had punched me right in the emotions.

Oh wow
Just noticed that as well. wow...

Memnarch is awesome. He's like The Master in Doctor Who only he is an artifact creature
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 05:10:29 AM
So...

Cards I want to add:
{Greater Auramancy}
{Reins of Power}
{Door to Nothingness}
{Djinn of Infinite Deceits}
{Crucible of Worlds}
{Veldaken Orrery}

But what can I cut to add these 6?

{Puca's Mischief} is one. It usually isn't doing much for me. Maybe {Timesifter} for another? I love the hilarity and randomness of the card, but all of the exiling hurts me as well. What else can I cut? I don't really want to cut {Taurean Mauler}. I just really like him, and he's great for playing defensive.

I'll also be swapping a couple lands.
-Forest
-{Vivid Crag}

+{Opal Palace}
+{Command Tower}

Need help! What can I cut?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 25, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
How useful are the different vows? ({vow of flight}, etc)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on February 25, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
How useful are the different vows? ({vow of flight}, etc)

It's hard to say. They're hit or miss, but to the extreme. When they hit, they completely save my life. When they miss, they're a waste of a card. And they seem to be pretty evenly split at about 50/50 when it comes to how often they hit and miss. I can probably cut one ({Vow of malice}, black is my weakest/least common color) but I'm not sure how many more I can cut without making myself more vulnerable
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on February 25, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
If you could cut one for some of the stuff you wanted to add, that might be good.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Tbone on February 27, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
Karona the fals god would be a fun general works kinda like coat of arms mixed with chaos lord
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on February 27, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Tbone on February 27, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
Karona the fals god would be a fun general works kinda like coat of arms mixed with chaos lord

That's the general that I chose :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 04, 2014, 08:11:45 AM
Bumped for reasons! :)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Munchlax on July 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
I need to keep looking at this so I'm bumping it
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattao19 on July 16, 2014, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on July 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
I need to keep looking at this so I'm bumping it

I run this deck in the form of {Karona the True God} so if you any questions ask me! :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 21, 2014, 05:39:59 AM
Bump for DimirOverlord
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on August 21, 2014, 08:20:22 AM
I've been slowly building this, looking forward to when it's complete!

Also, I added {chromanticore} because WHY NOT, and {perplexing chimera}, which is actually useful. The chromanticore doesn't do much and takes up a card slot but the chimera is hilarious. I'd consider it.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 21, 2014, 04:18:49 PM
Perplexing Chimera is really funny. What would I take out, though? Another vow, maybe?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on August 21, 2014, 04:37:01 PM
Maybe, those seem so hit or miss and die when board wipes happen. Plus you shouldn't be that much of a target...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Dudecore on August 21, 2014, 06:06:11 PM
Perplexing chimera is a bunch of fun. Just remember to come armed with your advanced rules knowledge. Especially if Chimera double triggers, and who gets control of him and the redirect. I run him in Roon, and I've had to explain it in great detail.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on August 22, 2014, 06:58:35 PM
{Goblin Test Pilot} + {Serendib Sorcerer} is a cool combo. Kill any creature the test pilot hits. :)
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on August 23, 2014, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 22, 2014, 06:58:35 PM
{Goblin Test Pilot} + {Serendib Sorcerer} is a cool combo. Kill any creature the test pilot hits. :)

That's what I use {Mannichi, the Fevered Dream} for :P oh, what's that you have? Ulamog? Well, now he's an 0/2. And now he's a 2/0 and dead. Goodbye indestructible Eldrazi god, go suck a lemon!

Updated. I'm definitely adding Perplexing Chimera, probably taking out a Vow.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on August 23, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
Thanks for updating!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on September 05, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Bump on request.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Spencer Addington on September 05, 2014, 09:29:00 PM
I'm so building this.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 06, 2014, 05:17:51 AM
It really is a lot of fun. I'm considering foiling it as much as I can. I wish I could get a foil Cromat, he's just so cute!

I do NOT want to shell out the cash for a foil {Scapeshift} though lol
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Dudecore on September 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
They made a foil {Cromat}, it's $20.

As for {Scapeshift}, that's about $40. It's not crazy considering you want to foil a deck out.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on September 07, 2014, 01:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
They made a foil {Cromat}, it's $20.

As for {Scapeshift}, that's about $40. It's not crazy considering you want to foil a deck out.

There is a foil Cromat? Yay! I'll have to find one!

Yeah, $40 isn't too bad, but my budget is pretty tight. I don't like spending that much on singles - but that is in potential trade range. I'd just have to find someone with one for trade.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on October 15, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
I hate to bump old threads, but I just want to say I spent $60 to buy the rest of the deck that I didn't have and am SUPER EXCITED!!

To be slightly helpful, what do you think of the new tri-lands? So far I've replaced crumbling necropolis with the new Jeskai monastery, whatever it's called.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gocougs509 on October 15, 2014, 09:25:33 PM
Pyxis DEFINITELY deserves a spot here...that card is just so much fun and so chaotic and it's cheap! Perfect card for this kind of deck
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on October 16, 2014, 04:27:06 AM
I'll definitely have to tinker with the tri-lands now that khans gives me more options. I'd love to put all 10 in, but I really need the basics for all the land grab spells and/or {blood moon}.

{Pyxis of Pandemonium} was one of those cards that I wanted to use, but it just couldn't make the cut. It got edged out because of how slow it is if you want it to actually have a big effect. Plus I have a lot of non-permanents, so it very well may hurt me more than help me.

Sadly nothing very chaotic has been made since {Perplexing Chimera}... So nothing new to add to the deck that I can think of :(
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: VQMracing on October 17, 2014, 03:06:38 AM
Posting here because reasons. Haha
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on October 17, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
{grip of chaos} reminds me, oddly, of the Joker. Just takes peoples' plans, and turns them upside down.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on October 21, 2014, 08:29:51 PM
Seeing a pile of unsleeved proxies and thieve's auction, endless whispers, scrambleverse, etc all sitting in my deck box makes me happy...
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on October 22, 2014, 03:12:04 AM
Oh you monster, you put {thieves auction} back in? You cruel, cruel man.

I love the spell... It's hilarious... But people really groan and hate it when it happens. I've had entire games scoop because they didn't want to spent the time drafting everything. It really does take a long time... So I ended up cutting it for something less agitating :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on October 22, 2014, 06:49:37 AM
I'm going to see how it goes and then decide. Chances are it won't resolve when I cast anyway, and sometime like a {warp world} will happen instead :P
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Gorzo on November 23, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
Bump for Jamb.

Any of the new commander cards a good fit for this deck?
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on November 23, 2014, 08:58:15 PM
{Blood Feud} all day!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on November 23, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
No wait that's not it. Let me look up what I really mean.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Ekann1 on November 23, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
{Bitter Feud}.

Also, I thought anyone dealing damage to one of the players would just deal it to the other. So maybe it's not as good as I thought.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
Bumping for research.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Kaylesh on June 01, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
Bumping for research.
Ty for bump. Building a Bolas chaos (RUB), this really helps me with ideas. Though mine will have more of a mean streak because well, Bolas flavour.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 01, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
Bumping for research.
Ty for bump. Building a Bolas chaos (RUB), this really helps me with ideas. Though mine will have more of a mean streak because well, Bolas flavour.
Lol, sounds fun.
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: rarehuntertay on June 01, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Lord Bolas does not approve of you calling his colors "RUB"... He prefers...
No!! Save me!!! ...
🐉
Chomp!!!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: Mattacheu on November 30, 2015, 08:59:36 AM
Bump for reference!
Title: Re: Total Madness
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on February 23, 2016, 12:13:03 AM
Bumping for selfish purposes (or reference)