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Title: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 08:03:16 PM
Does the {Wrath of God} effect belong in white with {Wrath of God} or in black with {Damnation}?
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: All-Mana Mania on August 26, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
DAMNATION!!!
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Xaol on August 26, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Flavour-wise, it works in either.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
{Wrath of God} is an icon, {Damnation} is a mimic.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: NyghtHawk on August 26, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
{Wrath of God} is an icon, {Damnation} is a mimic.
A mimic that's worth more money :P
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on August 26, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
{Wrath of God} is an icon, {Damnation} is a mimic.
A mimic that's worth more money :P

Only because {Wrath of God} has been printed in like 14 sets while {Damnation} has only been printed once.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on August 26, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
{Wrath of God} is an icon, {Damnation} is a mimic.
A mimic that's worth more money :P

Also 3 editions (Alpha, Beta and Alternate 4th) of {Wrath of God} cost more than {Damnation} one of them is worth like 12 times what {Damnation} is worth.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: NyghtHawk on August 26, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on August 26, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 26, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
{Wrath of God} is an icon, {Damnation} is a mimic.
A mimic that's worth more money :P

Also 3 editions (Alpha, Beta and Alternate 4th) of {Wrath of God} cost more than {Damnation} one of them is worth like 12 times what {Damnation} is worth.
Obviously lol but my point is that you can't get a damnation cheap. Wrath you can. Sets be damned. Still the point.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: All-Mana Mania on August 26, 2013, 10:25:34 PM
I like damnation more than wrath. I say this because wrath doesn't sound as cool as damnation. Lol
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 26, 2013, 11:04:22 PM
Black is about power not about cleansing. Sure death comes with black power but the cleansing type effect of wrath is very white. Sacrificing an pin point killing is much more black. 
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on August 26, 2013, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on August 26, 2013, 11:04:22 PM
Black is about power not about cleansing. Sure death comes with black power but the cleansing type effect of wrath is very white. Sacrificing an pin point killing is much more black.
That's why I like {Damnation} it is a board wipe that black doesn't have.  And to have it as a near copy of Wrath, is good, because this is not an effect any black deck has.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Vampyvyrus on August 26, 2013, 11:13:18 PM
I'd have to give this to white as opposed to black. Black is more spot removal. Also there's a reason they never reprinted damnation
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: All-Mana Mania on August 26, 2013, 11:19:23 PM
They never reprinted damnation because that set was to put cards in different colors. Like people in different shoes. Damnation was one of them. The reason I like damnation is because its the only black board wipe an a solid one.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Mizark on August 27, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
I love them both, but flavor wise, i would say White for one reason:

"Damnation" could be a White card and still be flavorful while Wrath of God could not be Black since it only fits with White flavor
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Wally on August 27, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
How quickly everyone forgets the power of {Mutilate}?
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: IntoFire on August 27, 2013, 05:24:28 AM
Well, right now in Extended,the main wrath colors are {W}{B}{R} i.e.({Wrath of God},{Damnation},{Blasphemous Act}).
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Dudecore on August 27, 2013, 10:17:29 AM
Wrath effects belong in White.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 27, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
The only reason black got damnation was because the set is called planar chaos. It breaks the color pie. However I secretly hope for damnation.....
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Bozo_Law on August 27, 2013, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 27, 2013, 05:24:28 AM
Well, right now in Extended,the main wrath colors are {W}{B}{R} i.e.({Wrath of God},{Damnation},{Blasphemous Act}).

Damnation and Wrath of God are not in extended lol
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 27, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
Last time I checked, no cards were in extended. ;)
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Gorzo on August 27, 2013, 02:40:17 PM
They both fit, in my opinion.

White - order/cleansing. The battlefield is made pure and clean.

Black - death/darkness, strength by any means. Slaughter everything in sight, even your allies, if it benefits you.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 27, 2013, 04:46:01 PM
My question is... Where does blue fit in? I mean,  {Supreme Verdict}?
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Deebiia on August 27, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Wally on August 27, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
How quickly everyone forgets the power of {Mutilate}?
I know right!
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 27, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on August 27, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Wally on August 27, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
How quickly everyone forgets the power of {Mutilate}?
I know right!

Most competitive decks in almost all formats right now are multicolor so {Mutilate} is an iffy card and {Damnation} and {Wrath of God} are both better options at this point.
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: IntoFire on August 27, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
All three Wrath colors have theor own ways p clearing the feild

{W} - White talks about purity and honor and destroys anythig that does harm to it.(i.e. {Wrath of God}, {Akroma's Fury}, {Planar Cleansing},{Day of Judgement})

{B} - Black does it the form of counters. (i.e. {Mutilate})

{R} - Red does it by burning everything.(i.e. {Blasphemous Act},{Worldfire})
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: Renanpf on August 27, 2013, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 27, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
All three Wrath colors have theor own ways p clearing the feild

{W} - White talks about purity and honor and destroys anythig that does harm to it.(i.e. {Wrath of God}, {Akroma's Fury}, {Planar Cleansing},{Day of Judgement})

{B} - Black does it the form of counters. (i.e. {Mutilate})

{R} - Red does it by burning everything.(i.e. {Blasphemous Act},{Worldfire})
And blue does it all by {mana leaking}! 0/ (blue douchebag)
Title: Re: Wrath VS. Damn
Post by: IntoFire on August 28, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: Renanpf on August 27, 2013, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 27, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
All three Wrath colors have theor own ways p clearing the feild

{W} - White talks about purity and honor and destroys anythig that does harm to it.(i.e. {Wrath of God}, {Akroma's Fury}, {Planar Cleansing},{Day of Judgement})

{B} - Black does it the form of counters. (i.e. {Mutilate})

{R} - Red does it by burning everything.(i.e. {Blasphemous Act},{Worldfire})
And blue does it all by {mana leaking}! 0/ (blue douchebag)

I would think {Syncopate} fits the description of mana-leaking more.