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Title: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 20, 2013, 04:01:16 PM
I'll Take It From Here v1.3

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Temple Garden}
4 {Sacred Foundry}
4 {Breeding Pool}
4 {Hallowed Fountain}
2 {Stomping Ground}
2 {Sunpetal Grove}
3 {Desolate Lighthouse}
1 {Mutavault}

24 lands


1 {Stormtide Leviathan}
2 {Thragtusk}

3 creatures


4 {Abundant Growth}
4 {Mana Bloom}
4 {Blind Obedience}
2 {Oblivion Ring}
2 {Detention Sphere}
4 {Supreme Verdict}
2 {Curse of Exhaustion}
3 {Possibility Storm}
4 {Sphere of Safety}
4 {Terminus}

33 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Silence}
2 {Pithing Needle}
3 {Rest in Peace}
1 {Nevermore}
2 {Garruk Relentless}
1 {Ral Zarek}
1 {Possibility Storm}
1 {Ring of Three Wishes}
1 {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Combo deck. 4 color enchantments
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 20, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
I don't know why another post was made???

Quote from: bravado883 on August 20, 2013, 11:55:37 AM
It's an interesting idea, although I see a few "problem" scenarios (I say "problem" in quotes since, if these occur, it won't always be a big deal, but sometimes it might):
All of these occur if {Possibility Storm} is out:

You need to wrath, and you storm into {Farseek}. 
Sometimes, although this is more narrow, you NEED to {Terminus} and hit {Supreme Verdict}.
You cast an enchantment and storm into a {Detention Sphere} or {Oblivion Ring} with no legal targets. 
You cast an enchantment and storm into {Mana Bloom}.

I say these won't always be a problem since, thankfully, {Possibility Storm} has a "may" clause, but it's still the waste of a turn if you storm into something either useless or detrimental.  It's a weird card, and it's a beast against control decks, but it is significantly worse against aggro (since most of the time they'll cast a creature and just storm into another, maybe even better, creature).  I suppose you can just board out the {Possibility Storm}s in the aggro matchup though.  It's a sweet idea regardless, and this enchantment version is probably going to get better with the release of Theros.

He's right that little farseek issue was making lose far more often than I liked. Addressed. And yes I'm very looking forward to Theros for this deck
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Pirate John on August 20, 2013, 05:07:39 PM
We're losing curse of exhaustion and terminus though :(

Might have to run 4 cyclonic rifts or something if another boardwipe isn't printed
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Pirate John on August 20, 2013, 05:55:29 PM
{planar cleansing} would work if it didn't break all the enchantments on the field as well
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 20, 2013, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on August 20, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
We still have {Supreme Verdict} and {Planar Cleansing} but another "alternate" wrath would be super nice.  I'm not sure it will be a huge deal though, for the following reasons:

1) Wraths are AWESOME right now because so many decks focus on jamming tons of fragile creatures onto the board.
2) Most of those decks will be significantly changed post-rotation, some will disappear entirely without support from new Theros additions.  I'm looking at you R/G aggro, Mono Red Aggro, and Bant Hexproof.  All of these decks will lose significant components with rotation.
3) Theros is touted as an enchantment-heavy block, so we should reasonably be able to expect that at least some decks will begin to run more enchantments, which means either less room for instants/sorceries or less room for creatures.  Again, this is under the assumption that the hyper-aggro decks and hexproof decks won't get cards analogous to the important ones that are rotating; namely {Geist of Saint Traft}, {Thundermaw Hellkite}, {Hellrider}, {Invisible Stalker}, and to a lesser extent {Strangleroot Geist} and {Flinthoof Boar}.  Not to mention that Bant may or may not be viable without the buddy lands, again depending on what we get in Theros.

If I'm right, the result is that spot removal gets WAY better, while wraths become slightly more narrow, as we all hate to Verdict away one or two guys unless we have to.  That being said, {Planar Cleansing} also becomes better, and if the format slows down enough, it may see wider play.  Sorry, that was quite a rant!

No no no, rants are always welcome. And from the looks of it you know your stuff. I play bant enchantments with a splash of black I can tell you that I know exactly what you're talking about. Planar Cleansing just doesn't work in this deck unless I take out the enchantment defense aspect of it and add Black to play {sanguine bond} and {exquisite blood}. Which is definitely on my mind but we'll see how this does after tomorrow nights WNM
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Pirate John on August 20, 2013, 11:48:30 PM
5 bucks say they make a boardwipe that destroys all non-land and non-legendary permanents.
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 21, 2013, 08:11:11 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on August 20, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
I was just musing in general on what wraths might be good post-rotation.  I would most definitely NOT suggest {Planar Cleansing} for this build!  No {Devastation Tide} for the same reason.  {Merciless Eviction} is still a spicy number, and it's nice that it does a few different things, but it appears that black is the one color you don't have.  I do hope we get some sort of sweet other wrath in Theros though.

Hadn't considered merciless eviction and my first impression is too much mana to cast if needed, but if the creature decks are too strong against me I'm going to have to make it work.

I've also thought about using an instant like  {Cyclonic Rift} but I need to know if I get it through Storm, if can I can use it for the overload cost without paying the overload cost of course.
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Pirate John on August 21, 2013, 08:17:26 AM
You're right. You can't cast it overloaded because you aren't paying its overload cost.

You'd have to hard cast it :/
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Lyriczulu on August 21, 2013, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on August 21, 2013, 08:11:11 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on August 20, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
I was just musing in general on what wraths might be good post-rotation.  I would most definitely NOT suggest {Planar Cleansing} for this build!  No {Devastation Tide} for the same reason.  {Merciless Eviction} is still a spicy number, and it's nice that it does a few different things, but it appears that black is the one color you don't have.  I do hope we get some sort of sweet other wrath in Theros though.

Hadn't considered merciless eviction and my first impression is too much mana to cast if needed, but if the creature decks are too strong against me I'm going to have to make it work.

I've also thought about using an instant like  {Cyclonic Rift} but I need to know if I get it through Storm, if can I can use it for the overload cost without paying the overload cost of course.

{Possibility Storm} doesn't let's you pay alternate/additional costs for the spell so you won't be able to overload it.
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 21, 2013, 01:40:32 PM
Replaced the leviathan with {elderscale wurm}, now RDW can suck it. The deck feels bulletproof.

Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Pirate John on August 21, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
Needs unblockable/unpreventable win con though. What if he just kills the wurm? :(
Title: Re: I'll Take It From Here (Pillow Fort+Possibility Storm)
Post by: Jdogtoocool on August 21, 2013, 03:06:44 PM
If they cast a kill spell and reveal a kill spell then it was just meant to be. Plus red deck wins doesn't play kill spells unless they splash black. They'd need a {searing spear} and a {mizzium mortars} to take out the wurm and a 2 for 1 is fine with me