Hey everyone! So, Avacyn Restored is just a few months away, do, what do you all think the Avacyn card should be (and be realistic about it), or should there even be one at all?
If she's not an epic angel I will 😭
I can see wizards making her the new {Akroma, Angel of Wrath}. And worth about $50.00 USD. But I'll try to get her in some random booster, like I got {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed} in a $2.00 6 card pack :3
Plainswalker Avecyn
[+4 ] creatures you control gain lifelink and deathtouch until end of turn
[-3 ] put a +1/+1 counter On each creature you control
[-10] you get an emblem which says creatures you control get +3/+3 and flying.
Starts with 4 loyalty counters
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Plainswalker Avecyn
[+4 ] creatures you control gain lifelink and deathtouch until end of turn
[-3 ] put a +1/+1 counter On each creature you control
[-10] you get an emblem which says creatures you control get +3/+3 and flying.
Starts with 4 loyalty counters
Op much?
I'm thinkin she'll be a legendary creature
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Plainswalker Avecyn
[+4 ] creatures you control gain lifelink and deathtouch until end of turn
[-3 ] put a +1/+1 counter On each creature you control
[-10] you get an emblem which says creatures you control get +3/+3 and flying.
Starts with 4 loyalty counters
CMC? It looks B/W due to the {Vault of the Archangel} + Ability.
Personally, I'd want her to be a creature, more epic than {Baneslayer Angel}, and on par with White Akroma. CMC of WW3 See what I did there? The WW would make her slightly harder to splash as well. I would prefer a White Fatty over another White PW.
On a side note! I want to see more dual-enemy-colored PWs! I.E. U/R, B/G, R/W, (only if they reprint {Ajani Vengeant}) G/U, we already have {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} as our W/B. I just hope they don't make a stupid U/R one. Then U/R Delver will be nuts! We all know there will be at least 1 PW though, I'm rooting for 2! Zendikar block got six! All I know is that Avacyn Restored is going to be hectic, it's a god damn full set!
3WWW
Legendary creature - angel
5/5
As long as you control an human, all your creatures have +1/+1 and lifelink(yes, this includes avacyn)
As long as you control a spirit, all your creatures have protection from zombies, werewolves and vampires(again, including this angel)
As long as you control an human and a spirit, all other creatures you control have hexproof
When does spoiler season start?
Quote from: Mentonin on March 08, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
3WWW
Legendary creature - angel
5/5
As long as you control an human, all your creatures have +1/+1 and lifelink(yes, this includes avacyn)
As long as you control a spirit, all your creatures have protection from zombies, werewolves and vampires(again, including this angel)
As long as you control an human and a spirit, all other creatures you control have hexproof
And she has Flying
That's OP sonny boy! I like it! W/W Human Souls? Splash a little Black for {Lingering Souls}. Run Token Gen. Damn! I want this to be real now!
If it's a planeswalker I call it having integration with {Helvault}.
See I have a huge feeling it's gonna be a plainswalker. Seriously. Also the enemy and alled plains walkers will probably happen during the revisit to ravnica the rumor mill is on about
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Plainswalker Avecyn
[+4 ] creatures you control gain lifelink and deathtouch until end of turn
[-3 ] put a +1/+1 counter On each creature you control
[-10] you get an emblem which says creatures you control get +3/+3 and flying.
Starts with 4 loyalty counters
Also cmc is ww3 or maybe even 2wwb to make things interesting
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
See I have a huge feeling it's gonna be a plainswalker. Seriously. Also the enemy and alled plains walkers will probably happen during the revisit to ravnica the rumor mill is on about
Yeah, before Innistrad was a for sure Plane, the speculation was that the new block was going to be a revisited Ravnica. I would personally love it! And it would make sense, seeing as how that's where Ral Zerek is from, isn't it?
Quote from: Mentonin on March 08, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
3WWW
Legendary creature - angel
5/5
As long as you control an human, all your creatures have +1/+1 and lifelink(yes, this includes avacyn)
As long as you control a spirit, all your creatures have protection from zombies, werewolves and vampires(again, including this angel)
As long as you control an human and a spirit, all other creatures you control have hexproof
This would be sick. I kinda think you are right on track to. I just hope the other colors will be able to balance out if they print something this ridiculously awesome for one color.
I want avacyn to be a goblin😌
Or green.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 08, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
See I have a huge feeling it's gonna be a plainswalker. Seriously. Also the enemy and alled plains walkers will probably happen during the revisit to ravnica the rumor mill is on about
Yeah, before Innistrad was a for sure Plane, the speculation was that the new block was going to be a revisited Ravnica. I would personally love it! And it would make sense, seeing as how that's where Ral Zerek is from, isn't it?
As I've said before, I really think we will see U/G and U/R planeswalkers next set. The ones from DotP It will segue to the next block.
I believe that the booklet that comes with the DA fat pack mentioned that Aorin created Avacyn as well as the religion that surrounds her, so I'm guessing she will be a legendary spirit or illusion. Just my two cents.
Quote from: Sai on March 09, 2012, 12:06:58 AM
I believe that the booklet that comes with the DA fat pack mentioned that Aorin created Avacyn as well as the religion that surrounds her, so I'm guessing she will be a legendary spirit or illusion. Just my two cents.
Yes Sorin did create her. So that led me to think she could be BW legendary angel.
2BWW
4/4 Flying and First Strike
T: create a 2/2 white flying angel token.
Her whole backstory has her locking horns with demons and devils and trapping them in {Helvault}. I think she is going to be a Legendary Angel that is demon-proof or exiles creatures.
Can't wait for the Helvault to blow!
Quote from: BlackJester on March 09, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
Her whole backstory has her locking horns with demons and devils and trapping them in {Helvault}. I think she is going to be a Legendary Angel that is demon-proof or exiles creatures.
Can't wait for the Helvault to blow!
I like that idea.
I am still pulling for a plainswalker
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 09, 2012, 01:43:05 AM
I am still pulling for a plainswalker
Wizards have stated a long time ago that angels can't be plainswalkers because they are created beings. They are not born.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 08, 2012, 07:08:56 PM
If she's not an epic angel I will 😭
If she's not {Akroma, Angel of Wrath} epic ... 💔
(I would love her to have built in {Akroma's Memorial} ability too, but that'd be WAY OP😔)
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 09, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 09, 2012, 01:43:05 AM
I am still pulling for a plainswalker
Wizards have stated a long time ago that angels can't be plainswalkers because they are created beings. They are not born.
Touche!
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 09, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 09, 2012, 01:43:05 AM
I am still pulling for a plainswalker
Wizards have stated a long time ago that angels can't be plainswalkers because they are created beings. They are not born.
Karn was created by Venser, and he still became a planeswalker.
Quote from: Sai on March 09, 2012, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 09, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 09, 2012, 01:43:05 AM
I am still pulling for a plainswalker
Wizards have stated a long time ago that angels can't be plainswalkers because they are created beings. They are not born.
Karn was created by Venser, and he still became a planeswalker.
Double touche!
Made a minor mistake. It was Urza who created him, not Venser.
Quote from: Sai on March 09, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Made a minor mistake. It was Urza who created him, not Venser.
I know, but the point remains the same. I DO think there is a difference btw Golem that Urza made ('cause he's awesome!) and angels. Karn is like Pinocchio, but you know, cool!
Who's makin' these angels anyhow? ??? :o
Sorin made Avacyn and the religion surrounding her to protect the vampires "food source" from extinction.
Quote from: Mentonin on March 08, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
3WWW
Legendary creature - angel
5/5
As long as you control an human, all your creatures have +1/+1 and lifelink(yes, this includes avacyn)
As long as you control a spirit, all your creatures have protection from zombies, werewolves and vampires(again, including this angel)
As long as you control an human and a spirit, all other creatures you control have hexproof
Too OP? Talk about sorin of DA...
Anyway, let's make her a 1WWWB then, I think it makes it more funny.
Or I have another idea:
4WWW
Legendary creature - angel
Protection from werewolves, vampires, spirits, zombies and demons
All humans you control get +2/+2
WW, T: exile up to 6 permanents(oh yeah, I luv how there is no target) and avacyn. Return each permanent exiled this way to their owners control at the beginning of their respective owners next upkeep. You get 2 life for each human you control exiled this way, and put one 1/1 human soldier token on the battlefield for each zombie, vampire, werewolf or demon put on the battlefield that way
4/5
Karn received his first plainswalker spark by being a legacy weapon. And 1 item was the heart of a plainswalker. The second time venser gave his life and spark to karn to remember who he was.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 09, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
Karn received his first plainswalker spark by being a legacy weapon. And 1 item was the heart of a plainswalker. The second time venser gave his life and spark to karn to remember who he was.
Yeah, he's earned the right to be a PW. I dunno if Sorin can give her a spark...😔
Well, he is a vampiric planeswalker, so he may be able to vamp the spark from someone else and transfer it. Maybe...
I don't think Avacyn will be represented on a card at all. The art is the set art to be used on Fat Packs, Booster Boxes, etc. Unless I'm seeing the card art I'm not convinced.
Quote from: Prophylaxis on March 09, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
I don't think Avacyn will be represented on a card at all. The art is the set art to be used on Fat Packs, Booster Boxes, etc. Unless I'm seeing the card art I'm not convinced.
I saw art of Avacyn descending on a town square.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 09, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on March 09, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
I don't think Avacyn will be represented on a card at all. The art is the set art to be used on Fat Packs, Booster Boxes, etc. Unless I'm seeing the card art I'm not convinced.
I saw art of Avacyn descending on a town square.
I think that art is the set art to be used in Fat Packs, Booster Boxes, etc. It doesn't necessarily mean that art will be on a card. Case in point - In New Phyrexia we saw a cool phyrexianized version of Karn. That art wasn't on any of the cards in the set.
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 08, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Plainswalker Avecyn
[+4 ] creatures you control gain lifelink and deathtouch until end of turn
[-3 ] put a +1/+1 counter On each creature you control
[-10] you get an emblem which says creatures you control get +3/+3 and flying.
Starts with 4 loyalty counters
A bit crazy...
Quote from: Mentonin on March 08, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
3WWW
Legendary creature - angel
5/5
As long as you control an human, all your creatures have +1/+1 and lifelink(yes, this includes avacyn)
As long as you control a spirit, all your creatures have protection from zombies, werewolves and vampires(again, including this angel)
As long as you control an human and a spirit, all other creatures you control have hexproof
That would be awesome!!
Quote from: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 08, 2012, 10:14:53 PM
I want avacyn to be a goblin😌
Avacyn Archangel, Goblin Overlord......?
Subtype goblin angel, lol!!
Quote from: BlackJester on March 09, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
Her whole backstory has her locking horns with demons and devils and trapping them in {Helvault}. I think she is going to be a Legendary Angel that is demon-proof or exiles creatures.
Can't wait for the Helvault to blow!
What if she somehow got trapped IN helvault?
Quote from: darkarts981 on March 10, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on March 09, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
Her whole backstory has her locking horns with demons and devils and trapping them in {Helvault}. I think she is going to be a Legendary Angel that is demon-proof or exiles creatures.
Can't wait for the Helvault to blow!
What if she somehow got trapped IN helvault?
Where do you think she is now?
Srsly, she's in the vault.
Well, my personal opinion is that she should be a flip card, Avacyn on one side, and Griselbrand on the other! The only remaining problem is the legendary rule, because they're the same thing, but they have different names.
Quote from: darkarts981 on March 10, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
Well, my personal opinion is that she should be a flip card, Avacyn on one side, and Griselbrand on the other! The only remaining problem is the legendary rule, because they're the same thing, but they have different names.
Wizards said there will be no flip cards in the next set or flashback cards. It's going to be more like rise of the eldrazi. A stand alone set.
No more DFCs in Avacyn Restored. T_T
Oh, that's really sad! I liked flashback! ðŸ˜
Quote from: darkarts981 on March 10, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Oh, that's really sad! I liked flashback! ðŸ˜
DFC = Double faced card
Idk if flashback will be in AR. My guess is no.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 10, 2012, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on March 10, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
Well, my personal opinion is that she should be a flip card, Avacyn on one side, and Griselbrand on the other! The only remaining problem is the legendary rule, because they're the same thing, but they have different names.
Wizards said there will be no flip cards in the next set or flashback cards. It's going to be more like rise of the eldrazi. A stand alone set.
I know, I was referring to the above
Oops! Sorry dark.
It's fine, it would be easy to misunderstand
She may not be in helvault. She may have become a planeswalker, and be in another plane 😱
Quote from: Mentonin on March 10, 2012, 10:12:44 PM
She may not be in helvault. She may have become a planeswalker, and be in another plane 😱
Story wise is is missing because she is in the {Helvault}.
So, if she is trapped, returning would mean the helvault has to be destroyed? Then, we can probably expect some badass demons and other baddies coming with her?
Quote from: Mentonin on March 10, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
So, if she is trapped, returning would mean the helvault has to be destroyed? Then, we can probably expect some badass demons and other baddies coming with her?
Yeah, probably
Heh heh heh (insert goblin noises here)! Lol
Yep, I'm holding out for some mad Demons!
That would be pretty cool! I wonder if demon will become a good tribal, probably not...
Quote from: darkarts981 on March 11, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
That would be pretty cool! I wonder if demon will become a good tribal, probably not...
That would be rad! But i doubt it. 😔 I've always wanted Demons to be the new Dragons.
Yeah, if only......✨✨✨
Quote from: Spikepit on March 11, 2012, 07:55:48 AM
Yep, I'm holding out for some mad Demons!
I'm holding out for a hero in the morning light. 🎤
Quote from: BlackJester on March 11, 2012, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on March 11, 2012, 07:55:48 AM
Yep, I'm holding out for some mad Demons!
I'm holding out for a hero in the morning light. 🎤
(rolling my eyes right now) Avacyn maybe? 😜