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Title: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Piotr on August 08, 2013, 08:20:22 AM
Should karma source be visible to a Patron, if the Patron is target of that karma?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Apathy Reactor on August 08, 2013, 09:47:57 AM
Not sure, maybe not to a patron, but to a moderator?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:50:10 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 08, 2013, 09:47:57 AM
Not sure, maybe not to a patron, but to a moderator?

That is already the case.

I don't think it's a bad idea, provided that said patrons won't retaliate when they get -1'd. Moderators are expected not to, so I think Patrons should follow suit if given that power.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Apathy Reactor on August 08, 2013, 09:52:37 AM
Oh, we'll I'm not one so I wouldn't know :/
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Vyse on August 08, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
I don't particularly think so, there's enough karma drama as it is, how much can a number matter to someone?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Piotr on August 08, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: Vyse on August 08, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
how much can a number matter to someone?

Enough to pay a dollar a month to see more details about it?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Silent1236 on August 08, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
So the patron would be able to see just their karma, not everyone else's? 

If so, I think I like that idea. They're paying, after all.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Vyse on August 08, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
Quote from: Piotr on August 08, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: Vyse on August 08, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
how much can a number matter to someone?

Enough to pay a dollar a month to see more details about it?
Haha I see your point now, guess it seems like a valid idea.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: MuggyWuggy on August 08, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
Business cat says yes

Make money but drama and karma wars can arise
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Birdbrain on August 08, 2013, 07:20:23 PM
I wouldn't think so. I'm a person that wouldn't feel irritated for someone -1. However, I'm certain there are some people on here who might retaliate if they knew who gave them -1. Some people on here I just don't think they're very mature in that area
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 08, 2013, 07:20:23 PM
I wouldn't think so. I'm a person that wouldn't feel irritated for someone -1. However, I'm certain there are some people on here who might retaliate if they knew who gave them -1. Some people on here I just don't think they're very mature in that area

I agree. This would cause too much drama.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Piotr on August 08, 2013, 08:02:16 PM
Can you afford a dollar a month if you are not very mature?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Birdbrain on August 08, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: Piotr on August 08, 2013, 08:02:16 PM
Can you afford a dollar a month if you are not very mature?
suprisingly yes
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: MuggyWuggy on August 08, 2013, 08:14:15 PM
Some of the worst are blessed with so much abundance they are blinded into being complete asshats.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 08:16:12 PM
I know quite a few moron teenagers whose parents will buy them anything.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 08:54:10 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 08:16:12 PM
I know quite a few moron teenagers whose parents will buy them anything.

I know quite a few moron adults that will buy themselves anything.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
Don't be ageists! ANYONE can be a moron! 😉
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
Don't be ageists! ANYONE can be a moron! 😉

Precisely my point! It is mind numbing when you constantly read "teenagers this, teenagers that."
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
Don't be ageists! ANYONE can be a moron! 😉

Precisely my point! It is mind numbing when you constantly read "teenagers this, teenagers that."

I am a teenager. I realize there are responsible, working, straight-A teenagers (I am one) but there are also spoiled, irresponsible and moronic teenagers (like someone I know...). And there are more of the later than of the former.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 08, 2013, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 08, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
So the patron would be able to see just their karma, not everyone else's? 

If so, I think I like that idea. They're paying, after all.
Very logical. I second this.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Millionlittlee on August 08, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 08, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 08, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
Don't be ageists! ANYONE can be a moron! 😉

Precisely my point! It is mind numbing when you constantly read "teenagers this, teenagers that."

I am a teenager. I realize there are responsible, working, straight-A teenagers (I am one) but there are also spoiled, irresponsible and moronic teenagers (like someone I know...). And there are more of the later than of the former.

I don't like how you split teenagers into two group there are more then that!
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Anoobass on August 08, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
I think as a patron you should be able to see who have you karma, but as stated you should behave as a moderator would and not get into a karma war with someone.  I'm not sure how easy it is for a mod to see karma changes (like a list of all people on the site), but if you see someone start taking serious neg hits you could find the perpetrator and issue punishment as deemed fit.  Just my opinion. :p

Anoobass
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Imink on August 08, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
First what's the difference between a mod and a patron? I know that a mod is basically an extra set of eyes for Piotr and that they have a large say about what goes on here as the enforcers of the law. But aren't patrons just like that just agreed to obey the law in real life?
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Keyeto on August 09, 2013, 12:14:23 AM
Quote from: Imink on August 08, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
First what's the difference between a mod and a patron? I know that a mod is basically an extra set of eyes for Piotr and that they have a large say about what goes on here as the enforcers of the law. But aren't patrons just like that just agreed to obey the law in real life?
Patrons are users who pay a one dollar monthly fee for certain perks.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: Imink on August 09, 2013, 12:46:30 AM
I think that patrons should be able to see karma changes of 5 or more but being able to punish them could be a different story . I guess that it would depend on the punishment also and the other perks they get.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: BcBudds on August 09, 2013, 03:30:06 PM
I believe it should stay as is, it would just get complicated and start arguments IMO. I think I could handle it but I would prefer to not know who negged me just because who really want to know that stuff? Just causes problems. 

I think if you want to make something to pay for make something like the Facebook 'like' system for posts / comments.. Then have the karma system for the trade section and let us see +\- for not only us, but other people as well. But have something set up so you may only give a single +/- per actual trade completed
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: TheRagingMage on August 13, 2013, 11:14:59 AM
I think that it's fine as it is.  If you think someone is disliking your posts constantly, you can PM a mod or ask about it in the karma log.
Title: Re: Karma for Patrons
Post by: whitedrake on August 13, 2013, 07:08:25 PM
Honestly I have never been upset about negative karma..;) but sometimes I really would like to know who gave me positive karma...;) everyone here is talking about negative karma complains but those people complain does not matter if they know the source or not...

I would gladly have the option to see more... I would even pay more on my monthly fee...:D