So, I went I've gone 4-1 with jund 3 times and placed 2-4 and gotten 1st once, got 4-1 once placing 3rd with junk rites then first. Played 4 color rites once and got 1st and last fnm played gruul aggro and got 2nd.
What deck should I play next, can't play any deck with snap, Geist or, voice, or thundermaw, but can build ANY deck without these, and I have a play set of each dual and shock and standard so that's not a problem.
I say Bant or Grixis. Because Bant is all the rage right now, and Grixis is just my jam always.
Naya is also all the rage right now lol
Either Naya or Boros Aggro. A lot of people are doing odd decks right now, trying to make the best of having two cores and two blocks available, so just crush them with speed.
What about a skies deck? There strengthening that archetype, and I have a feeling Theros will strengthen it even more
Quote from: Taysby on August 06, 2013, 12:06:15 PM
I would say mono green. Green is my jam.
However that's your decision. JUST DON'T PLAY BANT HEXPROOF!!!
Why not Bant Hexproof? Everyone's doing it! :D
Don't do a typical net deck like Bant Hexproof do Gruul Aggro with {Wild Beastmaster} and A LOT OF BLOODRUSH!! It's a lot of fun and quite competitive the last 3 FNMs I finished in Top 3 (of about 20). It's an unexpected deck and such a good combo!!
Bloodrush and Unleash and Haste. YIKES!
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 06, 2013, 12:46:42 PM
Bloodrush and Unleash and Haste. YIKES!
Geists and beasts and goblins, oh my! :)
Boros humans! Or just any kind of boros deck. Burn, aggro, whatever. Just play boros.
Like I saide I can't do Bant because I don't have any geists and Naya because I don't have any thundermaw or voice and not grixis cause I don't have snap but I have a play set of EVerY other standard card.
Again don't do a typical deck!! Use your skills to make you unique to you!! They're often unexpected and can be even more powerful than net decks
You can do Grixis without Snapcaster Mage. But whatevs, it's your deck and your call.
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 06, 2013, 06:39:15 PM
You can do Grixis without Snapcaster Mage. But whatevs, it's your deck and your call.
This! Don't just net deck!
You could try the mono red Raid 2.0 deck or even my mono black Heartless Summoning deck in the articles. I cant believe how solid it still is.
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 06, 2013, 06:39:15 PM
You can do Grixis without Snapcaster Mage. But whatevs, it's your deck and your call.
This! Don't just net deck!
I'm not a big net decker but if I want to keep up how much I win running a blue control deck without snaps won't work until rotation.
Yes you can. If you Mill the mess out of someone, they won't have Snaps. I've done it before. Snaps are great, but they're far from necessary.
Run a Jund deck that eats graveyards. Put a playset of {Scavenging Ooze}s, {Deathrite Shaman}s, {Naturalize}s, {Putrefy}s, and {Dreadbore}s. To win throw in a playset of {Lava Axe}s and {Volcanic Geyser}s. Its like a Jund Burn/Control. Why, because its not something you see everyday and a lot of people wouldn't be prepared for it. Side board (or main deck) {Acid Slime}s, {Demolish}s and maybe {Encroaching Waste}s so you can slow them down and then eat the lands with your {Deathrite Shaman}.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 06, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
Run a Jund deck that eats graveyards. Put a playset of {Scavenging Ooze}s, {Deathrite Shaman}s, {Naturalize}s, {Putrefy}s, and {Dreadbore}s. To win throw in a playset of {Lava Axe}s and {Volcanic Geyser}s. Its like a Jund Burn/Control. Why, because its not something you see everyday and a lot of people wouldn't be prepared for it. Side board (or main deck) {Acid Slime}s, {Demolish}s and maybe {Encroaching Waste}s so you can slow them down and then eat the lands with your {Deathrite Shaman}.
Not Trying to be rude but I have to play agaist ToP tier decks and this might not cut it but you have amazing ideas.
Well if you play against top tier decks (net decks), you must build top tier decks (net decks), so you mustn't need our help. If you don't like the ideas here, don't ask for help.
The rotationis soon I suggest dega agro or azorius control for post rotation. I have a list for eack and have been testing for months, you can use it post rotation but they would still be great now.
Quote from: CrackaLacka on August 06, 2013, 10:40:38 PM
Well if you play against top tier decks (net decks), you must build top tier decks (net decks), so you mustn't need our help. If you don't like the ideas here, don't ask for help.
Net decks are never actually needed to win, i almost beat junk reanimator with my budget rakdos agro deck, i was at 44 they were at 1
Plus Jund control/anti-graveyard is so weird that no one has a strategy to defend against it. I probably won't be first every week but it should throw enough people off to place top half at least.
I usually play against top tier decks also. Hexproof, Bant control (bouncing), America Midrange and BUG reanimator (less now that rotation is coming up) are the most common. But I have found if you go in with something unusual you can unusually do pretty well because people aren't prepared for it and don't know how to play against it. Also, the deck is pretty functional. You use the kill spells and land destroyers to fill up their graveyard and promptly eat their stuff and the instants and sorceries you are throwing out and slow them way down. Think, with {Deathrite Shaman}'s ability every time you eat an instant or sorcery, your opponent loses 2 life. Add that to the burn spells and any damage you can get in with {Scavenging Ooze} and you can win.
One of the two:
Eggs
Or
Five-colour All The Good Stuff!
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 06, 2013, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on August 06, 2013, 10:40:38 PM
Well if you play against top tier decks (net decks), you must build top tier decks (net decks), so you mustn't need our help. If you don't like the ideas here, don't ask for help.
Net decks are never actually needed to win, i almost beat junk reanimator with my budget rakdos agro deck, i was at 44 they were at 1
I'm pretty sure I didn't say that they were needed at all. It may have read like that, but i didnt mean it. I really dislike it when people use net decks, and all the "Top Tier" decks are net decks but with one or two different cards, and then they call it their own. I love playing budget decks, and weird unusual decks that throw people off. Deckbuilding is part of Magic as a whole, and net decking ruins it.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 06, 2013, 10:53:57 PM
One of the two:
Eggs
Or
Five-colour All The Good Stuff!
Noah and I made 5 Color Good Stuff. It's so damn fun!
Play Bug +1/+1 counters,
{prime speaker zegana}
{Corpsejack menace}
{Vorel of the hull clade}
Super fun to play just add control cards and cards with simular effects.
{Bioshift}
{Clone}
{fog}
And {bane alley broker} for library digging
My mate made a 5 colour mono black deck. It's rediculiously powerful. He finished first with it too.
Quote from: Wally on August 07, 2013, 02:23:29 AM
My mate made a 5 colour mono black deck. It's rediculiously powerful. He finished first with it too.
What?
Quote from: Wally on August 07, 2013, 02:23:29 AM
My mate made a 5 colour mono black deck. It's rediculiously powerful. He finished first with it too.
Lolwut
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 07, 2013, 02:10:34 AM
Play Bug +1/+1 counters,
{prime speaker zegana}
{Corpsejack menace}
{Vorel of the hull clade}
Super fun to play just add control cards and cards with simular effects.
{Bioshift}
{Clone}
{fog}
And {bane alley broker} for library digging
I'm not trying to be rude to any of you but I need something competative, I'm thinking of trying to make my junk wolfrun again.
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 07, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 07, 2013, 02:10:34 AM
Play Bug +1/+1 counters,
{prime speaker zegana}
{Corpsejack menace}
{Vorel of the hull clade}
Super fun to play just add control cards and cards with simular effects.
{Bioshift}
{Clone}
{fog}
And {bane alley broker} for library digging
I'm not trying to be rude to any of you but I need something competative, I'm thinking of trying to make my junk wolfrun again.
Playtest it, i have a list and there is no way it won't survive to have a 66/66 on turn 7 to punch face with, the list is very competative and I have tested it against many top tier decks right now.
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 07, 2013, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 07, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 07, 2013, 02:10:34 AM
Play Bug +1/+1 counters,
{prime speaker zegana}
{Corpsejack menace}
{Vorel of the hull clade}
Super fun to play just add control cards and cards with simular effects.
{Bioshift}
{Clone}
{fog}
And {bane alley broker} for library digging
I'm not trying to be rude to any of you but I need something competative, I'm thinking of trying to make my junk wolfrun again.
Playtest it, i have a list and there is no way it won't survive to have a 66/66 on turn 7 to punch face with, the list is very competative and I have tested it against many top tier decks right now.
Just 1 piece of removal kills it.
No offense Hunter but if you are going to shoot down every deck idea, don't ask for help.
or my Heartless Summoning suggestion. :)
which I will raise again. Just try it, i dare you. (power level over 9000! (-1))
So, I get 3 negative karma for asking for help? It's not like I can choose all your decks? You get mad at me for rejecting yours... Well I can't pick everybody.
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
So, I get 3 negative karma for asking for help? It's not like I can choose all your decks? You get mad at me for rejecting yours... Well I can't pick everybody.
That sucks ill give you positive for asking for help lol you can't please everyone just try to not netdeck please
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 08, 2013, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
So, I get 3 negative karma for asking for help? It's not like I can choose all your decks? You get mad at me for rejecting yours... Well I can't pick everybody.
That sucks ill give you positive for asking for help lol you can't please everyone just try to not netdeck please
I won't, I'm still debating what to play.
I just thought of something fun... Bug wolfrun.... Or I might try my 4 color midrange again, and i also might try one of Travis Woos's decks and that's not net decking.
I say maybe a 4 color aggro. Black white red green. With kessig wolf run and such. Or just run 5 color shenanigans
Quote from: Taysby on August 08, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
You should play the lands with spells archetype. That archetype is responsible for the last 10 years worth of protour wins.
Totally agree! Lol
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 08, 2013, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 08, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
You should play the lands with spells archetype. That archetype is responsible for the last 10 years worth of protour wins.
Totally agree! Lol
thanks really helpful:P it's a really good deck I think I'm going to play it for the rest of my magic life .
Quote from: Taysby on August 08, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
You should play the lands with spells archetype. That archetype is responsible for the last 10 years worth of protour wins.
Nah, man, belcher erry day. They tell you it isn't standard, you tell them it is and keep on going!
Except.... don't do that :P
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 08, 2013, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 08, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
You should play the lands with spells archetype. That archetype is responsible for the last 10 years worth of protour wins.
Nah, man, belcher erry day. They tell you it isn't standard, you tell them it is and keep on going!
Except.... don't do that :P
I do:P
Jk