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Title: American Midrange
Post by: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 03:20:17 AM

American Midrange

75 cards, 15 sideboard


1 {Eiganjo Castle}
4 {Celestial Colonnade}
2 {Island}
1 {Mountain}
1 {Hallowed Fountain}
2 {Tectonic Edge}
1 {Sulfur Falls}
4 {Scalding Tarn}
2 {Sacred Foundry}
4 {Arid Mesa}
2 {Steam Vents}
1 {Plains}

25 lands


3 {Vendilion Clique}
4 {Snapcaster Mage}
3 {Grim Lavamancer}
3 {Geist of Saint Traft}

13 creatures


2 {Batterskull}
2 {Mana Tithe}
1 {Boros Charm}
1 {Izzet Charm}
4 {Lightning Bolt}
2 {Remand}
3 {Path to Exile}
1 {Isochron Scepter}
2 {Electrolyze}
4 {Lightning Helix}

22 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Sowing Salt}
1 {Relic of Progenitus}
1 {Baneslayer Angel}
2 {Aven Mindcensor}
1 {Wear // Tear}
1 {Spellskite}
2 {Engineered Explosives}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Runed Halo}
1 {Counterflux}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Antirayman on August 06, 2013, 06:22:52 AM
I think you should cut {Batterskull}.
You have already {Celestial Colonnade}.
If you draw batterskull against combo or aggro it's just so bad. I think it could be a sideboard card against jund.
Isn't there a better counter spell than {Mana Tithe} in blue?
I think {Spell Snare} or {Cryptic Command} are better.
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: imthelolrus on August 06, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: Antirayman on August 06, 2013, 06:22:52 AM
I think you should cut {Batterskull}.
You have already {Celestial Colonnade}.
If you draw batterskull against combo or aggro it's just so bad. I think it could be a sideboard card against jund.
Isn't there a better counter spell than {Mana Tithe} in blue?
I think {Spell Snare} or {Cryptic Command} are better.
I've considered changing the Batterskull slots to something else. I know  {Mana Tithe} doesnt look like much, but I cant count the times people will tap out in modern. Most aren't familiar with the card either, so it basically becomes a counterspell for W. Spell Snare is fine but can be dead in more situations than tithe IMO. I love {Cryptic Command} but it messes up the curve unless batterskull is dropped.

Any opinions of the sideboard?
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 12:36:24 PM
I have found {Mana Tithe} to be pretty helpful. Mostly in the fact that people aren't expecting it, and they generally think I'm holding on to a {Path to Exile}. I used it twice with great success on Sunday. Once against {Sphinx's Revelation} and one against {Wurmcoil Engine}.
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Marcjh0905 on August 06, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Just curious as to why you went with {Engineered Explosives} over {Ratchet Bomb} in your sideboard? And no need for {Leyline of Sanctity} in the side?
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Marcjh0905 on August 06, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Just curious as to why you went with {Engineered Explosives} over {Ratchet Bomb} in your sideboard? And no need for {Leyline of Sanctity} in the side?

{Engineered Explosives} is faster.
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: EvACiDe on August 06, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Marcjh0905 on August 06, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Just curious as to why you went with {Engineered Explosives} over {Ratchet Bomb} in your sideboard? And no need for {Leyline of Sanctity} in the side?

{Engineered Explosives} is faster.

What about the leyline..?
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: EvACiDe on August 06, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on August 06, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Marcjh0905 on August 06, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Just curious as to why you went with {Engineered Explosives} over {Ratchet Bomb} in your sideboard? And no need for {Leyline of Sanctity} in the side?

{Engineered Explosives} is faster.

What about the leyline..?

RDW and things of the like are practically nonexistent in our metagame. Maybe at some point Leyline will make it's way back into the sideboard, but as of right now there's no reason to include it.
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 03:23:07 PM
Hell yeah {Mana Tithe}!!  I love that card haha. I like {Eiganjo I forgot the second half} for Geist a lot.

Although, I don't really like {Isochron Scepter} or {Boros Charm}. Seem a little awkward maybe. I'd want to have some kinda draw other than {Electrolyze}. {Serum Visions}?

{Eiganjo Castle} 👍
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: imthelolrus on August 06, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
;)
We tried  {Serum Visions} in our first build and it was okay. It smoothed out the deck a little, i think. Several here and our lgs have criticized our boros charm haha. :P It can protect Geist or be a finisher but it's prob the weakest card. I might add a 3rd  {Remand} since I just traded for one. It's a card I'm always happy to draw
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
Lol face, meet palm. Totally forgot about {Remand} :P.  What's the deal with the scepter?  As a one of, it just seems a little awkward IMO. I mean, if you open with it and slap a {Remand} or path on it, sure, but how often does that happen?

And I understand the uses of {Boros Charm} (unfortunately...) but it just seems like a winmore kinda thing honestly lol. And Geist is fairly defendable with his hexproof and a {Batterskull} already. I definitely do like some applications of the charm, though

Man, I'm coming across as a jerk haha. Not meaning to be!  😓
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: imthelolrus on August 06, 2013, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
Lol face, meet palm. Totally forgot about {Remand} :P.  What's the deal with the scepter?  As a one of, it just seems a little awkward IMO. I mean, if you open with it and slap a {Remand} or path on it, sure, but how often does that happen?
It can be very powerful, but it does require some investment, so I'd never want to draw more than one in any game. It may get dropped eventually, I like that it lets me do something with any excess mana mid game. If I did take it out I'd consider  {Cryptic Command} or maybe a 4th Geist
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
Nah, {Cryptic Command} is bad! :P jkjk. I do like it as a one of, for sure.

Oh, and btw, I really like this deck :P
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: imthelolrus on August 06, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
You are not being a jerk! I appreciate the discussion and having to think these things through more. Someone at the lgs said it was a strange card and they didn't like it but wouldn't go in depth.

It's most helpful if you're racing with an opponent. A snappy and boros Cham is almost half their life total. BUT, it is sorta a filler card IMO, with some relevant applications. It has some surprise factor and then gets sided out for hate.

I feel like  {Thundermaw Hellkite} needs to be included somewhere
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
I almost wanna say drop the {Grim Lavamancer}s for maybe a {Thundermaw Hellkite} or two and maybe shift the {Baneslayer Angel} to main, but that's probably just my love of that card showing through haha.

The lavamancers seem like they could be a nice mana dump mid-late, but with Snappy, I feel like they might be a bit counterproductive. Although, they've seemed really popular before, and I've never understood the appeal, so I very well could be missing something awesome with them haha
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 06, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
The winner of the Magic Modern World Championship, Shahar Shenhar, just won with an America Midrange, check out his deck.
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: imthelolrus on August 07, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 06, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
The winner of the Magic Modern World Championship, Shahar Shenhar, just won with an America Midrange, check out his deck.

Yeah I saw his list (I was actually really curious at the 2nd place list because I have hexproof auras). His list feels too controlly for my tastes, but obviously it's powerful. I actually prefer aggro decks mostly but this UWr deck Moneekah and I made is really fun :)
Title: Re: American Midrange
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on August 07, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
Shahar Shenhar's deck was a control deck. He even specified.