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Title: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Crapshooter on August 04, 2013, 03:40:16 AM
What is your opinion and why? Personally I think it's  {Pithing Needle}, it may not seem like much, but think of everything it stops,  {Ætherling},  {Olivia Voldaren}, planeswalkers, utility lands and most decks aren't running any artifact hate. Second choice would be  {Burning Earth} simply because of the land being used in meta game.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
Quote from: Crapshooter on August 04, 2013, 03:40:16 AM
What is your opinion and why? Personally I think it's  {Pithing Needle}, it may not seem like much, but think of everything it stops,  {Ætherling},  {Olivia Voldaren}, planeswalkers, utility lands and most decks aren't running any artifact hate. Second choice would be  {Burning Earth} simply because of the land being used in meta game.

I didn't think Pithing Needle was Standard, unless it was reprinted. And Olivia's abilities are mana based.....so it wouldn't stop her.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 03:54:40 AM
Nevermind, I see where it was reprinted. But the second part of my argument still stands. Nevertheless, that card is pretty mean.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: That_Guy on August 04, 2013, 04:26:49 AM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
Quote from: Crapshooter on August 04, 2013, 03:40:16 AM
What is your opinion and why? Personally I think it's  {Pithing Needle}, it may not seem like much, but think of everything it stops,  {Ætherling},  {Olivia Voldaren}, planeswalkers, utility lands and most decks aren't running any artifact hate. Second choice would be  {Burning Earth} simply because of the land being used in meta game.

I didn't think Pithing Needle was Standard, unless it was reprinted. And Olivia's abilities are mana based.....so it wouldn't stop her.
A mana ability is an activated ability that creates mana (such as with {Llanowar Elves}, {Birds of Paradise}, and {Ur-Golem's Eye}), or a triggered ability that triggers off of mana creation and makes more mana itself (such as with {Overgrowth} or the last ability on {Gauntlet of Power}).
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Mikefrompluto on August 04, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
{Snapcaster Mage} in my opinion. After it leaves standard, then I'd say {Ætherling}, especially since {U}{G}, {U}{R}, and even {U}{G}{R} is possible for bloodrush and other {G} pumps.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Monrodesign on August 04, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
Everyone hates on {Rakdos's Return}
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Mlerner12 on August 04, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
{Thragtusk}...
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Birdbrain on August 04, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 04, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
{Thragtusk}...
add {conjurer's closet} an {strionic resonator} and hopefuly get a rage quit
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: EvACiDe on August 04, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
Either {thragtusk}, {snapcaster Mage} or {liliana of the veil} imo
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: EvACiDe on August 04, 2013, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 04, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 04, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
{Thragtusk}...
add {conjurer's closet} an {strionic resonator} and hopefuly get a rage quit

LMAO! That's a ridiculous combo I can't believe I never thought of
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 04, 2013, 01:13:40 PM
You can't name single most powerful card because how powerful a card is, is all relative to the other hundred actions and reactions going on in the game. For example, is {Hero's Reunion} a powerful card? It is when you have {Sanguine Bond} or {Archangel of Thune} out. Pay {W}{G} to gain 7 life, your opponent loses 7 life and every creature you control gets a +1/+1 counter, sounds good. Although if I have to choose, I would say Shocklands are the most powerful cards in standard because they provide us with an extraordinary land base that allows us to have these crazy multi-color decks.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Stromack on August 04, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
{deathrite shaman}
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 04, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
I would say {Thundermaw Hellkite}.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 10:06:47 PM
{Kalonian Hydra}......because X_x
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 11:23:50 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

Omg......Nicol, my love!
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 11:23:50 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

Omg......Nicol, my love!
Post is not related

Hehe the realization that he's in standard has made me want to buy the pieces for a Grixis control deck before he rotates. 
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Mizark on August 04, 2013, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 11:23:50 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

Omg......Nicol, my love!

Hahaha yes !!
Nicol Bolas FTW XD !!
Sure he costs {4}{U}{B}{B}{R} but those three abilities are simply delecious !! 😜
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 04, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

An eight drop? Yes he one of the most powerful cards that is never played in standard. In competitive standard he is almost unplayable, in fact I have never seen Bolas at an FNM
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 04, 2013, 11:43:47 PM
It doesn't matter! I fell in love with him the moment we laid eyes upon each other, and although I can only play him in my Grixis EDH deck, he's worth tapping all those sweet little manas..... <3
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 04, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

An eight drop? Yes he one of the most powerful cards that is never played in standard. In competitive standard he is almost unplayable, in fact I have never seen Bolas at an FNM

He could see play. While not much, I'd almost always run a 1-of in Grixis control. He's one of those cards that hits the field, and your opponent just scoops. So fun to use!
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 05, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
{Progenitor Mimic} is also a great one.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Crapshooter on August 05, 2013, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 04, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

An eight drop? Yes he one of the most powerful cards that is never played in standard. In competitive standard he is almost unplayable, in fact I have never seen Bolas at an FNM

I've seen him in 5 color and anything running  {Omniscience}
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: JustAWalrus on August 05, 2013, 01:51:16 AM
I would say its between {Mountain} {Forest} and {island} maybe {Plains} or {Swamp}
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Mattao19 on August 05, 2013, 02:44:41 AM
 {Wild Beastmaster} (my one true love) bc who doesn't love to give creatures a huge pump. Put her with a  {Champion of Lambholt} and bloodrushed her and not only do you swing for big your opponent can't block bc of how big you Champion is!! Just a great card especially for Bloodrush and nobody (but me) plays her!!!
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: MuggyWuggy on August 05, 2013, 02:45:59 AM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 05, 2013, 01:51:16 AM
I would say its between {Mountain} {Forest} and {island} maybe {Plains} or {Swamp}
This
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Anoobass on August 05, 2013, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 05, 2013, 02:45:59 AM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on August 05, 2013, 01:51:16 AM
I would say its between {Mountain} {Forest} and {island} maybe {Plains} or {Swamp}
This

Ikr, got a +1 for that, he is right, a good deck will have at least 15 of those in any combination.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Wackaman9001 on August 05, 2013, 05:21:35 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 04, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} 😜

An eight drop? Yes he one of the most powerful cards that is never played in standard. In competitive standard he is almost unplayable, in fact I have never seen Bolas at an FNM
I run 2 of him, 3 vs control when I use grixis control. I run about 27 lands and a playset of {crypt ghast} though.... but as soon as he hits people tend to start panicking :)
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
 {Domri Rade} 'nuff said
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: LadyGrixis on August 05, 2013, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
{Domri Rade} 'nuff said

Yes, and he's very underplayed.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Mattao19 on August 05, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 05, 2013, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
{Domri Rade} 'nuff said

Yes, and he's very underplayed.
I play him!!
Him with the previously mentioned  {Arbor Elf} for a T2 Domri is awesome your opponent is like whaaaa? And you're like ya that just happened.
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: Tonygrabowski4 on August 05, 2013, 01:31:22 PM
Sliver tokens are beast
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: AdamS on August 05, 2013, 04:54:43 PM
 {Assemble the Legion} and {Descent into Madness} and stuff to boost counters make a ridiculous combo
Title: Re: Most Powerful Card in Standard
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on August 05, 2013, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
{Domri Rade} 'nuff said

Yes, and he's very underplayed.

I play 4 in my standard deck, and I'll be playing 4 in my modern deck... When I get around to building it...