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Title: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Bookmeister on August 01, 2013, 12:44:12 AM
This just hit me.
{Plasm Capture}
{Strionic Resonator}
With some ramp maybe a turn 4 {Omniscience}?
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Thornrune on August 01, 2013, 05:43:22 AM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Birdbrain on August 01, 2013, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Bookmeister on August 01, 2013, 12:44:12 AM
This just hit me.
{Plasm Capture}
{Strionic Resonator}
With some ramp maybe a turn 4 {Omniscience}?
then throw in {enter the infinite}
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Rigeld on August 03, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
What ability are you copying?  The mana from {Plasm Capture} isn't an activated ability...
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Birdbrain on August 03, 2013, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 03, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
What ability are you copying?  The mana from {Plasm Capture} isn't an activated ability...
strionic resonator copies triggered abilities, not activated abilities
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Austinist1 on August 04, 2013, 08:33:22 PM
Wow, this is amazing!!! Nice
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Rigeld on August 05, 2013, 12:16:42 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 03, 2013, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 03, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
What ability are you copying?  The mana from {Plasm Capture} isn't an activated ability...
strionic resonator copies triggered abilities, not activated abilities
Thanks for the correction, but Plasm Capture isn't a triggered ability either.
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on August 05, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 05, 2013, 12:16:42 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 03, 2013, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 03, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
What ability are you copying?  The mana from {Plasm Capture} isn't an activated ability...
strionic resonator copies triggered abilities, not activated abilities
Thanks for the correction, but Plasm Capture isn't a triggered ability either.

It's just a spell.
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: MementoMori on August 05, 2013, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 05, 2013, 12:16:42 AM
Thanks for the correction, but Plasm Capture isn't a triggered ability either.
Right, it's not. But it creates a delayed one.

Quote603.7. An effect may create a delayed triggered ability that can do something at a later time. A delayed triggered ability will contain "when," "whenever," or "at," although that word won't usually begin the ability.

603.7a Delayed triggered abilities come from spells or other abilities that create them on resolution, or are created as the result of a replacement effect being applied.

When Plasm Capture resolves, it creates a delayed triggered ability (the part that begins "At the beginning of your next main phase..."). This is no different from any other triggered ability, and Strionic Resonator can copy it.
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Bookmeister on August 05, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: MementoMori on August 05, 2013, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: Rigeld on August 05, 2013, 12:16:42 AM
Thanks for the correction, but Plasm Capture isn't a triggered ability either.
Right, it's not. But it creates a delayed one.

Quote603.7. An effect may create a delayed triggered ability that can do something at a later time. A delayed triggered ability will contain "when," "whenever," or "at," although that word won't usually begin the ability.

603.7a Delayed triggered abilities come from spells or other abilities that create them on resolution, or are created as the result of a replacement effect being applied.

When Plasm Capture resolves, it creates a delayed triggered ability (the part that begins "At the beginning of your next main phase..."). This is no different from any other triggered ability, and Strionic Resonator can copy it.

Thank you for quoting the rule.
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on August 05, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
OIC!!!
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: Arcadi_tepes on August 16, 2013, 02:02:54 AM
I like it.  But it'll have to be turn 5 without further acceleration right? Since you need to actually cast the counter.
Title: Re: Strionic Resonator, Plasm Capture.
Post by: MementoMori on August 16, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
Yes. But that's why he mentioned "with some ramp." Just one {Elvish Mystic}, on the draw, gets you there on turn 4 if you counter their four-drop.