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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 11:07:51 AM

Title: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 11:07:51 AM
Lets say you unatp a taped permanent with {hidden strings} can you tap it again before the second untap resolves?
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.
thats not what I meant...

I meant if the permanent has a {T} ability, could you throw that inbetween the untapping of the strings
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
You could tap it with it's activated ability, untap it and tap/untap another creature with Hidden Strings and tap him again. You can't choose the same creature to be untapped because it says another. So it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Keyeto on July 29, 2013, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.
thats not what I meant...

I meant if the permanent has a {T} ability, could you throw that inbetween the untapping of the strings
You cannot. Both untapping/tappings of {Hidden Strings} occur during the resolution of the spell. You cannot activate abilities in the middle of a spell resolving.
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 02:44:49 PM
Ok thanks. The infinite combo I thought of can still work this way
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 02:53:01 PM
{hidden strings} on an evasion creature + {gilded lotus} + {strionic resonator}
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
So unblocked creature deals damage, you trigger the ability and pay with the Lotus to copy. The most recent resolves, untapping your artifacts, but can you copy the triggered ability again? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 06:57:02 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
So unblocked creature deals damage, you trigger the ability and pay with the Lotus to copy. The most recent resolves, untapping your artifacts, but can you copy the triggered ability again? I don't think so.
the original copy never resolved
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 07:01:19 PM
You're right.
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 07:01:19 PM
You're right.
dont say I'm right just because you don't want to argue, only say I'm right if I realy am. Don't be afraid to tell me if I'm wrong. That goes for everyone
Title: Re: Hidden strings
Post by: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
No. You are right. I was writing an argument when I realized that I was wrong.
The first one never resolved. The copied resolved to cast the spell and the other doesn't resolve.
You are correct. I apologize for the confusion.