Couldn't wait after I thought of this.
Paula Deen, accused of calling black people niggers. She apologized on video, which was posted to YouTube, and apologized on tv. She was soon stripped of her shows on food network, and everything that was ever filmed on food network that she starred in was taken off the air.
Thoughts
Haha this one is stupid classic example of she obviously did it and is in cover ass mode now. She admitted at first thinking it would help and it didn't the she tries to say it was only one time. It's so obvious. And for the person who file the law suit aka the "FORMER" employee he probably got fired for some stupid reason was pissed and was like hmm how can I get back at her oh I know Paula said a few racist remarks yeah she is screwed. In review it's another stupid issue that first new to be one cause bothe parties involved are stupid an the media can make a quick buck on the story and people eat it right up
The funny thing is she said these things like so many years ago, when everybody said that. I find it cruel how the media eats people alive by twisting the truth on everything, making things sound bigger then they real are.
See acade on TV? NOPE! The media royally screws it up. I was at a trial (WATCHING) then saw it on TV and wondered if the reporter was in the same courtroom.
I think it's messed up that they went on a witch hunt for something she said years ago, but at the same time, she shouldn't have said it in the first place. Proof that all things catch up with you. You say something stupid, eventually there will be consequences.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 21, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
I think it's messed up that they went on a witch hunt for something she said years ago, but at the same time, she shouldn't have said it in the first place. Proof that all things catch up with you. You say something stupid, eventually there will be consequences.
it wasn't a one time thing thou in one of her earlier realeses when she was asked if she uses the n-word she said"of coarse"
Can you link to said release? I can't find it. All I can find is her admitting to saying it in the past, and as such, that's all I can base my opinions on.
Regardless, I've always hate that sow anyways. Good riddance.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 21, 2013, 02:36:02 AM
Can you link to said release? I can't find it. All I can find is her admitting to saying it in the past, and as such, that's all I can base my opinions on.
Regardless, I've always hate that sow anyways. Good riddance.
it was during the very first deposition, you can find the transcribed events online
Eh too much reading and I'm feeling lazy right now hahah. I'm not even trying to defend her. As I said before, I hated her anyways.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 21, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
I think it's messed up that they went on a witch hunt for something she said years ago, but at the same time, she shouldn't have said it in the first place. Proof that all things catch up with you. You say something stupid, eventually there will be consequences.
Well remember, she said it at a time when it was social accepted. CORRECTION! Socially expected. I ask my great grandmother if she said nigger, and she said that she did a long time ago.
Certain words are apart of the past and when they resurface they hurt.
I called a black friend a nigger in 1st or 2nd grade. I had no idea what it even meant. In fact my other black friend told me to say that to the other guy. I was young (6/7) and ignorant, ended up getting in a fight with him, I saw the hurt in his face when I said that. I never knew what it even meant until later and I still feel remorse for hurting someone that way.
Associating yourself with a phrase so horrendous will have its consequences if your products are in Target
I don't care if the millionaire Paula Deen loses her job. She promotes obesity, animal abuse and anti-intellectualism.
Yeah anyone who promotes animal abuse can get shot in the face in my book
I can't stand cruelty to animals
I'd usually rather be around animals than people
Words can hurt more than anything but they are going after some one for a mistake thaey said years ago. I was raised to like and not judge people for physical things such as race or a handy cap. But you also have to realize that it's a different time now slurs don't mean the same thing anymore at my schools every ones a N word it's meant in a more friendly way now but still calling someone the N word is something I don't agree with no matter how its meant.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 21, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
I don't care if the millionaire Paula Deen loses her job. She promotes obesity, animal abuse and anti-intellectualism.
The first one is pretty obvious, but animal cruelty and anti-intillectualism? How did she promote those? I'm not doubting you, I actually just don't know about it. I never watched her show (I like sautéing in butter as much as the next guy but wtf, seriously.) or really even payed any attention to her, so aside from the huge media buzz just recently, I haven't heard these other things.
Quote from: Gorzo on July 22, 2013, 06:02:07 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 21, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
I don't care if the millionaire Paula Deen loses her job. She promotes obesity, animal abuse and anti-intellectualism.
The first one is pretty obvious, but animal cruelty and anti-intillectualism? How did she promote those? I'm not doubting you, I actually just don't know about it. I never watched her show (I like sautéing in butter as much as the next guy but wtf, seriously.) or really even payed any attention to her, so aside from the huge media buzz just recently, I haven't heard these other things.
Well Paula Deen has recipes for meat products, including veal and other similarly harsely raised livestock. She condones the murder of animals.
The anti-intellectualism was a bit of a stretch, but I feel it has to do with her "down home southern" attitude of "if it ain't butter it aint good for ya!" Meanwhile she has diabetes from promoting obesity for years. My opinion is that Deen rode to prominence on the anti-intellectual redneck apologism train that gave us Larry the Cable Guy and any other seemingly valueless, hate filled simplicity.
I in no way have a problem with southerners, there are equally as many annoying people all over the country. I just hate the mentality.
Really?! Just because she cooks with things like veal?! That is stupid!!! That is like saying that we are like senseless animals because we eat hamburgers, simply because we had to kill a cow in the process.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 22, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
Really?! Just because she cooks with things like veal?! That is stupid!!! That is like saying that we are like senseless animals because we eat hamburgers, simply because we had to kill a cow in the process.
Hey now, everyone is entitled to their opinions. No need to call them stupid if you don't agree.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 22, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
Really?! Just because she cooks with things like veal?! That is stupid!!! That is like saying that we are like senseless animals because we eat hamburgers, simply because we had to kill a cow in the process.
That's almost precisely what I'm saying. Someone had to murder a cow to eat a hamburger. I didn't say the words "senseless", I just don't care for the promotion of animal abuse. Paula Deen getting fired = one less person who promotes the systematic murder of conscious creatures.
Frankly, I find the simple dismissal of my claim as "stupid" to be stupid in and of itself. Animals are tortured, killed and then drown in butter and sauce in the recipes of an intolerant, fat woman.
Sorry, I am on a short fuse at the moment.
Animals are not tortured when killed for food, they are killed quickly. Painlessly. And on that note, we are not torturing them, we gave them all a good life. By providing all the food they could possibly need. It is a animals are resources for food.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 22, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
Sorry, I am on a short fuse at the moment.
Animals are not tortured when killed for food, they are killed quickly. Painlessly. And on that note, we are not torturing them, we gave them all a good life. By providing all the food they could possibly need. It is a animals are resources for food.
By a good life surely you do not mean overbreeding, cramped cages they cannot move from, fed antibiotics and steroids, and being bred for the sole purpose of killing. That's not a good life by any measurable standards.
Animals are food for some, so are fruits, vegetables and plants. Do we really need to be murdering millions of creatures because they taste good?
That led me to a question, can a Vegan be 'pro choice' at the same time?
Quote from: Piotr on July 22, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
That led me to a question, can a Vegan be 'pro choice' at the same time?
I guess they'd be concerned with the suffering of conscious creatures, they could be pro choice.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: Piotr on July 22, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
That led me to a question, can a Vegan be 'pro choice' at the same time?
I guess they'd be concerned with the suffering of conscious creatures, they could be pro choice.
This is bait.
Also, being Vegan doesn't make you an animal rights activist. Many people are vegan by choice and could give a rats ass about PETA and the likes.
Quote from: #noided on July 22, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: Piotr on July 22, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
That led me to a question, can a Vegan be 'pro choice' at the same time?
I guess they'd be concerned with the suffering of conscious creatures, they could be pro choice.
This is bait.
Also, being Vegan doesn't make you an animal rights activist. Many people are vegan by choice and could give a rats ass about PETA and the likes.
Perhaps I should have went with "I guess if"?
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: #noided on July 22, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: Piotr on July 22, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
That led me to a question, can a Vegan be 'pro choice' at the same time?
I guess they'd be concerned with the suffering of conscious creatures, they could be pro choice.
This is bait.
Also, being Vegan doesn't make you an animal rights activist. Many people are vegan by choice and could give a rats ass about PETA and the likes.
Perhaps I should have went with "I guess if"?
Doesn't make a difference. By implying that a fetus isn't a conscious is bait, whether intended or not.
Just because some animals are bred that way doesn't mean all are and there are plenty of people who kill their own food hunting/fishing...
And regardless, I think it's a bit silly to degrade her about promoting eating meat among other things when most of the population think along the same lines as her food wise.
An appeal to the popularity of something does not make it OK. I need not remind people of the follies of thinking that way.
To Noided's point. I think that people concerned with the well being of conscious creatures would be concerned with mother of the potential future child. I've purposely left myself out of the abortion conversation because of the extremely opinionated, often religious based and limited amount of discourse that can transpire.
Piotr made a point and I attempted to make a case for someone who may be pro choice.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
An appeal to the popularity of something does not make it OK. I need not remind people of the follies of thinking that way.
Of course not but being the minority in the situation doesn't make that view right either.
It's all opinion.
Animals kill animals for food. Nature.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 22, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
An appeal to the popularity of something does not make it OK. I need not remind people of the follies of thinking that way.
Of course not but being the minority in the situation doesn't make that view right either.
It's all opinion.
Animals kill animals for food. Nature.
Animals kill animals for food because they have to. The naturalistic argument is a bad one, because we go against what's natural constantly. Indoor plumbing, medicine, hell - even eye glasses disturb the fate our genes selected for us. We can survive without eating animals, and can most certainly survive without factory farming.
I'm not trying to prove I'm right, simply stating that the murder of conscious creatures is what meat eaters are doing. It's up to every individual to come to terms with it; the majority are OK with the proposition.
Just for the sake of devil's advocate, how would you feel if I said that the vegan diet lacks an essential vitamin required for human brain health. This vitamin is only found in animal/fish protein, and deficiency of which is known to cause deteriorative brain diseases? Would your opinions of humans needing to eat animal products change at all?
This is true, btw. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the vegan lifestyle, but if you (any of you) are vegan, PLEASE take a B12 supplement, for your health.
Vegans aren't the only diet deficient in B12, vegitarians and meat eaters also miss out on essential amounts of B12. The amount of B12 required is low, but of course it's necessary for all non-meat diets.
B12 is actually produced artificially by raising bacteria cultures, that's where B12 supplements usually come from. That is used to fortify some vegan products. But unhealthy vegans are bad for the promotion of a vegan diet, so they should be taking the health steps.
If i turn to my black friend and call him a cracker, and he calls me a nigger even though i'm white, there's no problem.
Black people call black people niggers all the time, why should the word be barred from leaving the mouths of any other race?
It's a word.
If i told you that the word banana offended me to my core and ancestry, you would say "what the .love. is this kid thinking".
It's just another word.
Paula deen needs to make things with butter, how else will we know how to use it?
Quote from: Dudecore on July 22, 2013, 10:24:50 PM
Vegans aren't the only diet deficient in B12, vegitarians and meat eaters also miss out on essential amounts of B12. The amount of B12 required is low, but of course it's necessary for all non-meat diets.
B12 is actually produced artificially by raising bacteria cultures, that's where B12 supplements usually come from. That is used to fortify some vegan products. But unhealthy vegans are bad for the promotion of a vegan diet, so they should be taking the health steps.
True, other diets can also get a b12 deficiency, but it is the only one that is naturally void of it. Other vegetarians can get b12 naturally through animal products other than meat (cheese, milk, eggs, etc). It can be enough, but someone who doesn't know enough about managing their nutrition might still not get enough for their health.
As for artificial bacteria-made b12, yes that's true. But... before we silly humans had the capability of producing such technology, we have always been an omnivorous race. We even evolved somewhere along the line to STOP using our appendix, which used to digest sucrose but is now vestigial.
Besides, bacteria are living creatures too ;) where do you draw the line on what life is okay to 'abuse,' and by what authority? I don't think that's unreasonable to ask, considering I'm one of those scum-of-the-earth omnivores.
In any case, glad to hear you're smart about your nutritional input.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on July 21, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
Yeah anyone who promotes animal abuse can get shot in the face in my book
I can't stand cruelty to animals
I'd usually rather be around animals than people
so you would sooner decapitate a human than a chicken? Sort out your priorities man.
All health reasons aside, how does the thought of eating dead animal carcass not gross people out? (I just took the jump back to vegetarianism because I could not stand the thought of eating animals bodies any longer!)
On the topic of Paula Deen, she's a dummy. I have never been a fan of her.
Quote from: Slenderbro on July 23, 2013, 02:07:38 AM
If i turn to my black friend and call him a cracker, and he calls me a nigger even though i'm white, there's no problem.
Black people call black people niggers all the time, why should the word be barred from leaving the mouths of any other race?
It's a word.
If i told you that the word banana offended me to my core and ancestry, you would say "what the .love. is this kid thinking".
It's just another word.
Paula deen needs to make things with butter, how else will we know how to use it?
Remind me to respond to every comment you ever make with no emotion. Since they are all "just words" and don't really mean anything! 👍
Animal carcass, plant carcass...it's all dead lifeforms, isn't it? Plant life even responds to emotion and music. Is it because they're not 'cute' that it's okay to eat them?
Side note; I am kind of amused that this debate has gone from an issue revolving around racism, free speech, and the media into a (much less important, yet more interesting imo) discussion about the morality of eating hamburgers.
Plants ARE cute!
Case in point: 🌺🌻🌷🌸💐🌼🍄🌲
Haha, fair enough :P
Well I'd stated before that we do many things that go against the natural order of things, surely some of us have experienced flight - but we're born without wings. Artificial B12 is just fine with me, as Tylenol would be for someone in pain.
If we're to be concerned about the well being of conscious creatures, surely equivocating some minuscule amount of behavior in certain plants that resembles consciousness is inappropriate. I can't claim to know how we lost the use of our appendix, and at which point it was useful.
I'll leave it this way: if a race of super intelligent, technologically advanced aliens came to this planet, captured people, put them in tiny cells and slaughtered them - how would you feel? What if you found out they didn't have to do it, but we taste good, and they feel as though their superior intellect gives them the right?
Edit: to elaborate on Gorzo's point, the idea of "the wellbeing of conscious creatures" is woven into all of my statements. Not simply the destruction of life. Only the truly misguided (or naive) would ever be against the destruction of any living being, it's unavoidable, a sneeze kills thousands of prospective life forms. I'm speaking of our relation to, and reliance on the wellbeing of conscious creatures.
Also, the suggestion that we once upon a time required meat to live - you're right. Anyone can see that. We are no longer reliant on it, and certainly not in the quantities we they're produced today. There is nothing "natural" about factory farming, giving modern medicine to chickens so they don't die from overbreeding, nothing natural about any of those things. The naturalistic argument fails even its users. I cannot turn meat eaters into vegitarians/vegans, once upon a time we were all omnivores, and perhaps carnivores before that.
I'm doing my best to convey my message that eating animals is wrong, and understandably I've got my critics. I don't agree with it, but no one needs my approval or blessing to continue doing what they're doing. My parents are still omnivorous, most of my friends, most of the women I've dated, they understand my dissatisfaction with what they do - but who cares, right?
I care, but not enough to stop eating meat altogether. I can't wait when artificial meet is mass produced, then we can have our cookie and eat it too.
Seventh Day Adventists (google it... with a grain of salt) like me are ravenous vegetarians. I was raised on a meat free diet and my wife and daughter remain so.
Some years ago I switched to bacon and its been a savory sin ever since but that is the exception not the rule. My wife hates meat and so, unless I'm at a restaurant or on special occasion, I tend to eat veggie too.
I'll say this for a veggie diet: it doesn't taste quite as good but it feels better.
And Piotr, there are all kinds of fake meats on the market over here. Many are nasty but there are some great ones. If we're ever over in the UK my wife can make you a great shamburger!
Quote from: Langku on July 23, 2013, 09:17:40 AM
Seventh Day Adventists (google it... with a grain of salt) like me are ravenous vegetarians. I was raised on a meat free diet and my wife and daughter remain so.
Some years ago I switched to bacon and its been a savory sin ever since but that is the exception not the rule. My wife hates meat and so, unless I'm at a restaurant or on special occasion, I tend to eat veggie too.
I'll say this for a veggie diet: it doesn't taste quite as good but it feels better.
"My girlfriend's a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian." - Jules Winnfield
Whether you agree with eating meat or not, you cant argue the fact that Americans consume way too much meat than is necessary or healthy. I had to curb my meat intake due to health reasons, and now only consume meat two or three times a week. And even then it's either fish or chicken.
I've often thought about switching back to a vegetarian diet. This conversation has gotten me thinking about it again.
Quote from: Piotr on July 23, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
I care, but not enough to stop eating meat altogether. I can't wait when artificial meet is mass produced, then we can have our cookie and eat it too.
I actually respect this position.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 23, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
"My girlfriend's a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian." - Jules Winnfield
Whether you agree with eating meat or not, you cant argue the fact that Americans consume way too much meat than is necessary or healthy. I had to curb my meat intake due to health reasons, and now only consume meat two or three times a week. And even then it's either fish or chicken.
I've often thought about switching back to a vegetarian diet. This conversation has gotten me thinking about it again.
People will seek their own path in life. High fat diets for people who do not burn calories contributes to obesity. I also find it slightly disturbing when folks profess their love for animals, and eat at McDonald's or some similar cruelty factory. I believe there is a distinction between the animals they "love" (cute, fluffy ones that aren't harvested) vs. animals as a whole. That distinction draws me to the conclusion that they don't actually love animals more then they love the taste of animal flesh.
Quote from: Langku on July 23, 2013, 09:17:40 AM
I'll say this for a veggie diet: it doesn't taste quite as good but it feels better.
I can't take the smell or texture of meat anymore. When I was first starting out I did a "weekend veg" thing to acclimate myself. Essentially you just eat vegitarian all week, and on weekends you may eat meat. Eventually I didn't even want to anymore, and the very smel of it makes me sick. I don't miss it for a moment.
I don't know what you guys are going on about. Meat is the tastiest stuff. Don't eat it I'd you don't want to, more for me.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 23, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: Piotr on July 23, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
I care, but not enough to stop eating meat altogether. I can't wait when artificial meet is mass produced, then we can have our cookie and eat it too.
I actually respect this position.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 23, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
"My girlfriend's a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian." - Jules Winnfield
Whether you agree with eating meat or not, you cant argue the fact that Americans consume way too much meat than is necessary or healthy. I had to curb my meat intake due to health reasons, and now only consume meat two or three times a week. And even then it's either fish or chicken.
I've often thought about switching back to a vegetarian diet. This conversation has gotten me thinking about it again.
People will seek their own path in life. High fat diets for people who do not burn calories contributes to obesity. I also find it slightly disturbing when folks profess their love for animals, and eat at McDonald's or some similar cruelty factory. I believe there is a distinction between the animals they "love" (cute, fluffy ones that aren't harvested) vs. animals as a whole. That distinction draws me to the conclusion that they don't actually love animals more then they love the taste of animal flesh.
Fast food as a whole is disgusting anyways. McDonald's is the worst.
Now I'm craving a giant bowl of tofu curry over steamed rice.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 23, 2013, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 23, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: Piotr on July 23, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
I care, but not enough to stop eating meat altogether. I can't wait when artificial meet is mass produced, then we can have our cookie and eat it too.
I actually respect this position.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 23, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
"My girlfriend's a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian." - Jules Winnfield
Whether you agree with eating meat or not, you cant argue the fact that Americans consume way too much meat than is necessary or healthy. I had to curb my meat intake due to health reasons, and now only consume meat two or three times a week. And even then it's either fish or chicken.
I've often thought about switching back to a vegetarian diet. This conversation has gotten me thinking about it again.
People will seek their own path in life. High fat diets for people who do not burn calories contributes to obesity. I also find it slightly disturbing when folks profess their love for animals, and eat at McDonald's or some similar cruelty factory. I believe there is a distinction between the animals they "love" (cute, fluffy ones that aren't harvested) vs. animals as a whole. That distinction draws me to the conclusion that they don't actually love animals more then they love the taste of animal flesh.
Fast food as a whole is disgusting anyways. McDonald's is the worst.
Now I'm craving a giant bowl of tofu curry over steamed rice.
I'm craving fried chicken with some seasoned fries and toast
Quote from: The Pyromancer on July 23, 2013, 04:37:16 PM
I'm craving fried chicken with some seasoned fries and toast
Shinfo.
Ugh, don't get me started on fast food. Nasty. The comments about over-production and the animal conditions involved are for sure disgusting.
Quote from: Langku on July 23, 2013, 09:21:54 AM
And Piotr, there are all kinds of fake meats on the market over here. Many are nasty but there are some great ones. If we're ever over in the UK my wife can make you a great shamburger!
Let me know when you are ;)
Still, beef tenderloin is not yet fakeable :(
When it comes to these debates I've realized it's basically all opinion with facts on both sides of the table. Paula might have said the word in the past and may still use it today (being raised in Alabama that word is rarely used in public) so don't blame the south for a lady's mistake. Second the whole she's is supports cruelty towards animals by cooking with certain meats so do a lot of people it doesn't mean they should lose their jobs for it. And finally the comment about the "southern charm" promoting idiocracy??.. That is baseless and borderline hateful towards a culture that may be a little different speaking or acting than other parts of the country.
Quote from: ELLERfeller on July 23, 2013, 08:23:57 PM
When it comes to these debates I've realized it's basically all opinion with facts on both sides of the table. Paula might have said the word in the past and may still use it today (being raised in Alabama that word is rarely used in public) so don't blame the south for a lady's mistake. Second the whole she's is supports cruelty towards animals by cooking with certain meats so do a lot of people it doesn't mean they should lose their jobs for it. And finally the comment about the "southern charm" promoting idiocracy??.. That is baseless and borderline hateful towards a culture that may be a little different speaking or acting than other parts of the country.
For example: it's your opinion those are the words I said, and how I meant them. Where in fact they are not.
I would like to point out, that someone who has southern charm, is acually quite intellectual. My best friend, born and raised in South Carolina has the same type of grammar, pronunciation as Paula Deen. You know why?
It was how they spoke in her area! Who would have guessed??? Guess what she is right now! She is taking Calculus at the age of 15. So far she has aced it. So saying someone that has "southern charm" promotes idiocy is (in my opinion) very wrong.
Also, I was born in Virginia, moved to Alabama before I was one. Spent years there, moved to SC. I have not ONCE heard someone say nigger in public, or in private. There is the exception of trials that you hear on the news when that is part of the evidence, but I have yet to hear it.
"So saying someone that has "southern charm" promotes idiocy is (in my opinion) very wrong".
Luckily no one in this thread said that. That would be a very silly thing for someone to say,
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Yes it would, I know some very intelligent people down in Georgia.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 24, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
"So saying someone that has "southern charm" promotes idiocy is (in my opinion) very wrong".
Luckily no one in this thread said that. That would be a very silly thing for someone to say,
It's like no one understood the context in which you were speaking. I understood 100% and as someone raised in the south, I was not offended.
This is why I don't try very hard to argue with people on here (or on the Internet in general.) People jump to conclusions and don't use their noggins appropriately.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 24, 2013, 01:36:09 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 24, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
"So saying someone that has "southern charm" promotes idiocy is (in my opinion) very wrong".
Luckily no one in this thread said that. That would be a very silly thing for someone to say,
It's like no one understood the context in which you were speaking. I understood 100% and as someone raised in the south, I was not offended.
This is why I don't try very hard to argue with people on here (or on the Internet in general.) People jump to conclusions and don't use their noggins appropriately.
Precisely. It isn't my first day on the internet, and on some level I know I will be misunderstood, ive have come to actually expect it. It's frustrating occasionally, because the Internet is the worst at portraying rational debate, but I at least expect that it doesn't HAVE to be - considering what I've meant to say is written for all to see.
I'd never call all southerners dumb, or anything else. That's what crazy people think. That is the exact "hate filled simplicity" that I'm against.
I apologize if I misread or misinterpreted the statement. At the time it seemed like you were bashing southerners and I wasn't okay with that.