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Title: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 20, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
New Commander product due out ... November 1st, 2013. Five new decks. 15 new cards in each deck. 51 new cards.

Sneak preview of new Commander Jeleva. Three color shard decks for this product.
Jevela, Nephalia's Scourge (link) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPo7y15CQAA8lFE.jpg) - Grixis

Thank you Dudecore for that!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: scarsabrex on July 21, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
That is one broken commander... I had to read it twice to figure out why X even mattered.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 12:41:50 AM
Any American ones?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on July 21, 2013, 12:46:38 AM
Im always salivating for more Esper colour combination Commanders!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on July 21, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
I'm so pumped for this set...at least it shouldn't be inflated like FTV
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:00:33 AM
Repeat: Any USA burn/control ones? I really need to know.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Darius on July 21, 2013, 01:05:14 AM
New jund commander:

http://i.imgur.com/62yNOPG.jpg
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Darius on July 21, 2013, 01:06:21 AM
Also mlerner I think they are all supposed to be based off the shards sadly. I would love another American general
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:18:15 AM
I need one, was there ever one?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:27:59 AM
KOBLODS!!!!!!!!!!!

They Koblod legend has to be in that deck! 

{Rohgahh of Kher Keep}
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:31:29 AM
Fbplth. Just... yes.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:31:48 AM
By the way, they have said that the X thing with the commander abilities is in each one.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:33:11 AM
Are there any mill ones? Trying a mill commander deck πŸ˜†. Somehow it works!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Darius on July 21, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
For American generals there are:
{Numot, the Devastator}
{Zedruu the Greathearted}
{Ruhan of the Fomori}
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Arbitratur on July 21, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?

BRW
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:48:57 AM
Quote from: Arbitratur on July 21, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?

BRW
Thanks
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:49:02 AM
Quote from: Arbitratur on July 21, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?

BRW
The Aristocrats.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:49:02 AM
Quote from: Arbitratur on July 21, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?

BRW
The Aristocrats.
The aristocrats is a deck... Not a color combo
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:51:01 AM
Really? I thought the deck names thread said aristocrats. Guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:00:15 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:51:01 AM
Really? I thought the deck names thread said aristocrats. Guess I was wrong.
Yeah, oh well, +1 for not being a douche when you were corrected like a lot of people do.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 02:02:46 AM
Thanks, +1 for not being a douche because I was wrong.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:06:21 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 02:02:46 AM
Thanks, +1 for not being a douche because I was wrong.
Why thank you kind sir ;)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on July 21, 2013, 04:26:48 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:33:11 AM
Are there any mill ones? Trying a mill commander deck πŸ˜†. Somehow it works!
try {Oona, Queen of the Fae} if you get impatient before CII comes out...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 07:44:28 AM
Lol whenever I put in ESPER it goes to caps like that.  Don't know why
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Keyeto on July 21, 2013, 12:10:29 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 01:33:11 AM
Are there any mill ones? Trying a mill commander deck πŸ˜†. Somehow it works!
If you'd like, I can bump my {Damia, Sage of Stone} mill EDH deck for you. It works well, and is a blast to play! For someone who loves milling, at least ;)

I'm pretty excited to see what they come out with. I like that the Grixis commander plays off of the "command zone" rule to boost its effect. Looking forward to some more creative cards like that!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 12:12:16 PM
No, thanks. I just made it modern, posted it. "Mill Kill".
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Birdbrain on July 27, 2013, 08:49:58 PM
No. He means NAYA, band, esper, Jund, grixis

By the way. What does the naya one look like?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Lovely Fairy on July 30, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
I think I like {Ruhan of the Fomori} because you can be like sorry couldn't controle were he hit lol.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: JustAWalrus on August 06, 2013, 11:54:42 PM
Im sorry, I couldn't hear you over the power of my DEGA deck.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Moneekahh on August 07, 2013, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: Lovely Fairy on July 30, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
I think I like {Ruhan of the Fomori} because you can be like sorry couldn't controle were he hit lol.

That's why he is my 1v1 commander! 😈
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on August 07, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 20, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
New Commander product due out ... November 1st, 2013. Five new decks. 15 new cards in each deck. 51 new cards.

Sneak preview of new Commander Jeleva. Three color shard decks for this product.
Jevela, Nephalia's Scourge (link) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPo7y15CQAA8lFE.jpg) - Grixis

Thank you Dudecore for that!

I don't get the x part
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on August 07, 2013, 03:43:23 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 07, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 20, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
New Commander product due out ... November 1st, 2013. Five new decks. 15 new cards in each deck. 51 new cards.

Sneak preview of new Commander Jeleva. Three color shard decks for this product.
Jevela, Nephalia's Scourge (link) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPo7y15CQAA8lFE.jpg) - Grixis

Thank you Dudecore for that!

I don't get the x part
When a Commander of a deck dies you can cast it again for an extra {2} on top of what ever you cast it for last time.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on August 07, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
Ohhhh true ok that's pretty cool
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: xStrayKnightx on August 08, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
For Commander I like the idea of newer cards for sets like this. I'd like to see more RWB cards.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on August 09, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on August 08, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
For Commander I like the idea of newer cards for sets like this. I'd like to see more RWB cards.
There won't be any.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: xStrayKnightx on August 10, 2013, 04:29:33 AM
I know that. I'm just a little disappointed by the lack of complete colour combinations. Instead of using a block for inspiration, in this case Alara, why not just create a bunch of brand new creatures that fit into every possible combination of two, three, four colours.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: whitedrake on August 13, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
Quote from: Arbitratur on July 21, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 21, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
This time the colors will be naya, bant, Grixis, ESPER, and jund.

Last time it was BUG, Dega, RUG, Junk, and American
Dega?

BRW

Imho UGLY...;)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 10:12:09 AM
I hope Esper has a modern frame, new art version of {Dromar, the Banisher}. Preferably as an alternate general in foil. *drool*
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on September 13, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 10:12:09 AM
I hope Esper has a modern frame, new art version of {Dromar, the Banisher}. Preferably as an alternate general in foil. *drool*
Lol...that would be nice, but if last set of commander dictates only the large commander cards will be foil.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
How do you get into commander?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 03:41:51 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
How do you get into commander?

Get friends to play. It's a great casual multiplayer format. It's not as much fun to play against competitive people - too many powerful cards and broken combos.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Almosteric on September 16, 2013, 04:01:04 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
How do you get into commander?

it is by far my favorite format.  so much fun and all of the craziness that goes along with having 5 or 6 people in a pod.  picking alliances, endless situations.  some crazy good combos and just all and all a good time. 
try and make a deck that is fun to play and you will have a good time.  its not all about winning!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
You can get your inner Johnny/Timmy out. Crazy expensive costed cards are easier to play, long drawn out combos are easier, and it's cheaper. While certain EDH staples are expensive - you only need one. I write all about it in the Commander guide in the commander sub forum
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: izik99 on September 17, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I made a commander deck and confirmed with my friends that they would too. They backed out, and after having absolutely zero chances to play with it, I sold the deck. A week ago my friend built a freaking commander deck and asked me to make one (the same one that had backed out earlier). I'm like πŸ˜‘πŸ”«
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: izik99 on September 17, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I made a commander deck and confirmed with my friends that they would too. They backed out, and after having absolutely zero chances to play with it, I sold the deck. A week ago my friend built a freaking commander deck and asked me to make one (the same one that had backed out earlier). I'm like πŸ˜‘πŸ”«
something similar happened to me. My friend built a commander deck and I knew that it was pretty popular so I built one. Because it is eternal, I put quite a bit of money into it but then my friend took his apart. Luckily, another friend is trying to build one and I know at least one person at my LGS plays.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on September 17, 2013, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: izik99 on September 17, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I made a commander deck and confirmed with my friends that they would too. They backed out, and after having absolutely zero chances to play with it, I sold the deck. A week ago my friend built a freaking commander deck and asked me to make one (the same one that had backed out earlier). I'm like πŸ˜‘πŸ”«
something similar happened to me. My friend built a commander deck and I knew that it was pretty popular so I built one. Because it is eternal, I put quite a bit of money into it but then my friend took his apart. Luckily, another friend is trying to build one and I know at least one person at my LGS plays.

I'm thinking about remaking one that I took apart a little while ago, by the way I'm that friend of agrus', yeah I'm that guy
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on September 17, 2013, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 17, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: izik99 on September 17, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I made a commander deck and confirmed with my friends that they would too. They backed out, and after having absolutely zero chances to play with it, I sold the deck. A week ago my friend built a freaking commander deck and asked me to make one (the same one that had backed out earlier). I'm like πŸ˜‘πŸ”«
something similar happened to me. My friend built a commander deck and I knew that it was pretty popular so I built one. Because it is eternal, I put quite a bit of money into it but then my friend took his apart. Luckily, another friend is trying to build one and I know at least one person at my LGS plays.

I'm thinking about remaking one that I took apart a little while ago, by the way I'm that friend of agrus', yeah I'm that guy
^^^Yay!!! I can finally use my commander deck! The deck Chris is putting together is going to take forever...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Almosteric on September 18, 2013, 12:33:07 PM
A lot of LGS host commander leagues. I played in one. Every week there would be a list of achievements you could complete. Like "remove three commanders from the game" "kill everyone in one turn"  "have 20 creatures in play". We got points for each achievement then at the end of the league prizes were handed out based on points!  Tons of fun.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 18, 2013, 10:08:54 PM
thanks for the help, but my LGS is kind of lazy. For a couple of months they were even delinquent and didn't get stuff for the M14 prerelease or FNM Promos. I will finally get to play my first Commander game Friday though, against a guy at FNM on the off time.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
No just Esper. There is no other.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: gtfotis on September 26, 2013, 04:16:24 PM
I finally gave in and I'm in the process of building a commander deck! Idc if I don't have anyone to play with, I'm keeping it!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
^^haha, did that last month too.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 02, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
When will they release all the deck lists???? In getting impattttiiiieennnnnttttttt
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 02, 2013, 06:57:05 PM
I want that koblod deck once it comes out.  Mmmm.... Kobolds....
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 02, 2013, 09:10:47 PM
Can someone find a spoiler link?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: JustAWalrus on October 04, 2013, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
No just Esper. There is no other.

I think he meant naya, bant, esper, jund, and
G
R
I
X
I
S
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 04, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on October 04, 2013, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
No just Esper. There is no other.

I think he meant naya, bant, esper, jund, and
G
R
I
X
I
S
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He clearly meant creatures, zombies, knights, dragons, and
        🌟🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
  🌟ESPER🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
        🌟🌟
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 04, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on October 04, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on October 04, 2013, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
No just Esper. There is no other.

I think he meant naya, bant, esper, jund, and
G
R
I
X
I
S
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He clearly meant creatures, zombies, knights, dragons, and
        🌟🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
  🌟ESPER🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
        🌟🌟
no, just Esper
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 04, 2013, 11:00:40 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 04, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on October 04, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on October 04, 2013, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 26, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on September 26, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 21, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
Surely you mean naya, BANT!, esper, grixis, and jund :)
Wrong pretty sure he meant naya, bant, esper, GRIXIS!, and jund ;)

Actually I'm pretty sure you mean naya, bant, ESPER, GRIXIS, and JUND!
No just Esper. There is no other.

I think he meant naya, bant, esper, jund, and
G
R
I
X
I
S
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He clearly meant creatures, zombies, knights, dragons, and
        🌟🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
  🌟ESPER🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
        🌟🌟
no, just Esper
More like boring, deadly boring, for hipsters, Sarkhan, and
        🌟🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
  🌟ESPER🌟
     πŸŒŸ      🌟
        🌟🌟
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 05, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Honestly, if I meant anything (because it was an accident) I would say GRIXIS!!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 07, 2013, 01:58:51 AM
New card!!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146513&d=1381123947
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: imthelolrus on October 07, 2013, 02:12:28 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 07, 2013, 01:58:51 AM
New card!!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146513&d=1381123947
That bird wizard rules ;O
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 07, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on October 07, 2013, 02:12:28 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 07, 2013, 01:58:51 AM
New card!!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146513&d=1381123947
That bird wizard rules ;O
So you can pay {1}{W}{U}{G} and never have to worry about paying an additional {2} for each time?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 07, 2013, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 07, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on October 07, 2013, 02:12:28 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 07, 2013, 01:58:51 AM
New card!!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146513&d=1381123947
That bird wizard rules ;O
So you can pay {1}{W}{U}{G} and never have to worry about paying an additional {2} for each time?

Apparently
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 07, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
Also, that makes it instant speed, and since it isn't cast you don't add mana to the next casting. It matters for cards like {paralectric feedback}
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 07, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Well guys, time to play bant birds.  Birdbrain will like this commander. ;)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
http://mtgfan.tumblr.com/post/63394668613

Real? Are we now getting foil commanders?!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 07, 2013, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
http://mtgfan.tumblr.com/post/63394668613

😱
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
What are the official rules on the command zone? Looks like you can put that Bird Wizard in the command zone even if it is not your commander? True?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 07, 2013, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
What are the official rules on the command zone? Looks like you can put that Bird Wizard in the command zone even if it is not your commander? True?
The ability pulls it from the command zone. O don't know anything that puts things there
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 07, 2013, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
What are the official rules on the command zone? Looks like you can put that Bird Wizard in the command zone even if it is not your commander? True?
The ability pulls it from the command zone. O don't know anything that puts things there

Ha! You're right! Read that card completely wrong, lol
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 07, 2013, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 07, 2013, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 07, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
What are the official rules on the command zone? Looks like you can put that Bird Wizard in the command zone even if it is not your commander? True?
The ability pulls it from the command zone. O don't know anything that puts things there

Ha! You're right! Read that card completely wrong, lol
Well, with them making cards specifically for the format and there being 15 new cards in each EDH deck, there could be a possibility there may be an "exile target card to the command zone". Just hypothesising.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: ThassaDevoted on October 07, 2013, 10:10:15 PM
That would be really cool to see. A cheap card that sends the commander back to the command zone. I believe that only the chosen commander can be sent there. I am not sure if you could send another creature there. Either way, I can't wait to see where they go with 2013
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 08, 2013, 03:16:04 AM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html

There's our new commanders
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on October 08, 2013, 03:23:50 AM
With the Naya one or really any of them say my opponent has a  {Chill} in play does my commander now cost 2 more to play therefor entering with 5 counters?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 08, 2013, 08:55:22 AM
Esper dude is pretty cool. Some card advantage and staying power. I don't really like the fact the Naya one bypasses a commander rule that makes the format unique. But hey, that's wizards for ya.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Moneekahh on October 08, 2013, 01:03:45 PM
Naya, esper, and bant ones are all really great. I love that the esper gives you a bonus even when he is in the command zone, so unique. I can't wait to see what new cards they come up with for this set. Envisioning lots of "command zone" based spells. :)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on October 08, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
That Bant commander is bonkers! Esper commander is really good.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 09, 2013, 01:15:34 AM
I just saw the packaging. Are we not getting jumbo commanders anymore?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MementoMori on October 09, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
It says on the packaging that it includes "three oversized, foil commander cards."
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 09, 2013, 10:41:17 AM
I want one esper one to be a {Zur, the Enchanter} 😍😘
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: LadyGrixis on October 09, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
Grixis. Jevela. Just sickeningly great.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 09, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on October 09, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
Grixis. Jevela. Just sickeningly great.
TESTIFY!!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 14, 2013, 01:18:15 AM
New spoilers up!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 14, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 08, 2013, 03:16:04 AM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 14, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
I hope eye of doom is a real thing. If so, {Triad of fates} became a viable commander.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 14, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 14, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
I hope eye of doom is a real thing. If so, {Triad of fates} became a viable commander.
Eye of Doom? Got a link to which you speak?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 14, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html
At the very bottom
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on October 14, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
I like that new grixis commander and that they finished the Force cycle...the bane of progress is really cool.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 15, 2013, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 14, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html
At the very bottom
Oh cooooool!!! I've never look all the way lower than the Esper Commander. Yep, I'll have a playset please! I'm hoping it's actually in the Esper deck so I don't HAVE to get the Esperian one AND another!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Ragnar on October 15, 2013, 02:13:15 AM
Is Purphoros a good commander? I'm thinking of replacing Krenko with this monster

{Purphoros, God of the Forge}
{Krenko, Mob Boss}
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 15, 2013, 02:20:39 AM
Quote from: Ragnar on October 15, 2013, 02:13:15 AM
Is Purphoros a good commander? I'm thinking of replacing Krenko with this monster

{Purphoros, God of the Forge}
{Krenko, Mob Boss}
Yeah he is, but a different strategy for each. You'd be wise to put Krenko in the deck if you do the swap.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 15, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
They nerfed doubling season...  Ok.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 15, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 15, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
They nerfed doubling season...  Ok.
its a good thing though! Now you can have three of then in one deck! {Doubling Season}, {Parallel Lives} and this new Vigor one.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 15, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 15, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 15, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
They nerfed doubling season...  Ok.
its a good thing though! Now you can have three of then in one deck! {Doubling Season}, {Parallel Lives} and this new Vigor one.

Yikes, imagine four of each on the battlefield
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 15, 2013, 06:09:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on October 15, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
The new one doesn't double loyalty counters, thank goodness.  Modern doesn't need an easier planeswalker ultimate right off the bat.
These aren't modern legal. They are legacy legal but not modern
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on October 15, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
At the very bottom of the spoilers page...I new sorcery with a new mechanic..tempting offer...that mechanic seems so fun...the card also seems really fun....Tempt with Immortality is the card name
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 15, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
There's now a new {U} creature up too, A DJINN!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 15, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on October 15, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
At the very bottom of the spoilers page...I new sorcery with a new mechanic..tempting offer...that mechanic seems so fun...the card also seems really fun....Tempt with Immortality is the card name
Hopefully there are a lot of new cards with this mechanic. Imagine a burn spell with it!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on October 16, 2013, 08:22:14 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 15, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on October 15, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
At the very bottom of the spoilers page...I new sorcery with a new mechanic..tempting offer...that mechanic seems so fun...the card also seems really fun....Tempt with Immortality is the card name
Hopefully there are a lot of new cards with this mechanic. Imagine a burn spell with it!
Tempt with Anger                                 {2}{R}{R}
Tempting Offer- When you cast this spell deal 3 damage to target creature or player. If you do, any other players may deal 3 damage to target player. For each player that does, deal 4 damage to target creature or player.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Shadridium on October 16, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
A colored Karn??? Yes please!!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 16, 2013, 06:41:56 PM
I Like the new 3cc merfolk... 3/1 protection from players
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 16, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: S717 on October 14, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 08, 2013, 03:16:04 AM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 16, 2013, 08:02:09 PM
Damn it! I just made my commander deck and now the release an awesome new esper artifact commander!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147134&d=1381896070
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Shadridium on October 16, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
^ same exact problem
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Destore117 on October 17, 2013, 01:36:52 AM
I'm seeing a lot of Heroic shenanigans coming with this set...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MementoMori on October 17, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
No, only in Legacy.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on October 17, 2013, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: MementoMori on October 17, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
No, only in Legacy.


Legacy Merfolk!!!

But who's your guys favorite legendary creature so far? Mine has to be nekusar. He just does some awesome things I like in a commander. Alright you draw two take two. I draw two take none
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 17, 2013, 10:13:44 PM
anyone seen latest spoilers???
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 17, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
I'm thinking Tezzeret is making an appearance in the Esper deck.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 17, 2013, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 17, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
I'm thinking Tezzeret is making an appearance in the Esper deck.
YES! Which one? I hope the Seeker
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 17, 2013, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 17, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
I'm thinking Tezzeret is making an appearance in the Esper deck.
he better, that deck looks awesome! :)

grrr...  I can't choose between grixis and esper right now.....
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 17, 2013, 10:26:26 PM
Trying to decide between Naya, Esper and Bant...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on October 17, 2013, 10:27:06 PM
Love me some grixis
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 17, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
Esper. Always. Esper.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 17, 2013, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on October 17, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
Esper. Always. Esper.
Yes, but I already have an esper commander deck so I wouldn't mind using a Bant or Naya for once
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 17, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
What's better than an Esper and a Naya deck?

Two Esper decks. 😜
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 17, 2013, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 17, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
What's better than an Esper and a Naya deck?

Two Esper decks. 😜
What's even better than a {Timetwister}?

Esper :-*
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 18, 2013, 02:21:20 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 14, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 08, 2013, 03:16:04 AM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/commander-2013-spoiler.html

Full set spoiled! Now we're just waiting to see the decklists :)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 02:39:28 AM
3 drop Karn ... I'm going Esper
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 03:16:01 AM
Holy cow!!! {W}{U}{B} got the goods!

As always, I'm an Esperian. If you need me, I'll be at the {Arcane Sanctum}.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 18, 2013, 07:06:36 AM
Meh...I don't know what to get!!! It seems Esper is the only good deck but I want to get one of the other ones because I already have an esper deck...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Falcon182 on October 18, 2013, 09:55:12 AM
Other commander products had lots of legacy playable cards. This one doesn't seem to have any at all. Bummer!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: imthelolrus on October 18, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
Pretty excited for some of these cards. I really want to see the entire deck lists before I make my final decision
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 18, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
Full decklists are up, reprinting {baleful strix} makes me a little sad but I thjnk ill buy esper and grixis if I can
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: imthelolrus on October 18, 2013, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 18, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
Full decklists are up, reprinting {baleful strix} makes me a little sad but I thjnk ill buy esper and grixis if I can
Aw yeah, that's awesome I'll have to check after work! :D
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 18, 2013, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 18, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
Full decklists are up, reprinting {baleful strix} makes me a little sad but I thjnk ill buy esper and grixis if I can

Can you post a link to the lists?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 18, 2013, 12:09:10 PM
http://wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/269c
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on October 18, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
I dunno but grixis looks fun and so does esper. Those are the ones I care about
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Quisequise on October 18, 2013, 02:08:32 PM
I've never played commander but these decks look really cool.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 18, 2013, 02:31:16 PM
Oooo modern frame {Dromar's Cavern}. Could be worth a look.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
WHAT?!?! No Tezzie in Esper deck?! *flips table* No Planeswalkers at all?!?! *flips flipped table*
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Now I've calmed down, Esper and maybe Bant it is.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: xStrayKnightx on October 18, 2013, 07:45:52 PM
I might just get all of them and harvest the cards I want. Namely Angel of Finality.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on October 18, 2013, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on October 18, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
WHAT?!?! No Tezzie in Esper deck?! *flips table* No Planeswalkers at all?!?! *flips flipped table*
we got so much more!!!

both grixis and esper look like a lot of fun.  Come on santa...
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: imthelolrus on October 18, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
Yay for judge promo art! The new  {Goblin Sharpshooter} is great too.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 18, 2013, 10:20:34 PM
I wanted to preorder the new merfolk... But nooo... SCG had it at like 12.... Nope!!!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MarduArrow on October 19, 2013, 01:49:23 AM
Interesting, they opted not to reprint the dragons (Rith, Darigaaz, Treva, Crosis, and Dromar)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on October 19, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 19, 2013, 01:49:23 AM
Interesting, they opted not to reprint the dragons (Rith, Darigaaz, Treva, Crosis, and Dromar)

I honestly like the ones they made though instead of em.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 19, 2013, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on October 19, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
Quote from: S717 on October 19, 2013, 01:49:23 AM
Interesting, they opted not to reprint the dragons (Rith, Darigaaz, Treva, Crosis, and Dromar)

I honestly like the ones they made though instead of em.
Same!
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on October 19, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
Does anyone notice some similarities in art between  {Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter} and {Oloro, Ageless Ascetic} the new Esper commander?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 19, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
All I can see similar is the posture in the picture? Is that what you mean? Because I can't see anything in abilities that is similar.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on October 19, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
Just the art.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 19, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on October 19, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
Just the art.
Then yeah for sure! They both look bored 'lets pillage something!'
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on October 19, 2013, 09:44:45 PM
The two decks I like most are esper and grixis
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 19, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
New Commander decks seem very capable for new players getting into the format. There is nothing there for me and my deck, but the 'Tempting Offer' stuff seems like it could be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: lotrwk on October 19, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
I like the esper deck the most, but I really like the Naya commander
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on October 19, 2013, 10:30:42 PM
Because of the reprints and deck synergy, I've changed my desire to Esper, Bant AND Grixis.

Thank you πŸŽ…
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 20, 2013, 12:04:44 AM
It appears that the new Bant Merfolk dude (with protection from player) and Esper deck are preordering for slightly more then other decks at this time. Wish I had an answer why. So some of these may not be available for MSRP.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 20, 2013, 12:10:28 AM
The {True-Name Nemesis} (the pro-player merfolk dude) are preordering at $19.99.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Coffee Vampire on October 20, 2013, 02:27:02 AM
If you think about it, there isn't a lot someome can do against a 3/1 with pritection against its opponent. Sac...wrath? That's it. No combat. No nothing.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on October 20, 2013, 12:51:10 PM
Most of the preorder prices just doubled. Good thing I got one for $25 :)
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 20, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
You could always get them for MSRP on MTGO. The other commander decks are available still, and From the Vault 20 (for $39.99).
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on October 20, 2013, 01:11:59 PM
So do you think when they release they will be MSRP? Like could I go to my LGS or like Walmart and get one for $30?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on October 20, 2013, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on October 20, 2013, 01:11:59 PM
So do you think when they release they will be MSRP? Like could I go to my LGS or like Walmart and get one for $30?

If big box stores are carrying it, yes, but supply will be limited. LGS might charge more, online retailers are already charging more.
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 09:31:41 AM
I know this is a bad question but I just want to know.

Strictly for monetary value what commander deck is worth the most? Like what deck of the upcoming ones has the most money?
Title: Re: Commander II (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 20, 2013, 12:10:28 AM
The {True-Name Nemesis} (the pro-player merfolk dude) are preordering at $19.99.

That much already? He was 11.99 a few days ago...