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Title: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 09, 2013, 10:37:25 AM
Anyone watching it? How do you feel about Dr. Vogel? Does she bore you as much as she bores me? Do you just want to dump a bottle of shampoo and conditioner on Deb's head? Do you have any interesting theories as to what Vogel's true agenda is? I want to see what other people are thinking of the series' final season.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Agarrita80 on July 09, 2013, 12:16:17 PM
Just started season 4 ill let you know soon enough
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 09, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Agarrita80 on July 09, 2013, 12:16:17 PM
Just started season 4 ill let you know soon enough

Aw man! Four is my favorite season! It's so good. John Lithgow is such a great villain.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Crapshooter on July 09, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
I like Vogel, but I love psychology, she does seem overly needy and as for deb she just needs a good slap from reality so she can man up.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 09, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on July 09, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
I like Vogel, but I love psychology, she does seem overly needy and as for deb she just needs a good slap from reality so she can man up.

Hahahah. Previews for the week's episode set it up that Deb is going to confess everything. But you know how the previews can be. Always throwing curve balls, and nothing is ever as it seems.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Crapshooter on July 09, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
True and Vogel might become the next Miguel
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: That_Guy on July 10, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
Whats dexter actually about? I think hes like a murderer doctor or something idk, tell me if im wrong, also whats the plot?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 10, 2013, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 10, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
Whats dexter actually about? I think hes like a murderer doctor or something idk, tell me if im wrong, also whats the plot?

In short, he's a serial killer that only kills bad people. He works for the Miami Police Department as a blood spatter analyst, so he has his ear to the ground and knows how to not get caught. His father noticed his need to kill and helped sculpt him into what he is. I highly recommend watching it.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 10, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
It's in its eighth and final season right now, so there's been numerous plots ranging from finding an emotional connection to someone (he is typically void of emotions in the first few seasons, the closest thing to an actual emotion being his relationship with his sister,) to internal struggles on whether he's doing a good thing or a bad thing.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Crapshooter on July 10, 2013, 03:48:16 PM
It is a great show with excellent character development
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: That_Guy on July 14, 2013, 08:49:06 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 10, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
It's in its eighth and final season right now, so there's been numerous plots ranging from finding an emotional connection to someone (he is typically void of emotions in the first few seasons, the closest thing to an actual emotion being his relationship with his sister,) to internal struggles on whether he's doing a good thing or a bad thing.
Awesome, sounds like i need to get watching...
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 09:00:26 AM
I knew Dexter would miraculously find a way out of getting exposed by Deb. Anyone else watch last night's episode? Vogel's true intentions will be exposed soon by the looks of the previews for the next episode.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 15, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
Who is Dexter remembers being called a sevvie?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 15, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
Who is Dexter remembers being called a sevvie?

Huh?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mlerner12 on July 15, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
Sorry, YouTube thing.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on July 15, 2013, 02:07:49 PM
I was a big fan of Season 1 and 2. It seems to have gone down hill fairly substantially since. The Trinity Killer wasn't the worst. The season with Travis "the Doomsday" killer was my breaking point - Dexter escaped the most preposterous situations, it was absolutely the worst season I've ever sat through of anything.

So far season 8 is ok? I don't like any of the scenes without Dexter because he's a compelling character. Everyone else is poorly written or has nothing at stake for me to care about. Dokes vs. Dexter was the best, everything else is derivative of that conflict.

I really just can't wait for it to end already. When a show has no clear "goal" of ending the series it turns out like Dexter. Shows like Breaking Bad, The Wire and others (mostly British shows) that plan to end at a certain point have much tighter archs, it keeps the limited amount of episodes more interesting. There are almost 5 seasons of Dexter that have BARELY anything to do with the final season.

How important is it to remember Jimmy Smits character? How about Lumen Pierce? The other girl that just went to prison?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
Doomsday was somehow worse than the Lumen season. For one, they killed my man Mos Def way too early. Two, I felt Travis being crazy was just a cop out. Three, I saw Dexter getting caught from a mile away. I like four the best because A) John Lithgow. And B) Dex did the most soul searching in that season.

Season Eight is worth watching solely for the fact that you've invested nearly a decade into the show. If the first few episodes of this season were the only ones ive seen of the entire show, I wouldn't be compelled to go back and watch the other seven seasons. The whole storyline with Deb (I won't give away much since you haven't seen it) is clunky and it's evident the writers don't (or didnt) know where they want/ed to take her character. At least it isn't apparent right now. They're trying to do too much, and it's basically turned into a soap opera. There's a storyline with Dex and Deb, Dex and another character, Quinn and Deb, Quinn and Batista's sister. There's no clear cut path they're trying to take. I wish they would find one plot point and stick with it.

I have a semi-distaste for the newer seaskn only because I love the show so much. It's the Star Wars complex in another form.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on July 15, 2013, 02:46:37 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
Season Eight is worth watching solely for the fact that you've invested nearly a decade into the show.

This is what all of my buddies who've been watching it told me. It's the same reason I watched part of season 7 before tapping out half way.

I actually have seen the first 3 episodes of this season (I believe that's all that has aired) and so far I don't care for it anymore. The writing is super lazy, Dexter is rarely at work, the established characters all interacting together is silly nonsense and I don't even know why I care about the Dexter character anymore.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 03:14:32 PM
Ah okay. I just misunderstood something and thought you haven't seen any of the new season.

Deb's storyline is the most disappointing. Being in love with Dex was the focal point of last season, and now it doesn't even exist. The acting is some of the best Jennifer Carpenter has done on the show. Too bad it's not believable for that character, even if it is because she shot LaGuerta.

Vogel's storyline is very, very lazily written. Seven years and all of a sudden we find out that Harry wasnt alone in developing the code? Get out of here. I understand the writers didnt have the entirety of the series mapped out from the beginning, but they could've done better than that.

I hope Hannah McKay doesn't come back. His involvement with her is even worse than the Lumen storyline. WHY is he attached to this girl? That didnt explain it all that well, other than she knows who he is.

Thinking in retrospect, compared to post season four, killing off Dokes was the worst decision they made. I hated his character, and now I realize it's because of my deep liking for Dexter. Dokes was trying to get in his way. Now, like you, I don't even care about the character that is Dexter, so if someone stood in his way, I wouldn't care as much as I did then.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 15, 2013, 03:17:31 PM
The biggest, most lazy and annoying piece of writing is Harrison WHERE IS HE?! He know Deb isn't watching him. Jamie is shacking up with Quinn at night, and Dexter is doing Vogel's bidding in the night hours WHERE IS YOUR KID AT?!
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on July 21, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
Closest thing to something interesting happened on tonight episode. First semi-compelling thing in 4 years.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 21, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Ah we got caught up watching This Is 40 and missed it. I'll have to watch it tomorrow and weigh in.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 22, 2013, 11:38:29 PM
Just watched it. I agree. It feels like we're finally getting somewhere. I was hoping Dexter wouldve actually drowned and the remainder of the season would've been Deb dealing with it or maybe even pick up where he left off. Inknew that wasnt going to happen, though.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: The Pyromancer on July 25, 2013, 12:14:43 AM
I've only seen commercials. I have absolutely no idea whatsoever this show is about.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: That_Guy on July 25, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
I didnt really like season one and season two so far is meh for me, hopefully it gets a bit better
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 25, 2013, 10:49:59 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on July 25, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
I didnt really like season one and season two so far is meh for me, hopefully it gets a bit better

It peaks at season four, in my opinion. Downhill after that. One is my second favorite. Two and three are okay.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on July 29, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
Dexter was a snooze fest again this week. I m emotionally unattached to this show now. At this point, I'm just keeping up with it for the closure of being with it for eight years. I could care less what happens to the characters.

If they do make a second generation Dexter by teaching the code to that little turd, I'll rage quit this series right then and there.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:18:56 AM
This absolutely, hands down, the worst show on television. The acting, the lack of consequences, things that just don't make sense, and ultimately a horrible ending (I read the spoilers for the last 6 episodes, they've all been spot on)

It is truly the worst show I've ever watched the most episodes of. Season 1 and 2 were impossible to top, and 6 seasons after you wonder why they even tried.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mlerner12 on September 16, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:18:56 AM
This absolutely, hands down, the worst show on television. The acting, the lack of consequences, things that just don't make sense, and ultimately a horrible ending (I read the spoilers for the last 6 episodes, they've all been spot on)

It is truly the worst show I've ever watched the most episodes of. Season 1 and 2 were impossible to top, and 6 seasons after you wonder why they even tried.
I dunno... Burn notice, I hear, was TERRIBLE...
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 16, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:18:56 AM
This absolutely, hands down, the worst show on television. The acting, the lack of consequences, things that just don't make sense, and ultimately a horrible ending (I read the spoilers for the last 6 episodes, they've all been spot on)

It is truly the worst show I've ever watched the most episodes of. Season 1 and 2 were impossible to top, and 6 seasons after you wonder why they even tried.

It's gotten pretty bad. Previous seasons were bearable but this one is just awful. The only thing that is possibly worse than Dexter is Walking Dead. Season one was so so good. After that, it sucked. They neutered the Governor, pussyfooted their way around killing Shane for too long, and made Andrea (arguably the second best character in the comics) the worst character in the series.

Breaking Bad, however, is .loving. phenomenal this season. Sons of Anarchy started off strong too.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 12:17:01 PM
Breaking Bad is the greatest show on television. I cannot bring up enough ways to describe how much better Breaking Bad is then Dexter.

Even the Dexter subreddit has an "official Breaking Bad" thread. Dexter is like the Phantom Menace of television, so anticipated and so exceedingly bad.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 16, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
Hahah beautifully put.

Did you watch last night's Breaking Bad?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 16, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
Also, I don't know when networks are going to learn that consistency is key to having a great show. Walking Dead and Dexter have had rotating showrunners and look how horrible they've turned out. Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy have had the same showrunner throughout and they're still pumping out good episodes/seasons. I could think of more examples but those are the only four shows on my radar right now. Trying to watch less TV and read more.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
List of things that ruined Dexter:
⚫the writers strike: when the writers strike happened, mostly all of them did not come back. New show runner, while the old writers got more attractive gigs.
⚫Season 2: it was so intense and everyone in the mainstream began to watch. They could not top it.
⚫Lithgow: was the best "villain of the week", and inevitably ruined it for everyone.



I did watch Breaking Bad. I can't believe they ended the series like that with 2 episodes left. The show has been a series of endings. It's sad to see what Walt's empire has become. There is also consequences for Walts actions, and characters people care about.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 16, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Spot on with Trinity. Michael C Hall said it himself that Trinity couldn't be topped, so they went more in the way of being dramatic.

It was crazy dude. The title for the episode, Ozymandias, could easily apply to the whole series. I just wanted everyone to live, even Hank. But they acknowledged it themselves that wasnt a possibility. Gilligan said that was the best episode in the series. I don't see how with two episodes left. I can't even wrap my head around last episode enough to start theorizing what's going to happen next.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 19, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=lBRvhIV81hY
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 19, 2013, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 19, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=lBRvhIV81hY

So bad. If you can't make something realistic (not that Dexter is realistic anymore, but you know what I mean,) then you should probably cut it. There was other things they could've done to get Hannah to leave the house.

Another unrealistic thing they did this season was a US Marshall not knowing Vogel's son was on Miami's top wanted list and getting himself killed. You mean to tell me that a federal agent is in Miami hunting a wanted criminal and somehow ANOTHER wanted criminal (who was at large for HOURS) slipped past his radar? UGH.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 19, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 19, 2013, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 19, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=lBRvhIV81hY

So bad. If you can't make something realistic (not that Dexter is realistic anymore, but you know what I mean,) then you should probably cut it. There was other things they could've done to get Hannah to leave the house.

Another unrealistic thing they did this season was a US Marshall not knowing Vogel's son was on Miami's top wanted list and getting himself killed. You mean to tell me that a federal agent is in Miami hunting a wanted criminal and somehow ANOTHER wanted criminal (who was at large for HOURS) slipped past his radar? UGH.

It's good to show resentment for your audience. Makes for some quality television.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Mercifully the most disappointing show ends tonight. I can't wait to see how Dexter escapes any responsibility for his actions, and hurts everyone around him. As long as Dexter is protected at all costs. Because that is, afterall, the reason we like show. Right guys? Hello? Is anyone out there? 
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Langku on September 22, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
I've been thinking of watching breaking bad, without revealimg plot spoilers what kept you interested?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
Quote from: Langku on September 22, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
I've been thinking of watching breaking bad, without revealimg plot spoilers what kept you interested?

It's compelling, intense, well acted and actually artistic. Metaphors and foreshadowing are expertly woven into narrative. Things actually matter and you know the characters care about them.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 12:31:05 PM
Quote from: Langku on September 22, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
I've been thinking of watching breaking bad, without revealimg plot spoilers what kept you interested?

Extremely well written, character development like no other, and the acting is so good. I didn't think the goofy dad from Malcolm in the Middle would be such a good villain (that you root for) before I started watching it, but he sold it really well. The first couple of episodes are slow but it kicks into high gear afterwards and has no problem keeping the adrenaline pumping throughout the entire series.

Also, Vince Gilligan wrote on the X-Files. Which is reason enough to watch it.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 12:34:37 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Mercifully the most disappointing show ends tonight. I can't wait to see how Dexter escapes any responsibility for his actions, and hurts everyone around him. As long as Dexter is protected at all costs. Because that is, afterall, the reason we like show. Right guys? Hello? Is anyone out there?

I'm just ready for it to be over. It's turned into a caricature of itself. 

Last two episodes of Breaking Bad will be 75 minutes instead of the normal 45. Yessss.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 12:34:37 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Mercifully the most disappointing show ends tonight. I can't wait to see how Dexter escapes any responsibility for his actions, and hurts everyone around him. As long as Dexter is protected at all costs. Because that is, afterall, the reason we like show. Right guys? Hello? Is anyone out there?

I'm just ready for it to be over. It's turned into a caricature of itself. 

Last two episodes of Breaking Bad will be 75 minutes instead of the normal 45. Yessss.

Well when you set the bar so low, even Dexter can manage to trip over it. That being said, I know the ending will not impress even the mightiest of Dexter devotes.

And yes, these episodes are longer - and I cannot wait. I will not be watching Dexter, probably not till whenever I get out of my stress induced coma (from Breaking Bad)
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 07:53:51 PM
AMC played "Shooter" before last weeks replay of Breaking Bad. If there is a heaven (which there is not) this is it.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 07:53:51 PM
AMC played "Shooter" before last weeks replay of Breaking Bad. If there is a heaven (which there is not) this is it.

The Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch movie?
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 22, 2013, 07:53:51 PM
AMC played "Shooter" before last weeks replay of Breaking Bad. If there is a heaven (which there is not) this is it.

The Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch movie?

Yep. I love it.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 22, 2013, 09:20:34 PM
I haven't seen it. I'll have to add it to my expanding Watch List. Seriously, that thing is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 23, 2013, 01:32:20 AM
Just watched the series finale. I have no words. Just...what? I imagine Michael C. Hall looking at the writer when he read the final scene and being like "Really? Is this where we're going?" The last ten minutes I was expecting Ashton Kutcher to step out and say "JK! You got Punk'd! Here's the real last scene."
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on September 23, 2013, 07:29:29 AM
Not only was the ending just completely stupid, the episode, the season built around it was completely terrible. I hated that ending.
Title: Re: Dexter (may contain spoilers)
Post by: That_Guy on September 25, 2013, 10:02:07 AM
Just finished it... Worst last episode ever!!!!