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Magic (The Gathering) => Discussion => Topic started by: BcBudds on July 07, 2013, 11:14:33 PM

Title: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: BcBudds on July 07, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
Just was looking at {sword of fire and ice} and {sword of light and shadow} foil prices the old ones are around 60 while new ones at 160

What's everyone's thoughts on this, you'd think the older ones would have less supply and thus cost more
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: NyghtHawk on July 07, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
Look on ebay and see if anyone is actually paying those prices firstly.

Part of the difference is people trying to get something high for the limited set but kind of foolish if you can buy the old ones for less than half.
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: Justinrevenant on July 07, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
My thought would be the newer ones you could use in modern and standard formats.the older ones might be out of rotation and therefore aren usable just collectible
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: NyghtHawk on July 08, 2013, 12:12:45 AM
Quote from: Justinrevenant on July 07, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
My thought would be the newer ones you could use in modern and standard formats.the older ones might be out of rotation and therefore aren usable just collectible
The modern masters swords are only modern legal as modern masters is not a standard format set. Legalities of all the cards are the same.
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: BcBudds on July 08, 2013, 12:44:58 AM
Yeah true I didn't check eBay
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: imthelolrus on July 08, 2013, 01:35:32 AM
Well, they are printed at mythic, with new art, limited set, etc, so I can see why it's valuable.. But yeah not worth paying that much. I didn't even want to spend 50$ on the judge promo. I'm happier owning a Chinese sword of fire and ice ;3
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: BcBudds on July 08, 2013, 02:31:51 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on July 08, 2013, 01:37:43 AM
I've been beginning to think that there is some sort of price fixing for modern masters stuff. How on earth are the new  {Tarmogoyf}s going for $5 more than the old one?

Surely, the influx in supply is greater than the people that "like" the new art better.

Old goyf looks better too IMO
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 08, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
Art and set effect price by precentages. This is a $100+ card where talking about, 3-6% is about right.

As for the sword, a new foil sword is far more rare than an old foil.
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 08, 2013, 02:28:39 PM
To me that indicates people spending a lot of money and/or trade value and wanting to see a high return for their investment.
Title: Re: New foil swords vs old foils
Post by: MuggyWuggy on July 08, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
It was stated a small amount of Tarms were printed for MM

Modern has had it's flame relit with MM, more
Modern decks are being made, people collect also, so Tarm is one of those "last one I need" for set collectors

My LGS are done this week/next week for MM drafts, so it's supply was killed in a short time also. Tarmygoyf may drop down a little, but I feel the limited amount of new ones will eventually stay higher than the originals.

I'm sure if we had stats of availability of cards it would make more sense. Tarm was also really hyped for MM so it's the hottest item other than swords and dark confidant for MM

I'm just still glad i pulled one without buying a box of this set