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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: swallowtail on June 27, 2013, 08:14:45 PM

Title: DotP 14 and Slivers and Deathtouch
Post by: swallowtail on June 27, 2013, 08:14:45 PM
Ok, I have out two {Predatory Sliver}s, so they are both 3/3. I attack with both, the computer defends with a 2/2 {Bloodhunter Bat}, and a 1/3 {Giant Scorpion} with deathtouch. In combat resolution, all 4 creatures are sent to the graveyard. ???

I thought all combat resolved concurrently, so the deathtouch to one sliver happens at the same time as the bat's 2 dmg to the other - the only thing I can think of is that they are saying deathtouch happens first, killing one, thus making the other one a 2/2 so it dies to the bat... Didn't think that was how deathtouch worked though?
Title: Re: DotP 14 and Slivers and Deathtouch
Post by: Keyeto on June 27, 2013, 08:20:37 PM
The second sliver will die, but not exactly in this way. All damage is done simultaneously, so your slivers are both 3/3 when they take damage. However, damage does not wear off until the end of the turn, so after combat (when your sliver becomes a 2/2 because of the other dying), your sliver will die.

And here's your ruling:

119.6. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=119.6.): Damage marked on a creature remains until the cleanup step, even if that permanent stops being a creature. If the total damage marked on a creature is greater than or equal to its toughness, that creature has been dealt lethal damage and is destroyed as a state-based action (see rule 704). All damage marked on a permanent is removed when it regenerates (see rule 701.12, "Regenerate") and during the cleanup step (see rule 514.2).
Title: Re: DotP 14 and Slivers and Deathtouch
Post by: swallowtail on June 27, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
Of course... Doh. Thank you sir.