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Title: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: XFatal on March 03, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
I'm building a deck, and I have a combo in mind. However, I don't even think it would work, due to wording.  Here's the scenario:

I have {Helvault}, {Bazaar Trader}, and {Phage, The Untouchable} in play. using the {Bazaar Trader}, I generously give Phage to my opponent, then exile her with the {Helvault}. If the {Helvault} is destroyed, I assume that I lose the game, due to being the technical owner of Phage, or my opponent, for being the controller? I would appreciate clarification :)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
Ya your ded😞
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: XFatal on March 03, 2012, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
Ya your ded😞

Oh, that's what I thought, oh well :( I'll have to find some other way to make this work, then...
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:21:04 PM
If there's a way to return it under controllers control, thatd work. Hmmmmm
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: BlackJester on March 03, 2012, 09:55:40 PM
Yeah, unless you sell them Phage in the middle of the game, you are still the owner.
An easier way is with {Summoner's Egg} in stead of {Helvault}.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
That brings up a question I've had for a while:
Do ETB effects trigger when control changes?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: BlackJester on March 03, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
Quote from: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
That brings up a question I've had for a while:
Do ETB effects trigger when control changes?
No. They never left the field, they just changed teams.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on March 03, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
That brings up a question I've had for a while:
Do ETB effects trigger when control changes?
No
Title: Re: Hypothetical Helvault scenario.
Post by: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker on March 03, 2012, 10:06:37 PM
Just checkin