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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Jetabor1 on June 19, 2013, 02:46:47 AM

Title: Cage of hands!
Post by: Jetabor1 on June 19, 2013, 02:46:47 AM
I was wondering about when you play an enchantment on the other players side. Who controls the enchantment and can they pay for  the abilities like on cage of hands? Also Armadillos cloak on another player creature does it still make me gain life or does the changing of the wording of life link stop that. Who gains the life?     Thanks
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Gorzo on June 19, 2013, 03:47:42 AM
{Cage of Hands}
{Armadillo Cloak}

Because you cast it, you are the controller of the aura, even if it is enchanting another player's permanent. So, for cage of hands, the the activated ability (to return the card to its owner's hand) can only be used by the controller, which is the one who cast it, even if was cast attached to an opponent's creature. If any player could use the ability, the card would have to specifically say otherwise (like {Feral Hydra})

Because of the wording of Armadillo Cloak, the controller of the cloak (not necessary the creature it's attached to) is the one who gains the life. The "you" referred to in the life gain clause is the controller of the aura.

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Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Jetabor1 on June 19, 2013, 08:54:30 AM
Thank you for your fast response I appreciate it!!!  but I had one more question I just remembered I found this rule the other day that I never read before-(Multiple instances of lifelink on the same object are redundant.) I am still under the impression that if a creature had two armadillos cloaks on it, it would have double life gain.
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 19, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
{armadillo cloak} is great because it isn't lifelink per se, which makes it stackable (non redundant). Unlike {unflinching courage}.
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Jetabor1 on June 19, 2013, 02:55:36 PM
Thank you!!
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Redrighthand on June 22, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
But if I enchanted an opponents creature with  {Armadillo Cloak} will it kill me before I gain the life, providing my life is lower than it's toughness.
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 22, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
I believe so. "Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life" tells me you take the damage then you gain the life. So ya, you'd bite it before you gained the life. That's my interpretation of the card however I have been wrong in the past...confirmation anybody?
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: scarsabrex on June 22, 2013, 07:23:59 PM
Confirmed
Title: Re: Cage of hands!
Post by: Redrighthand on June 22, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Makes sense as it is a trigger, which is what allows it to be stacked in the first place. Thanks all.