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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Melchizedek53 on June 12, 2013, 04:42:37 PM

Title: Blink
Post by: Melchizedek53 on June 12, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
If someone plays board a wipe and then say cloudshift is used does that save your creature from being destroyed?
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Kaleo42 on June 12, 2013, 05:03:08 PM
The wrath waits for the cloudshift to finish and then hits te creature anyways. Teleporting might save you from a {murder} but not an {earthquake}.
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Melchizedek53 on June 12, 2013, 05:44:54 PM
Ok lol
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Agarrita80 on June 12, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
Yeah if it targets the individual creature, then cloud shift will save it. But if it is a global kill spell then you cloudshift right into the blast dying anyways because it hasn't resolved yet.
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Paraluke on June 12, 2013, 08:15:17 PM
How does the rules talk about this?
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on June 13, 2013, 09:40:42 AM
This here is a prime example of how the stack works.
As per rule 111.1, a card is on the stack until it resolves or is removed somehow.

So for cloud shift to work you have to cast it before the spelling killing you creature would resolve. In the case of the single target kill spell this works, because when the creature re-enters the spell does not see its target and gets countered. When a card enters the battlefield it is counted as a new object even f it was already there before.
For example: murder cast on {Glory Seeker}
Stack
Top
Cloudshift
Murder ->  {Glory Seeker}
Bottom

Cloudshift resolves
Top
Murder-> where is my target????
Bottom

Murder can't see it's target because that {Glory Seeker} is technically a new creature.

With the case of the board wipe though
Top
Cloudshift -> {Glory Seeker}
{Day of Judgment} -> destroy all creatures
Bottom

Cloudshift resolves, {Glory Seeker} becomes a new creature, but on the battlefield since cloudshift has to fully resolve.   {Day of Judgment} then proceeds to resolve, sweeping up the {Glory Seeker} in its path, it doesn't care that it is shiny and new it fits the description of all creatures
Title: Re: Blink
Post by: Paraluke on June 13, 2013, 10:36:34 AM
Oh. Yea. Why didn't I think of that. Zzz.