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UR Delver - Pauper 60 cards, 0 sideboard 7 {Island} 7 {Mountain} 2 {Izzet Boilerworks} 4 {Izzet Guildgate} 20 lands 3 {Kiln Fiend} 4 {Nivix Cyclops} 3 {Delver of Secrets} 10 creatures 3 {Spectral Flight} 2 {Mana Leak} 3 {Lightning Bolt} 2 {Rift Bolt} 3 {Ponder} 3 {Gitaxian Probe} 2 {Counterspell} 1 {Daze} 2 {Brainstorm} 4 {Flame Slash} 2 {Fling} 3 {Mizzium Skin} 30 other spells Sideboard Notes: Getting deeper into pauper. This is the first deck in the format I've made. Going to make a reanimator next.

Did a 10 player pauper tournament amongst friends and delver took second, that's a crazy common

Quote from: Crisys on June 05, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
Did a 10 player pauper tournament amongst friends and delver took second, that's a crazy common

Yeah it's pretty silly, especially when you get out of standard and into the realm of amazing one and two drop instants/sorceries.

I miss {Ponder} :(

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

Me too 😥

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

oh,  {Ponder}...:'(

I play an Izzet Tempo deck in standard and my God I wish this deck was standard legal lol like it's just so good!!

Updated. Dropped {careful study}. Draw is good, discard is bad considering three of the four creatures get buffs from instants/sorceries. Brought in {spectral flight} for the evasion, plus its good with {fling}.

 {Brainstorm} is a common and you probably want to run 4 of {Delver} he is such a house on turn 1

Im thinking of dropping dragonnauts for another delver. Good call on {brainstorm}. I just need to figure out where to fit it in at. Thanks for the input!

Also 4 of  {Kiln Fiend} and  {Nivix Cyclops} with low end mana spells especially   {Gitaxian Probe} and playing 4  {Fling} just seems so good like with  {Nivix Cyclops} casting probe attacking for 4 then casting fling to do 7 more just seems super powerful

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

Don't worry, there is still {Serum Visions} :)

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Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

Don't worry, there is still {Serum Visions} :)

Lol that's why I had 7 of them!  Now I'm down to 5 :(

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 13, 2013, 09:22:21 PM

Quote from: IntoFire on June 11, 2013, 10:33:11 AM

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

Don't worry, there is still {Serum Visions} :)

Lol that's why I had 7 of them!  Now I'm down to 5 :(

🙀. I assume that's a $2.50 card because {ponder} isn't legal in modern.

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Quote from: IntoFire on June 11, 2013, 10:33:11 AM

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 05, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
I miss {Ponder} :(

Don't worry, there is still {Serum Visions} :)

Lol that's why I had 7 of them!  Now I'm down to 5 :(

🙀. I assume that's a $2.50 card because {ponder} isn't legal in modern.

That's my best guess.  Makes me wonder what {Ponder} would look like if it was not banned.  Same with {Preordain}

The fact that {preordain} is banned in modern is way beyond my comprehension. I just don't understand it.

Maybe DCI discovered some broken way to use it?

{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

Quote from: MisterJH on June 15, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

It is. That's why im baffled as to why {preordain} is banned but {serum visions} is not.

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Quote from: MisterJH on June 15, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

It is. That's why im baffled as to why {preordain} is banned but {serum visions} is not.

With {serum visions} you're drawing a card blind THEN scrying.  With {preordain} you're scrying first THEN drawing a card.  You get the card you want NOW rather than waiting a turn.  {Preordain} is almost always better, unless the blind draw gives you what you want.

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Quote from: Mikefrompluto on June 15, 2013, 11:53:10 AM

Quote from: MisterJH on June 15, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

It is. That's why im baffled as to why {preordain} is banned but {serum visions} is not.

With {serum visions} you're drawing a card blind THEN scrying.  With {preordain} you're scrying first THEN drawing a card.  You get the card you want NOW rather than waiting a turn.  {Preordain} is almost always better, unless the blind draw gives you what you want.

Agreed

Quote from: adventus on June 15, 2013, 12:14:56 PM

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on June 15, 2013, 11:53:10 AM

Quote from: MisterJH on June 15, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

It is. That's why im baffled as to why {preordain} is banned but {serum visions} is not.

With {serum visions} you're drawing a card blind THEN scrying.  With {preordain} you're scrying first THEN drawing a card.  You get the card you want NOW rather than waiting a turn.  {Preordain} is almost always better, unless the blind draw gives you what you want.

Im just looking at the fact that serum lets you dig deeper. Unless you decide to throw the cards from preordain on the bottom and then draw a card.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on June 15, 2013, 04:59:20 PM

Quote from: adventus on June 15, 2013, 12:14:56 PM

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on June 15, 2013, 11:53:10 AM

Quote from: MisterJH on June 15, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
{preordain} seems worse than {serum visions} to me.. But hey, im just a guy and stuff man

It is. That's why im baffled as to why {preordain} is banned but {serum visions} is not.

With {serum visions} you're drawing a card blind THEN scrying.  With {preordain} you're scrying first THEN drawing a card.  You get the card you want NOW rather than waiting a turn.  {Preordain} is almost always better, unless the blind draw gives you what you want.

Im just looking at the fact that serum lets you dig deeper. Unless you decide to throw the cards from preordain on the bottom and then draw a card.

I guess but if you want a specific card  {Preordain} is much better

I personally like {Preordain} more just because you can pick and choose.  With {Serum Visions}, you can draw into your 10th land, but with {Preordain}, you can ship it and possibly draw into something useful.

Hey guys, I started a thread in discussion about scrying situations and the best cards to use.  Let's move this discussion there.  I think other would enjoy this...