What happens if my opponent [card]Clone[/card]s my Gideon creature? I asked my local L2 and he really had no clue. He said it had something to do with layering or something but he didn't know the outcome.
{Clone}
{Gideon Jura}
{Gideon, Champion of Justice}
Straight from the rulings
6/15/2010 If you activate Gideon Jura's third ability and then a permanent that's already on the battlefield becomes a copy of him, that copy will be just a planeswalker, not a creature. If the original Gideon Jura is still on the battlefield by the time the copy effect happens, each of those permanents will be put into his owner's graveyard as a state-based action due to the "planeswalker uniqueness rule." If the original Gideon Jura is gone by this time, the other permanent will be put into his owner's graveyard as a state-based action for having no loyalty counters on him (unless, for some odd reason, he already had loyalty counters on him).
Same happens if it copies WHILE entering the battlefield, the only difference being thy enter with loyalty counters
Quote from: Mentonin on June 04, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Same happens if it copies WHILE entering the battlefield, the only difference being thy enter with loyalty counters
How do you copy a permenant while its entering the bf? Isn't that just the state change between being a "summon planeswalker spell" on the stack into actually being a permenant on the bf. I don't think that action uses the stack so you would have no opportunity (priority) to play a spell at that time. I could be wrong tho.
Gideon needs to be on the battlefield already, but not the permanent that is copying him. {clone} copies while entering the battlefield, for an example
Here's another ruling
M6/15/2010 If you activate Gideon Jura's third ability and then a creature enters the battlefield as a copy of him, that copy will be just a planeswalker, not a creature. (The effect of Gideon's third ability isn't copied, just as the effect of a Giant Growth, for example, wouldn't be copied.) Since both permanents will be planeswalkers with the planeswalker type Gideon, each one will be put into his owner's graveyard as a state-based action due to the "planeswalker uniqueness rule."
With the new rules, (if you control both) you can pick one and the other would be out in the graveyard.
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