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Title: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Draxilion on June 03, 2013, 02:00:39 PM
I been toying with the idea of using {worldslayer} and {worldgorger dragon} but with the mana cost being so high how can I use them effectively to board wipe my opponent while removing my board from play then returning them back to play
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Bman0121 on June 03, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
This would be hilarious in edh!!
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 03, 2013, 03:29:54 PM
{minion reflector} would make it crAzy!
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Twiztid_ninja on June 03, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
{Worldgorger Dragon} is banned in EDH
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 03, 2013, 05:43:41 PM
Ahhhhh, it is, indeed.
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MarduArrow on June 03, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
This wouldn't work anyway,  {Worldslayer} would be exiled with all your other permanents when the dragon etb

Edit: unless you can temporarily remove it from the game
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 03, 2013, 05:54:09 PM
Seems like there are a few "exile target permanent; when this permanent LTB - return target permanent to the battle"

So it's not impossible to get a mean combo going
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Jehrad on June 03, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
It would be impossible to get that combo out. If worldslayer were already out, it would leave upon the dragon entering. And you wouldn't be able to cast worldslayer after the dragon because you'd have no mana. Cool idea though.
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 03, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
Well with mana burn not being a factor anymore, one could fill their mana pool up before destroying everything

{Helvault} !
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MarduArrow on June 04, 2013, 01:21:40 AM
Unless I'm mistaken  {Helvault} specifies that it must go to the graveyard in order to return the permanents
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 04, 2013, 06:33:26 AM
Worldslayer destroys all permanents, therefore helvault would be destroyed and land in the graveyard, boom anything you exiled before helvault was destroyed should be back in the field.

I would throw some faiths rewards in a deck with this combo inside also
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MarduArrow on June 04, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 04, 2013, 06:33:26 AM
Worldslayer destroys all permanents, therefore helvault would be destroyed and land in the graveyard, boom anything you exiled before helvault was destroyed should be back in the field.

I would throw some faiths rewards in a deck with this combo inside also

But worldslayer is exiled using helvault when the dragon etb and exiles everything
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 04, 2013, 11:53:13 AM
Quote from: S717 on June 04, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 04, 2013, 06:33:26 AM
Worldslayer destroys all permanents, therefore helvault would be destroyed and land in the graveyard, boom anything you exiled before helvault was destroyed should be back in the field.

I would throw some faiths rewards in a deck with this combo inside also

But worldslayer is exiled using helvault when the dragon etb and exiles everything

Helvault can't target worldslayer so it would have to be the other way around. So creature goes
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Zellius on June 04, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
{oblivion ring} over {helvault} make it work
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 04, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
Quote from: S717 on June 04, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 04, 2013, 06:33:26 AM
Worldslayer destroys all permanents, therefore helvault would be destroyed and land in the graveyard, boom anything you exiled before helvault was destroyed should be back in the field.

I would throw some faiths rewards in a deck with this combo inside also

But worldslayer is exiled using helvault when the dragon etb and exiles everything

We're not using the exiled dragon in this case

It's simply an answer to a board wipe with Worldslayer so that you can at least have the advantage with a powerful creature.

Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: MarduArrow on June 05, 2013, 01:28:21 AM
Ah I see
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Langku on June 05, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
Opponent plays first (if I'm right you'd need a first turn draw.
Turn 1 -mountain {wild cantor}
Turn 2 - land swing then sac cantor  {Jhoira of the Ghitu}
Turn 3 - land swing Jhoira {desperate ritual} suspend {worldslayer} & {Worldgorger Dragon} &{lotus bloom}
Turn 4 - land  {Geosurge}  {Rift Elemental} use his ability to remove 2 from the dragon and 1 from the sword.
Turn 5 - dragon arrives. Land
Turn 6 - land. Lotus bloom arrives. Sac bloom. sword arrives. Equip. Swing.
Turn 7 - you're back at turn 4 (ish) wondering why you did this crazy combo... Maybe suspend whatever you draw. Use elemental's ability to bring it back in and bump his attack to 9. Swing with him and Jhoira.

Terrible win condition? absolutely. Laughably unlikely? Yes. Fun to try? You bet!

Edit: I just realized this wasn't supposed to be in modern format what with the gorger dragon.

That opens this up for some ridiculous legacy!
 
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Arzair on June 06, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: Twiztid_ninja on June 03, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
{Worldgorger Dragon} is banned in EDH

Not true.

http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php


Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Arzair on June 06, 2013, 10:11:27 PM
Click the deck construction link under rules.
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 06, 2013, 10:12:56 PM
Good eye! It is not on the banned list.
Title: Re: Is there a way to make this work
Post by: Arzair on June 06, 2013, 10:23:27 PM
Thanks, I actually have used  {Worldgorger Dragon} with  {Riku of Two Reflections} as my commander... Placed on the stack correctly makes infinite mana/dragons :)