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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Melek the fire on May 31, 2013, 08:39:16 PM

Title: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Melek the fire on May 31, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
So if I have say a {rakdos guildgate} would {dragonskull summit} come into play tapped? Or would the fact the land makes both swamp and mountain make it not?
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 08:45:02 PM
Look at guild gates type (the area to the right of where it says land)  it is  what ever it says it is there so no the summit would come into play tapped.
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 31, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
That's a gate, not a swamp mountain like  {Blood Crypt}. Just because it produces the mana doesn't make it a swamp. On the other hand , blood crypt is an actual swamp.
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Twiztid_ninja on May 31, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
Shock lands count as both the lands they represent.
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Melek the fire on May 31, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
See I was just referring to a land that plays both swamp and mountain. The gate was an example. So if I had {rakdos carnarium} it would come in tapped? I'm getting a lot of different answers
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Keyeto on May 31, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: Melek the fire on May 31, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
See I was just referring to a land that plays both swamp and mountain. The gate was an example. So if I had {rakdos carnarium} it would come in tapped? I'm getting a lot of different answers
Nothing taps for "swamp" or "mountain" or any other thing like that. This is a common wording issue with newer players that can really start to make things confusing. Lands tap for mana. Swamp and Mountain are subtypes for basic lands (shocklands like {Blood Crypt} also have these subtypes).

Just because it taps for {B} doesn't make it a {Swamp}. It has to have the subtype "Swamp" on it. The Carnarium does not count as a Swamp or a Mountain.
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Melek the fire on May 31, 2013, 09:27:03 PM
Oh ok, now it's staring to make sense. Just wanted to make sure I played the right way. Thank you guys
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Twiztid_ninja on May 31, 2013, 10:14:36 PM
Read the end in reference to lands with multiple subtypes...
305.7. If an effect changes a land's subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text and its old land types, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type. Note that this doesn't remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land's subtype doesn't add or remove any card types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic, legendary, and snow) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities.
Title: Re: Dragonskull summit?
Post by: Twiztid_ninja on May 31, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
That's why shock lands are 15 bucks on average and gates are less than abuck.