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Title: Colorless
Post by: Malachiracer on May 31, 2013, 02:56:23 PM

Colorless

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Karn, Silver Golem}
33 {Plains}
1 {Shimmering Grotto}
1 {Transguild Promenade}
1 {Rupture Spire}
1 {City of Brass}
1 {Cathedral of War}
1 {Mystifying Maze}
1 {Lotus Vale}

40 lands


1 {Phyrexian Colossus}
1 {Platinum Angel}
1 {Duplicant}
1 {Darksteel Juggernaut}
1 {Stuffy Doll}
1 {Clockwork Hydra}
1 {Pathrazer of Ulamog}
1 {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth}
1 {Shifting Wall}
1 {Etched Champion}
1 {Clone Shell}
1 {Etched Monstrosity}
1 {Metallic Sliver}
1 {Junk Golem}
1 {Pentavus}
1 {Phyrexian Marauder}
1 {Steel Hellkite}
1 {It That Betrays}
1 {Wurmcoil Engine}
1 {Blightsteel Colossus}
1 {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre}
1 {Darksteel Colossus}
1 {Darksteel Juggernaut}
1 {Brass Herald}
1 {Myr Propagator}
1 {Adaptive Automaton}
1 {Creepy Doll}
1 {Shimmer Myr}
1 {Palladium Myr}
1 {Chronomaton}
1 {Memnite}

31 creatures


1 {Anvil of Bogardan}
1 {Fountain of Youth}
1 {Brittle Effigy}
1 {Chrome Mox}
1 {Darksteel Garrison}
1 {Booby Trap}
1 {Accorder's Shield}
1 {Jandor's Saddlebags}
1 {Jinxed Idol}
1 {Jester's Cap}
1 {Mox Diamond}
1 {Dark Sphere}
1 {Darksteel Relic}
1 {Batterskull}
1 {Helvault}
1 {Chimeric Mass}
1 {Door of Destinies}
1 {Spellbook}
1 {Elbrus, the Binding Blade}
1 {Jar of Eyeballs}
1 {Jeweled Amulet}
1 {Lotus Petal}
1 {Mox Opal}
1 {Zuran Orb}
1 {Witchbane Orb}
1 {Akroma's Memorial}
1 {Argentum Armor}
1 {All Is Dust}

28 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Gorzo on May 31, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
{Elbrus, the Binding Blade} cannot be in a colorless deck, as it's flipped side, {Withengar Unbound} is {B}.

Lands that say "add mana of any color" actually can't produce mana for you. Colorless is not a color, and can't be selected. So {Rupture Spire} and {Lotus Vale} and the like are unable to give you any mana.

Also, those {plains} technically can't be in a colorless deck either. Ask your play group first if it's okay for you to use basic lands and just have have them produce colorless mana instead.

The woes of colorless EDH are many.
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 04:30:12 PM
Don't the lands still give out mana it's just {1} mana?
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 31, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Yes, but technically they violate construction rules. No plains in a non white deck allowed.
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 31, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Yes, but technically they violate construction rules. No plains in a non white deck allowed.
but lands are colorless arnt they?
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 31, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
No plains allowed bro
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Keyeto on May 31, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
Quote from: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 31, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Yes, but technically they violate construction rules. No plains in a non white deck allowed.
but lands are colorless arnt they?
Yes, but EDH cares about color "identity" instead of color. Since Plains actually have "{T}: Add {W} to your mana pool" in their text (it was taken off because it will never change, but older lands do have it), they have white color identity. Anything that produces white mana (or any other color) has white color identity (or the respective color).
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on May 31, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
Quote from: Iandtormentor on May 31, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 31, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Yes, but technically they violate construction rules. No plains in a non white deck allowed.
but lands are colorless arnt they?
Yes, but EDH cares about color "identity" instead of color. Since Plains actually have "{T}: Add {W} to your mana pool" in their text (it was taken off because it will never change, but older lands do have it), they have white color identity. Anything that produces white mana (or any other color) has white color identity (or the respective color).
ok I see...thanks lol I'm glad you posted this before I started cheating by thinking that they had no identity. :)
Title: Re: Colorless
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 01, 2013, 04:36:39 AM
Just go with a 5 color commander