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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Crisys on May 31, 2013, 12:20:40 AM

Title: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Crisys on May 31, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
This may sound dumb but I want to be sure.

Using say a  {Boros Charm} (giving indestructible ) would do nothing to a  {Killing Wave} because sacrifice is different than destroy, correct?
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Firemind on May 31, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
Correct
Destroy=/=sacrifice
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Paraluke on May 31, 2013, 12:52:31 AM
Yea. Different. But both goes to the graveyard.
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Rasser on May 31, 2013, 02:49:34 AM
Wouldn't help with  {Mutilate} either.

Also  {Regeneration} would be as useless.
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Paraluke on May 31, 2013, 02:53:37 AM
Basically indestructible means "cannot be destroyed".

So anything that destroys, or say destroy, does not destroy it.

Rules wise, lethal damage is a form of destroy, if I did not recall wrongly, and hence is protected by indestructible.

Having a toughness lower or equal to zero is a state-base check which puts the creature to the graveyard, therefore not a "destroy".
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 31, 2013, 04:35:31 AM
What happens if someone casts  {Dead Weight} on your  {Lotleth Troll}, but when opponent casts the card you Activate the trolls regeneration ability? Does it regenerate?
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 31, 2013, 04:42:53 AM
Quote from: Agarrita80 on May 31, 2013, 04:35:31 AM
What happens if someone casts  {Dead Weight} on your  {Lotleth Troll}, but when opponent casts the card you Activate the trolls regeneration ability? Does it regenerate?
{Dead Weight} never deals damage to the Troll or attempts to destroy it. It simply reduces the power and toughness. After state base is checked, {Lotleth Troll} has power less than (or equal to, depending on toughness) 0, causing it to die. However you can respond to the weight by ditching a few dudes to the Troll in order to give him a few counters to keep him alive before the weight resolves. The regeneration is useless in this case though. No lethal damage or destroy effects happen.
Title: Re: Killing wave + indestructible
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 31, 2013, 04:56:47 AM
K thanks!