Ok, I'm going to go through and rebuild this list for ease of access. If you have someone to report, either PM me or post here and describe your reasoning for the accusation. While "He jacked my {Black Lotus}" is a viable reason, "I have been waiting 2 weeks" is not really a viable reason. Sometimes mail can be slow, sometimes something happens and they can't send right away, and sometimes, people are just flat-out lazy or forgetful. Anyway, these are the users that have been deemed "Untrustworthy" by the community:
Untrustworthy:
xBeLLaTriX
Kuberr/Eneishi BANNED
Marshin
remasuri ger
Klybern
Terror00456
MetalMadMan/thatoneguyjoey BANNED
Jfrazz
zw913
Killabud12
UNDIYINGBurrit0
Darkarts981
Ericclay94/95
Epicone
Andrew78384
Umbra BANNED
El Bellfry Toro
Therobsta12/Boyesrobert
Nissassagame
All-Mana Mania
Curious. My name here makes your list bogus.
Quote from: Nissassagame on May 30, 2013, 07:55:33 PM
Curious. My name here makes your list bogus.
Nope. I never received my cards from you.
Thanks silent. I'm goin to do a lot of trading in the near future and this list is really helpful.
My TB will be xpanding a lot in the next 2 days. Who's gonna pop my trading cherry? :)
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on May 30, 2013, 11:22:22 PM
Thanks silent. I'm goin to do a lot of trading in the near future and this list is really helpful.
My TB will be xpanding a lot in the next 2 days. Who's gonna pop my trading cherry? :)
I need a {Scalding Tarn}. Are those your only needs?
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:34:42 PM
1x {urabrask the hidden}, 1x {necropolis regent}, 1x {mutilate}, 2x {killing wave}, 2x {thragtusk}, 1x {utvara hellkite}, 1x {gravecrawler}, 1x {blood artist}, 1x {abrupt decay}, and 1x {Rakdos's return} for 2x Rav {watery grave}s, 1x GTC {watery grave}, and 1x RTR {temple garden} is a pretty even trade.
Quote from: Nissassagame on February 15, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
Deal.
Dave Anthony
[address removed]
Stoneco1d & Silent1236 will vouche for me.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
Sweet. I've had multiple trades with Silent and EliteHalo, as well as a successful trade with stoneco1d and many others.
Mike Harris
[address removed]
I can't send until Tuesday since im at work right now and the PO is closed tomorrow and Monday for President's Day.
Quote from: Nissassagame on March 05, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Got the cards. Yours are on the way!
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 31, 2013, 05:23:14 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:34:42 PM
1x {urabrask the hidden}, 1x {necropolis regent}, 1x {mutilate}, 2x {killing wave}, 2x {thragtusk}, 1x {utvara hellkite}, 1x {gravecrawler}, 1x {blood artist}, 1x {abrupt decay}, and 1x {Rakdos's return} for 2x Rav {watery grave}s, 1x GTC {watery grave}, and 1x RTR {temple garden} is a pretty even trade.
Quote from: Nissassagame on February 15, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
Deal.
Dave Anthony
[address removed]
Stoneco1d & Silent1236 will vouche for me.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
Sweet. I've had multiple trades with Silent and EliteHalo, as well as a successful trade with stoneco1d and many others.
Mike Harris
[address removed]
I can't send until Tuesday since im at work right now and the PO is closed tomorrow and Monday for President's Day.
Quote from: Nissassagame on March 05, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Got the cards. Yours are on the way!
Wow. That was a long time ago, too.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 31, 2013, 05:23:14 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:34:42 PM
1x {urabrask the hidden}, 1x {necropolis regent}, 1x {mutilate}, 2x {killing wave}, 2x {thragtusk}, 1x {utvara hellkite}, 1x {gravecrawler}, 1x {blood artist}, 1x {abrupt decay}, and 1x {Rakdos's return} for 2x Rav {watery grave}s, 1x GTC {watery grave}, and 1x RTR {temple garden} is a pretty even trade.
Quote from: Nissassagame on February 15, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
Deal.
Dave Anthony
[address removed]
Stoneco1d & Silent1236 will vouche for me.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 15, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
Sweet. I've had multiple trades with Silent and EliteHalo, as well as a successful trade with stoneco1d and many others.
Mike Harris
[address removed]
I can't send until Tuesday since im at work right now and the PO is closed tomorrow and Monday for President's Day.
Quote from: Nissassagame on March 05, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Got the cards. Yours are on the way!
Wow, sorry Mike that's a big list.
/popcorn
How do you get the boss status under your name?
Quote from: Vindog on June 03, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
How do you get the boss status under your name?
You buy all the extra app add-ons.
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 03, 2013, 11:14:54 PM
Might get me a few downvotes but it needs to be said.
I'm adding All mana mania pending moderator decision of innocence or guilt.
The fact that he absolutely refused to use a middleman and told me that I had to send first no exceptions is why i'm posting this.
Super sketchy, just want a review from the mods before someone has the possibility of being scammed.
If he has been cleared one of you mods shoot me a pm and i'll change this to something about kittens :-P
Frankly, All-mana did nothing untrustworthy. He is on the trusted traders thread various times and is an active member of the community. Besides, given the fact that you aren't exactly trusted and have lied to the community as a whole, his actions are completely validated.
See I'd prefer not to use a middle man...seems like it'd take twice as long to get cards. Plus I'm stickin to trusted traders only. Ill be on the list soon I'm sure and I don't mind sending first to trusted members. I've only been involved in 5 trades and I've sent first in all of them. I look at it this way slender, if the person is an active member in the community and has been involved in numerous trades they won't scam you because doing so will tarnish their name and make trades for them more difficult.
To be fair, I was once scammed by an active member of the community who was on the trusted list... I would advise all traders to proceed with caution in all dealings, and if something rubs you the wrong way, don't trade with that person. It's a very simple concept. No need to put someone (especially a trusted trader) on untrustworthy because they didn't want to use a middleman, that's just silly.
All-Mana Mania is not trustworthy.
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on June 04, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on June 04, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
All-Mana Mania is not trustworthy.
Reason being?
We made a deal about two months ago and I have yet to receive my side of the trade while he has confirmed receiving mine. He has given excuse after excuse and I am now fed up.
I'm adding MissingKirby (cat on toast in space avatar)
Reason
Scheduled trade Apr 25
He has supposedly sent his package twice, returned both times, one for a bad zipcode. I've used the same address many times with other users so I know there are no issues on my end.
He apologized and offered to send again and throw in extras, it's already mid June and I called it a day on my trade with him.
He was trading for my out of print invasion decks. He offered to send first, so I never lost my items, but they've been in escrow for over a month, I've gotten economy shipping faster from China.
Whether it be it really got lost in the mail for a 3rd time or he just didn't want to trade and didn't feel like admitting it, I need to put it up here. It was a waste of my time and I feel others shouldn't have theirs potentially wasted also.
It was a $25+ trade and he opted to not want to use a middle man.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 12, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
I'm adding MissingKirby (cat on toast in space avatar)
Reason
Scheduled trade Apr 25
He has supposedly sent his package twice, returned both times, one for a bad zipcode. I've used the same address many times with other users so I know there are no issues on my end.
He apologized and offered to send again and throw in extras, it's already mid June and I called it a day on my trade with him.
He was trading for my out of print invasion decks. He offered to send first, so I never lost my items, but they've been in escrow for over a month, I've gotten economy shipping faster from China.
Whether it be it really got lost in the mail for a 3rd time or he just didn't want to trade and didn't feel like admitting it, I need to put it up here. It was a waste of my time and I feel others shouldn't have theirs potentially wasted also.
It was a $25+ trade and he opted to not want to use a middle man.
He said no middleman because you should only use them for 30$+ trades.
This post is irrelevant, none of the above information makes him untrustworthy. If it got returned to sender, who cares? You shouldn't have posted this with no factual backing.
I just received my end of a $30+ trade with missing Kirby, and we have traded in the past, I consider him trustworthy and I find nothing in your post about him to prove otherwise.
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 12, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 12, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
He said no middleman because you should only use them for 30$+ trades.
This post is irrelevant, none of the above information makes him untrustworthy. If it got returned to sender, who cares? You shouldn't have posted this with no factual backing.
Middle man trades are $25+
Hes been stating he's sent an item, it keeps getting returned and after the third time he's sent it, it's still not here when sent over a week ago.
I haven't been scammed for items but my time has been wasted. Had it been the random irony of the postal service failing 3 times or him being lazy, it's still irritating to wait for a package for several weeks for it to never show up.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 13, 2013, 02:27:18 AM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 12, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 12, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
He said no middleman because you should only use them for 30$+ trades.
This post is irrelevant, none of the above information makes him untrustworthy. If it got returned to sender, who cares? You shouldn't have posted this with no factual backing.
Middle man trades are $25+
Hes been stating he's sent an item, it keeps getting returned and after the third time he's sent it, it's still not here when sent over a week ago.
I haven't been scammed for items but my time has been wasted. Had it been the random irony of the postal service failing 3 times or him being lazy, it's still irritating to wait for a package for several weeks for it to never show up.
Irritating yes, but there isnt a reason to trash his rep over it if he decided against the trade last second. How bout we just delete these posts and be done with it?
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 13, 2013, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 13, 2013, 02:27:18 AM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 12, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 12, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
He said no middleman because you should only use them for 30$+ trades.
This post is irrelevant, none of the above information makes him untrustworthy. If it got returned to sender, who cares? You shouldn't have posted this with no factual backing.
Middle man trades are $25+
Hes been stating he's sent an item, it keeps getting returned and after the third time he's sent it, it's still not here when sent over a week ago.
I haven't been scammed for items but my time has been wasted. Had it been the random irony of the postal service failing 3 times or him being lazy, it's still irritating to wait for a package for several weeks for it to never show up.
Irritating yes, but there isnt a reason to trash his rep over it if he decided against the trade last second. How bout we just delete these posts and be done with it?
There was a big deal about someone deciding against the trade after the value of their card jumped in price. So be careful about saying canceling the trade at the last second is ok.
Quote from: Rass on June 13, 2013, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 13, 2013, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 13, 2013, 02:27:18 AM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 12, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 12, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
He said no middleman because you should only use them for 30$+ trades.
This post is irrelevant, none of the above information makes him untrustworthy. If it got returned to sender, who cares? You shouldn't have posted this with no factual backing.
Middle man trades are $25+
Hes been stating he's sent an item, it keeps getting returned and after the third time he's sent it, it's still not here when sent over a week ago.
I haven't been scammed for items but my time has been wasted. Had it been the random irony of the postal service failing 3 times or him being lazy, it's still irritating to wait for a package for several weeks for it to never show up.
Irritating yes, but there isnt a reason to trash his rep over it if he decided against the trade last second. How bout we just delete these posts and be done with it?
There was a big deal about someone deciding against the trade after the value of their card jumped in price. So be careful about saying canceling the trade at the last second is ok.
Even so, it is ok to keep what is yours. Just because you agree to trade unless you end up with your end and theirs there shouldnt be a problem.
I disagree there. Once a trade its agreed upon you should stay true to the deal, even if you lost a bit of value. Its just the honest thing to do
That's actually not what happened. He had sent his end, I was waiting on it, and I had yet to send anything. At this point is when I pulled the plug and said I would send his cards back to him once they arrived. Also, I never received any cards, therefore none had to be set back. This has been dealt with.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 14, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
That's actually not what happened. He had sent his end, I was waiting on it, and I had yet to send anything. At this point is when I pulled the plug and said I would send his cards back to him once they arrived. Also, I never received any cards, therefore none had to be set back. This has been dealt with.
None of those were about you, they were about kirby
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 14, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 14, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
That's actually not what happened. He had sent his end, I was waiting on it, and I had yet to send anything. At this point is when I pulled the plug and said I would send his cards back to him once they arrived. Also, I never received any cards, therefore none had to be set back. This has been dealt with.
None of those were about you, they were about kirby
Actually no, those are directly about me. Not here to argue. Carry on.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 14, 2013, 02:31:36 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 14, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 14, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
That's actually not what happened. He had sent his end, I was waiting on it, and I had yet to send anything. At this point is when I pulled the plug and said I would send his cards back to him once they arrived. Also, I never received any cards, therefore none had to be set back. This has been dealt with.
None of those were about you, they were about kirby
Actually no, those are directly about me. Not here to argue. Carry on.
Seriously though none of those posts had anything to do with you.
Can we please focus on new events? ID's was dealt with long ago. Move on. Please and thanks.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 14, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
This has been dealt with.
Exactly. Why was this situation even brought up in the first place? It was months ago, and is completely irrelevant to what's being talked about.
This list of untrustworthy's (although I don't know quite how accurate it is) seems like a great help if it can stay updated and possibly constantly monitored for adding/removing traders from the "untrusted" list. +1 for this :)
Quote from: Bozo_Law on June 04, 2013, 04:06:06 PM
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on June 04, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on June 04, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
All-Mana Mania is not trustworthy.
Reason being?
We made a deal about two months ago and I have yet to receive my side of the trade while he has confirmed receiving mine. He has given excuse after excuse and I am now fed up.
They could be true. Maybe the letter got lost or the card was stolen or something. Overall, I feel he is trustworthy and polite.
Quote from: CbStrad on June 15, 2013, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: Slenderbro on June 15, 2013, 01:50:09 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on June 14, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
This list of untrustworthy's (although I don't know quite how accurate it is) seems like a great help if it can stay updated and possibly constantly monitored for adding/removing traders from the "untrusted" list. +1 for this :)
Not going to +1 you for typing something completely obvious if that is what you were aiming for.
He wasn't asking for a +1, bro. He was showing support
I know but not exactly sure how to thank someone on here for posting the original post so I just said +1
All mana mania is not a trusted trader at all. I highly recommend taking precautions when trading with him, such as always using a middle man. But do not be surprised when he refuses to do so!
Mikefromp, that deal WAS ages ago and ty for reminding me. There's a dozen users who have received $20-$50 worth of cards from me. Just like everyone else, my cards achieved destination. I figure one of two things..... You are buddy-buddy with another user who ripped me off pretty bad and got caught and punished or the mail monster ate it. Either way, not my problem kid. Out of my hands once it hits post. AND I'm still having successful trades up to today. -karma means nothing when people are loyal and know the real story.
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on June 20, 2013, 01:38:02 AM
All mana mania is not a trusted trader at all. I highly recommend taking precautions when trading with him, such as always using a middle man. But do not be surprised when he refuses to do so!
Already been discussed/dealt with.
Quote from: Nissassagame on June 20, 2013, 04:25:15 AM
Mikefromp, that deal WAS ages ago and ty for reminding me. There's a dozen users who have received $20-$50 worth of cards from me. Just like everyone else, my cards achieved destination. I figure one of two things..... You are buddy-buddy with another user who ripped me off pretty bad and got caught and punished or the mail monster ate it. Either way, not my problem kid. Out of my hands once it hits post. AND I'm still having successful trades up to today. -karma means nothing when people are loyal and know the real story.
It doesn't matter that some people have gotten their trades from you (myself included,) he hasn't gotten his cards from you. Even if the "mail monster ate it," he still was ripped off. He lost cards and got nothing in return.
Bump
I want to bring up that I would like Sparkle Ninja moved to the untrusted. I have a trial against her and so does someone else.
I have not received cards and they have since not been on.
http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=29957.0
ITzTowlie needs to be on this list.
Previous list were under another mod, we are currently trying to merge list and get another one permanently stickied