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Title: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Frothandslosh on May 28, 2013, 12:45:55 AM
It looks like the results are back!

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/249b

I'll let you all discuss away. I'm just going to sit back and let the "Of course WotC let a Commander-dedicated player make a card" comments post themselves.

P.S. I voted for land.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on May 28, 2013, 01:56:38 AM
I like the card. I think decks could be made around it rather easily, assuming the CMC isn't ridiculous.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on May 28, 2013, 01:58:59 AM
I'm happy with it, I want to build a killer deck with it when it comes out and will enjoy MBC all the more for it
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 28, 2013, 02:00:54 AM
We all know that this card will have some CMC like 5-7

Unless wizards is nice ( And let's face it they probably won't be ) I expect a high CMC for this card.

Same as consuming contract if that was the pick.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 28, 2013, 02:04:42 AM
There is a green enchantment in M14 that looks a lot like this and costs 6. That sounds about right for this power level. Besides green and black tend to have similar mana costs for various levels of power. Green because you can ramp so much that the high power cards have to be expensive and black because you have to work/ give up a lot to enjoy the true power of black.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 28, 2013, 02:06:32 AM
Kaleo is right, it would balance the card at the higher mana cost, but it wouldn't be hardly as effective.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Wackaman9001 on May 28, 2013, 02:12:17 AM
When will this card be printed? If it is soon we will have crypt ghast to help ramp to it too
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Frothandslosh on May 28, 2013, 03:02:48 AM
I'm not even nervous about the CMC, I just don't want them to drastically change the abilities.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on May 28, 2013, 03:34:33 AM
I would love a 5CmC for this card.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: The1337Magician on May 28, 2013, 07:49:52 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on May 28, 2013, 02:12:17 AM
When will this card be printed? If it is soon we will have crypt ghast to help ramp to it too
I'm pretty sure it's being printed in Theros.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Wally on May 28, 2013, 08:05:47 AM
I'm hoping its at 4cmc probably something like {1}{B}{B}{B} and possibly at a rare slot. Making it hard to spash into other decks keeps with it's theme, not too expensive it can actually synergize and combo well with liliana of the veil, and will possibly see some play time in mono black control.

If its 5 or 6 (or greater) it will most likely be at uncommon (or common) and will rarely ever see constructed play. Limited though it would still be awesome, especially in multiples.

Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 28, 2013, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Wally on May 28, 2013, 08:05:47 AM
I'm hoping its at 4cmc probably something like {1}{B}{B}{B} and possibly at a rare slot. Making it hard to spash into other decks keeps with it's theme, not too expensive it can actually synergize and combo well with liliana of the veil, and will possibly see some play time in mono black control.

If its 5 or 6 (or greater) it will most likely be at uncommon (or common) and will rarely ever see constructed play. Limited though it would still be awesome, especially in multiples.
I'm pretty sure this is a Rare.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Coffee Vampire on May 28, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
I'll never play it if it's above 4CMC. Cool card though.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Gorzo on May 28, 2013, 05:00:45 PM
I'm underwhelmed, honestly. Someday I might get bored and make a casual {Liliana's Caress}/{Megrim} deck with it included, but I'm pretty sure I'll never use this card seriously.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on May 28, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Even at {1}{B}{B}{B}, this card will be a game changer. You can splash red or blue with it and force your opponent to loose card advantage while you gain field advantage. This will definitely be a rare if not mythic, assuming they do or nerf this card. I even think its sweet at
{3}{B}{B}!

Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: MisterJH on May 28, 2013, 08:15:11 PM
I could handle 3{B}{B}, but then again only as a 1 of. Nothing very cool or exciting like {crucible of worlds}

Id think under $5 unless printed 2{B}{B}, possibly even jank.. But who knows, idk shat
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 28, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
First of lets remember that effects like {Reforge the Soul} and {Whispering Madness} have become a little more common place in card design. 4 cmc would break the format if any one of those effects were available. 5 at mythic and 6 at rare seem reasonable. We cant expect another crucible especially when that was the only truly great card from the YMTC series.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on May 29, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 28, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
First of lets remember that effects like {Reforge the Soul} and {Whispering Madness} have become a little more common place in card design. 4 cmc would break the format if any one of those effects were available. 5 at mythic and 6 at rare seem reasonable. We cant expect another crucible especially when that was the only truly great card from the YMTC series.

That is exactly why I think this card could be a house.
Title: Re: We Made the Card(?)
Post by: Wally on May 29, 2013, 04:50:18 AM
Ha! Too true, and here I was thinking all mono colored.
Better get your playsets of those cards now!