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Title: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Crapshooter on May 24, 2013, 02:03:54 AM
I personally love this card, I just wanted other opinions.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
I have been impressed with it as a sideboard bomb as well as a massive beat for a version of wolf run bant.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Crapshooter on May 24, 2013, 02:34:43 AM
I honestly love it against blitz, if you can hold off the pro white life gain is beautiful
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Teysa karlov on May 24, 2013, 05:33:34 AM
It is has protection from most removal is a bitch to kill!  I now have put  {Mizzium Mortars} I'm my side deck cos of it
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Danrulz on May 24, 2013, 06:04:11 AM
I would like the 6 or is it 7 drop for lifelink and protection from white and black without the second skill
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: izik99 on May 24, 2013, 07:21:02 AM
 {Blood Baron of Vizkopa}
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: prayos on May 24, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
I have been impressed with it as a sideboard bomb as well as a massive beat for a version of wolf run bant.

What version of Wolf Run Bant runs the Baron?
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 24, 2013, 09:49:37 AM
I think that guy is amazing. He reminds me of a mini {Divinity of Pride}, slightly toned down, but still.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: prayos on May 24, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
I have been impressed with it as a sideboard bomb as well as a massive beat for a version of wolf run bant.

What version of Wolf Run Bant runs the Baron?
Steven Thieman's top 8 list from Idaho Spring States. It's on TCGplayer. I talked to him about fixing his mana base and replacing {chromatic lanturn} with more relevant cards after the tourney.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: prayos on May 24, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: prayos on May 24, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
I have been impressed with it as a sideboard bomb as well as a massive beat for a version of wolf run bant.

What version of Wolf Run Bant runs the Baron?
Steven Thieman's top 8 list from Idaho Spring States. It's on TCGplayer. I talked to him about fixing his mana base and replacing {chromatic lanturn} with more relevant cards after the tourney.

OMG yeah, his mana base is WAY far off. And yeah, Wolf Run Bant is a better description than 5C Control. I mean, it looks pretty solid, but i would drop the {Steam Vents} and add 1 Fortress or 1 {Isolated Chapel}. And I'd drop the Lantern for either {Loxodon Smiter} or {Thragtusk}. But that's just me, and I honestly am teh suck at deck building. There's a reason he can top 8 states, and I can barely top 8 FNM. :(
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 11:50:35 AM
Well he barely made the cut because his second loss was to me and I was top seed going into the top 8 cut so he got bumped up on tie breaks and I got to play him and beat him 2-0 again.

I told him goddless shrine has little use since he needs white and black for his primary win con not white or black. I also recommended {borderland ranger} and some basics in place of lanturn an some shocks or {snapcaster mage} to reuse {farseek} and other more relevant late game spells.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: MisterJH on May 24, 2013, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 11:50:35 AM
Well he barely made the cut because his second loss was to me and I was top seed going into the top 8 cut so he got bumped up on tie breaks and I got to play him and beat him 2-0 again.

I told him goddless shrine has little use since he needs white and black for his primary win con not white or black. I also recommended {borderland ranger} and some basics in place of lanturn an some shocks or {snapcaster mage} to reuse {farseek} and other more relevant late game spells.
Is it awesome just knowing like everything about magic lol
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 01:50:08 PM
Haha, not quite everything. I know standard very well. My over all understanding comes from a few things:
First off playing with people far better or at least more eperienced than me whenever i can.
Never accepting a rule as is. This means I look into it find out why it is that way. Since I do that i am able to figure out how brand new cards work because they are bound by the same rules and reasonings.
I take the same appraoch as rules when I look at decks. This allows me a greater insight into the hive mind of magic players.
Reading anything posted on daily mtg that catches my eye. I check every day for something good, sometimes I open an article and dont close it till I get around to actually reading it when my schedule is hectic.
I almost never miss an FNM.
Lastly I push myself to be creative and origional. Even when I play a "net deck" archetype like esper control, I dont accept the net list as the best, I look at why that list loses and build to compensate in usually unexpected ways. For example {woodlot crawler} boarded against the fast aggro decks that are very unforgiving to slow playing decks. 
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Raiderrob on May 24, 2013, 03:18:01 PM
So does top 8 in states let you move on to a bigger tournament  or only the winner? A guy from my lgs took 3/4 in Cali. For a small store we have a strong f'n group.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
OB?
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Raiderrob on May 24, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
OB?
Omg just re-read my original post. I'm in a car with my loud kids lol, must have had a huge brain fart when I hit post.
Title: Re: Blood baron of vizkopa overrated or wonder card?
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 24, 2013, 04:30:03 PM
Gotcha. Only 1st got the invite to the 50K. Im hitting an out of state PTQ this weekend.