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Title: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
Master of cruelties + hellrider + (idk the name but all lands generate swamp mana in addition to their other land types)
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Crapshooter on May 16, 2013, 04:47:30 PM
Seems good, but master has to attack alone so takes a 3 turn set up unless you give master haste
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on May 16, 2013, 04:47:30 PM
Seems good, but master has to attack alone so takes a 3 turn set up unless you give master haste
But when you have like say 4 mountains.
Play that swamp. You now have 8 mana. And can do whatever TF you want. ;-;
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 16, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
{rest in peace} + {helm of obedience}
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 16, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
{rest in peace} + {helm of obedience}
That's a nice one too.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Crapshooter on May 16, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
Ok so you have hellrider and master, you attack with master they take 1 immediately, now they can block and only have 1 life lost or they can not block and they still have 1 life, i's a great combo idea and I like it with grixis for  {Artful Dodge}, but it doesn't go off in a single turn
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on May 16, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
Ok so you have hellrider and master, you attack with master they take 1 immediately, now they can block and only have 1 life lost or they can not block and they still have 1 life, i's a great combo idea and I like it with grixis for  {Artful Dodge}, but it doesn't go off in a single turn
Nope but since we were playing a 5 way free for all. He had time to set it up and we didn't even notice. Two players died immediately before we got Master exiled hahaha
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 16, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
This doesnt seem very strong as a combo. If the damage was dealt after the cruelty's trigger then sure that would be great, but alas that is not the case.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 16, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
This doesnt seem very strong as a combo. If the damage was dealt after the cruelty's trigger then sure that would be great, but alas that is not the case.
Wait. Hellrider doesn't get dealt after Cruelties goes off?
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: MisterJH on May 16, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Nope. Hellrider deals damage when attackers are declared(so during the attack phase)

Master of cruelties specifies he must be unblocked for his effect, which will not be determined until after the declare blockers phase.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on May 16, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Nope. Hellrider deals damage when attackers are declared(so during the attack phase)

Master of cruelties specifies he must be unblocked for his effect, which will not be determined until after the declare blockers phase.
Gonna wreck his day tomorrow with this.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: DementionX on May 17, 2013, 01:14:01 AM
{Sanguine Bond} + {Exquisite Blood} loop of shenanigans. I played a person that had the deck as well as me. We both got the combo. Pretty funny neutralizing each other.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Quackmaster5 on May 17, 2013, 08:00:13 AM
 {Heartless Summoning} +  {Havengul Lich} +  {Priest of Urabrask}

Throw down any  {Fireball} type effect card.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Raven316 on May 17, 2013, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 16, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
{rest in peace} + {helm of obedience}

I play with this combo and its great but is there a way to make this work in multiplayer aka kill more than one person a turn?
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 09:39:26 AM
{voltaic key}
{rings of brighthearth}

Mill all your opponents to death!!!
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Raven316 on May 17, 2013, 09:41:54 AM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 09:39:26 AM
{voltaic key}
{rings of brighthearth}

Mill all your opponents to death!!!

Yes good call ... Is {voltaic key} restricted?
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 17, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on May 17, 2013, 08:00:13 AM
{Heartless Summoning} +  {Havengul Lich} +  {Priest of Urabrask}

Throw down any  {Fireball} type effect card.
My best days in standard were because of this.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Birdbrain on May 17, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
I thought the most annoying insta win was flash hulk. You can win on the upkeep of the first turn I belive
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 17, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
How about  {Isochron Scepter} and  {Silence}?
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
I used to think that combo was unstoppable til my girlfriend used {torch fiend}.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Birdbrain on May 17, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
I used to think that combo was unstoppable til my girlfriend used {torch fiend}.
girlfriend? Didnt you say you had a wife?
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
We're common law. She's still my girlfriend. On a good day I call her wife lol
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Monrodesign on May 17, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
We're common law. She's still my girlfriend. On a good day I call her wife lol

This made me laugh.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 17, 2013, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: Agarrita80 on May 17, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
How about  {Isochron Scepter} and  {Silence}?
That's pretty epic.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 17, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
This thread got me thinking...all of my favorite combo wins have been in standard. I think this is mostly because in standard people dont expect to get comboed out instantly.

Turn 3: {heartless summoning}, {priest of urabrask}, {havengul lich}, {bonfire of the damned}

Turn 3: {goblin electromancer}, {battle hymn}, {krenko's command}, {infernal plunge}, {thatcher's revolt}, {faithless looting}, {past in flames}, {reforge the soul}, {massive raid}/{burn at the stake}/{rally the peasants}

Turn 4: {gilded lotus}, {deadeye navigator}, {zealous conscripts} (some lucky ramp here, the deck was designed to control until around turn 7 or 8 before combo)

Turn 5 with only {heartless summoning} on board at a PTQ: {priest of urabrask}, {rune-scarred demon}, search {phyrexian metamorph} x2 both copy the demon, search an play {urabrask the hidden} and swing game.

Hard to beat turn 3 and turn 4 plays with that same heartless deck included cloned {thundermaw hellkite}, {inferno titan}, and {frost titan}

Now it's time to make some new ones!
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Quackmaster5 on May 17, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 17, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
This thread got me thinking...all of my favorite combo wins have been in standard. I think this is mostly because in standard people dont expect to get comboed out instantly.

Turn 3: {heartless summoning}, {priest of urabrask}, {havengul lich}, {bonfire of the damned}

Turn 3: {goblin electromancer}, {battle hymn}, {krenko's command}, {infernal plunge}, {thatcher's revolt}, {faithless looting}, {past in flames}, {reforge the soul}, {massive raid}/{burn at the stake}/{rally the peasants}

Turn 4: {gilded lotus}, {deadeye navigator}, {zealous conscripts} (some lucky ramp here, the deck was designed to control until around turn 7 or 8 before combo)

Turn 5 with only {heartless summoning} on board at a PTQ: {priest of urabrask}, {rune-scarred demon}, search {phyrexian metamorph} x2 both copy the demon, search an play {urabrask the hidden} and swing game.

Hard to beat turn 3 and turn 4 plays with that same heartless deck included cloned {thundermaw hellkite}, {inferno titan}, and {frost titan}

Now it's time to make some new ones!

My new favorite friend in heartless is  {Desecration Demon}. What's better than a 6/6 flying demon for 2 B
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
5/5 flyer with heartless btw
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Monrodesign on May 17, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on May 17, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
This thread got me thinking...all of my favorite combo wins have been in standard. I think this is mostly because in standard people dont expect to get comboed out instantly.

Turn 3: {heartless summoning}, {priest of urabrask}, {havengul lich}, {bonfire of the damned}

Turn 3: {goblin electromancer}, {battle hymn}, {krenko's command}, {infernal plunge}, {thatcher's revolt}, {faithless looting}, {past in flames}, {reforge the soul}, {massive raid}/{burn at the stake}/{rally the peasants}

Turn 4: {gilded lotus}, {deadeye navigator}, {zealous conscripts} (some lucky ramp here, the deck was designed to control until around turn 7 or 8 before combo)

Turn 5 with only {heartless summoning} on board at a PTQ: {priest of urabrask}, {rune-scarred demon}, search {phyrexian metamorph} x2 both copy the demon, search an play {urabrask the hidden} and swing game.

Hard to beat turn 3 and turn 4 plays with that same heartless deck included cloned {thundermaw hellkite}, {inferno titan}, and {frost titan}

Now it's time to make some new ones!


Turn 5:  {Obzedat's Aid},  {Omniscience}, {Enter the Infinite}, {Laboratory Maniac}, {Think Twice}/{Azorius Charm}, {Temporal Mastery}
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Quackmaster5 on May 17, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
5/5 flyer with heartless btw

Good call but still. That's godly
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on May 17, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
 {Blast of Genius} +  {Thunderous Wrath}
Coupled with two 1/5s who when you play an instant (blast) they become 5/1s instant 19 damage if they can't block.
This is why I have respect for Izzet.
And  {Goblin Electromancer} never hurts
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: MageBones on May 17, 2013, 11:16:12 PM
 {Curse of Exhaustion} +  {Possibility Storm} or  {Knowledge Pool}. Not quite instant, but it puts players in lockdown.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: AeturnitasMalus on June 01, 2013, 02:28:37 PM
1st turn, opponent plays first. He plays a mountain,  {Lotus Petal},  {Dark Ritual}x2,  {Raging Goblin},  {Hatred}, pays 19 life on hatred.  There were no words.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Vampyvyrus on June 01, 2013, 03:51:51 PM
I like using  {Leyline of the Void}+ {Helm of Obedience} because of the chance to have leyline out for free at the beginning of the game and it works in mono black. Though without that effect  {Rest in Peace} is far better especially if you not running mono black.

My deck I'm putting together (in casual forum under "game ender") runs sanguine bond+exquisite blood, helm of obedience+leyline of the void, dark depths+vampire hexmage.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Redrighthand on June 02, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on May 17, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
{Blast of Genius} +  {Thunderous Wrath}
Coupled with two 1/5s who when you play an instant (blast) they become 5/1s instant 19 damage if they can't block.
This is why I have respect for Izzet.
And  {Goblin Electromancer} never hurts

{Guttersnipe} helps make this nasty too. Also works well with  {Gelectrode}
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Gorzo on June 02, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
This makes me want to {Blast of Genius} an {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on June 02, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on June 02, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
This makes me want to {Blast of Genius} an {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}.
I have a question.  If you play  {Goblin Electromancer} and then any card. For instance  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}
Wouldn't it do less damage as the electromancer reduces its mana cost for you? {Blast of Genius} doing the converted mana cost? I'm not completely sure how cmc works.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Destore117 on June 02, 2013, 05:11:22 PM
Oh ok. I thought if like you had stuff that reduced mana cost the damage would be reduced as its mana cost went down for you.
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Mlerner12 on June 07, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 16, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
{rest in peace} + {helm of obedience}
That's a nice one too.

MILL
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Mlerner12 on June 07, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on June 02, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
This makes me want to {Blast of Genius} an {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}.

THEY WILL BURN
MUAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Most annoying instant win
Post by: Mlerner12 on June 07, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
Quote from: AeturnitasMalus on June 01, 2013, 02:28:37 PM
1st turn, opponent plays first. He plays a mountain,  {Lotus Petal},  {Dark Ritual}x2,  {Raging Goblin},  {Hatred}, pays 19 life on hatred.  There were no words.
That is greatr.