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Title: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Wally on February 27, 2012, 05:32:28 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?

{cancel}? Lol
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
T2, white or green...
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: cltrn81 on February 27, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?

Not unless those enchantments had flash.  Was Elesh hits the board anything 2/2 or less dies on your side.
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Spikepit on February 27, 2012, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
T2, white or green...
😳 Wow, cool! How was Elesh out in turn 2?Or did I miss read something?

You could drop a {Spirit Mantle} on one of your tokens?

Edit: oh wait, Elesh's -2/-2 isnt an ability, it's 'something that is true' about creatures, so the Mantle is useless. Sorry Bernardcs! 😔
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
T2 = standard, not 2nd turn...
So, speed is the key in this case...
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Spikepit on February 27, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
T2 = standard, not 2nd turn...
So, speed is the key in this case...
Ah, gotcha!
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
What about {Spellskite}?
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: cltrn81 on February 27, 2012, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
What about {Spellskite}?

He lives since he has 4 toughness, but is not going to help save your tokens from Elesh....the only way is to counter Elesh or have your tokens toughness above 2 🔨
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Prophylaxis on February 27, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?
Honestly, Elesh Norn comes out on turn 7. If you haven't killed your opponent by then then you're probably losing.
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: MaDeM MaD on February 27, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
What if you made a {heartless summoning} deck w elesh??? sounds fun
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: cltrn81 on February 27, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on February 27, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?
Honestly, Elesh Norn comes out on turn 7. If you haven't killed your opponent by then then you're probably losing.

Come on Proph you can cheat Elesh out b4 that.  Maybe not standard but:
T1 {dark ritual}, {entomb}, {animate dead}
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Validan on February 27, 2012, 11:19:46 AM
{Thraben doomsayer} and lower your life total to proc his ability to negate elesh norn's ability there's also another creature. Also there's {village ironwright} who would buff your guys high enough, to get your life total that low you can use {hex parasite} or something but oblivion ring that elesh norn the second you can
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: cltrn81 on February 27, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on February 27, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
What if you made a {heartless summoning} deck w elesh??? sounds fun

I have one in the works....still {brainstorm}ing though.
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: BlackJester on February 27, 2012, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 27, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on February 27, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on February 27, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Is there anyway to my tiny tokens don't get killed by {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}, while i couldn't cas any {Intangible Virtue} or {Honor of the Pure}?
Honestly, Elesh Norn comes out on turn 7. If you haven't killed your opponent by then then you're probably losing.

Come on Proph you can cheat Elesh out b4 that.  Maybe not standard but:
T1 {dark ritual}, {entomb}, {animate dead}
{Quicksilver Amulet} Standard and fast with {Grand Architect}.
Title: Re: 1/1 tokens vs elesh norn
Post by: Theroguard on February 27, 2012, 01:05:27 PM
I just you'd beast master accensin and attack with 7token