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Title: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 02:41:08 PM
I need a really interesting/not very well known for an upcoming math project. Ideas?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: #noided on May 14, 2013, 03:10:36 PM
What math class?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Juggernaut9060 on May 14, 2013, 03:14:35 PM
How high a level of math are we talking about?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 03:17:10 PM
Phi is really neat how it ties in to absolutely everything alive. They didn't teach it to me in school. After I learned about it in my own I co stanly wondered why they never taught it in school.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 03:56:44 PM
I would do chais theory, it's easy, and you really only have to explain the sets to make it work. (Cantor, mandelbrot, and julia)

It explains fractals as an illusion of chaos in ordered sets.

Hope this helped, i'm always here if you need math/physics help or ideas. Love the subject area.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
8th grade if you're wondering
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
8th grade if you're wondering
That's fine, so what class is it? (It's always variable now, i had geometry in 8th)
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Rass on May 14, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Square root of negative one

Fun concept
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
8th grade if you're wondering
That's fine, so what class is it? (It's always variable now, i had geometry in 8th)

It doesn't have to be a specific topic. It is any concept out there.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:25:21 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
8th grade if you're wondering
That's fine, so what class is it? (It's always variable now, i had geometry in 8th)

It doesn't have to be a specific topic. It is any concept out there.
Just explain what an iteration is, it includes like half of all mathematics.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: Rass on May 14, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Square root of negative one

Fun concept
Yes, describe the imaginary constant i. Easy to understand, easy to write about. Do this one.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Fibonacci Squence and its relationship to animals & the universe. But I'm a scientist so stuff like this just makes me smile.

Also I love the suggestion of Pi and how it is basically everything.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Fibonacci Squence and its relationship to animals & the universe. But I'm a scientist so stuff like this just makes me smile.

Also I love the suggestion of Pi and how it is basically everything.
How does 123581321345589...and so on relate to the animals?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:40:01 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Fibonacci Squence and its relationship to animals & the universe. But I'm a scientist so stuff like this just makes me smile.

Also I love the suggestion of Pi and how it is basically everything.
How does 123581321345589...and so on relate to the animals?
Just curious
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
I think he meant PHI, not PI.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
The golden ratio. 1.618 : 1
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 14, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
Fibonacci's sequence ratio between the N term and N-1 term, when close to infinite, is phi :)

The bunnies reproduction is explained through Fibonacci, as are tree branches growth, leaves falling through air, most spirals in nature, fur patterns, all follow Fibonacci. Phi is close together with Fibonacci, as explained above, and it is seen on most proportions out there. It is really fun to make a project on those two
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
I think he meant PHI, not PI.
No he really meant pi, phi is different. Pi is 3.14159265 and so on in decimals. 2 different topics.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Apathy Reactor on May 14, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
you could do some trigonometry, and just show how you can use Sine, Cosine, and Tangent to find the surface area, volume, and angle measurements of pretty much everything
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
I think he meant PHI, not PI.
No he really meant pi, phi is different. Pi is 3.14159265 and so on in decimals. 2 different topics.
I know what pi is and it has nothing to do with animals lol
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: #noided on May 14, 2013, 06:49:43 PM
Do a presentation on Tau. Or maybe not. It's pretty worthless anyway.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 14, 2013, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
I think he meant PHI, not PI.
No he really meant pi, phi is different. Pi is 3.14159265 and so on in decimals. 2 different topics.
I know what pi is and it has nothing to do with animals lol
nor anything unrelated to circles, pretty much
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Xaol on May 14, 2013, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.
Wow. This is actually the most interested thing I've read in a while. Thanks man!
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Xaol on May 14, 2013, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.
Wow. This is actually the most interested thing I've read in a while. Thanks man!

I am a philosopher. I created this theory by utilizing the three different concepts I explained in that post. It was just a thought I had one day, but it yielded interesting ideas and stemmed many new concepts that I think a lot of people overlook.

EDIT: Also, no problem.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Juggernaut9060 on May 14, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
It is possible to model a car's suspension using differential equations. A system of two differential equations would model a quarter car. You would need four systems to model the whole car. Also, one could produce the same model using circuits. Certain circuits act like a second order differential equation system, which is the same type of system as the car.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.

Mind if I use this for my report?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
Just explain differential calculus and be done with it lol. I'd actually help you with that if interested.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: #noided on May 14, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
Just explain differential calculus and be done with it lol. I'd actually help you with that if interested.

Differential calculus is indeed useful.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: #noided on May 14, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
Just explain differential calculus and be done with it lol. I'd actually help you with that if interested.

Differential calculus is indeed useful.
It can explain virtually everything about the world around you, i find it quite interesting.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: MisterJH on May 14, 2013, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.

Although not so elequant, and not because of any theories, a friend of mine once had a similar though when he was slightly less than sober. It went something like 'dude.. What if were all brains and we talk to other brains and create like earth and stuff.' Your theory reminded me beautifully of that, just much more logical and much deeper. But all the same, thank you for the post haha.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on May 14, 2013, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
You want an interesting math concept? How about this theory?

Many current scientists in the field of physics are noticing a unique trend in mathematics. While for a long time it was thought that we created math, new studies are leaning towards the possibility of math making up the universe. This would explain why we can explain gravity and motion with math. Scientists are beginning to think that math is just like an ancient language that we are uncovering more and more each day. Depending how far you want to go on this theory, you could also use it to explain the relevance of the two base ideas known as existence and consciousness. Utilizing these two theories together begins to shape an idea of how the universe actually exists in a given space and how math is connected with our make up. I personally like to take that idea and combine it with the theory of epistemological solipsism to create a unique take on how to perceive the universe and its makeup. Using the foundation of epistemological solipsism in relation to existence and consciousness, you get an overall theory that is made up of mathematical components. While just a theory, it states that the mind is all there is and everything else is created by that single object. It does this by using consciousness to bend existence into the desired form. Because we stated earlier that our universe is made up of mathematics, this would include both consciousness and existence. What we can derive from this is that our minds use mathematics to create everything around including the people we know and the things we see. By utilizing all three theories in one thesis, we can argue that every single thing, idea, and person is made up of a mathematical structure (I am not just talking proportions). What this means is because it falls within the realms of mathematics, the human mind can one day understand and have a greater knowledge of the universe and its relation to everything in it. By stating that it is made up of mathematics, we are indirectly stating that it is also possible for humans to one day understand how this is all connected to other possible universes and ideas. If we just say that it was a force or evolutionary pattern that created these ideas, we are also saying that there will be a limit to what we can ever know about the universe. Again, if we use a mathematical approach, we say that through our understanding of mathematics we can understand the universe one day.

Mind if I use this for my report?

That is fine with me. I am glad I was able to help. Just remember that epistemological solipsism is theorizing that the universe is independent of the individual's mind. The theory that the universe is mathematics is stating that the universe is an understandable concept through the application of mathematics. And finally, the essence of existence and consciousness while directly contrasting epistemiological solipsism, also agree with it when linking the two theories with the third. This works because the theory that mathematics makes up the universe means that each individual ideas stems from the same roots and shares similarities. In short, the idea from epistemological solipsism is an idea that came from the consciousness of an idea that was brought about by an existence (not in the form of life but in the form of spatial and universal relations). These ideas link because they both should have mathematical base properties in theory. In principle applications, it states that the mind is all there is;and this is because of its relation to consciousness and existence, that theories exist at all. With consciousness and existence being a product of mathematics due to the first theory, it is then reasonable to assume that through the applications of mathematics; anything could be defined and described on a level that mind can grasp since the mind itself is built upon a mathematical structure.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
I know just about every fractal there is, my favorite being the fern; thanks for the suggestion though. Quantum physics is a really fun class if you ever contemplate taking the class.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 14, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
Have you seen the movie Pi?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: Slenderbro on May 14, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
I know just about every fractal there is, my favorite being the fern; thanks for the suggestion though. Quantum physics is a really fun class if you ever contemplate taking the class.

If I got back for another degree I might. Right now I will stick my Microbiology. :)
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 14, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
Have you seen the movie Pi?

Not yet regrettably. It looks great. Hope to see it at some point. Assuming you are talking about "Life of Pi".
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: AwaySinceMirage on May 20, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
DG, I think my theory resonates with yours.
Our individuality is an illusion created voluntarily just to experience the illusion.
The isolation of our consciousness from other consciousness (from other individuals) is also a chosen experience.
Our default state is to be one with the universe and to understand everything, all the mathematics.
For example, lets say there are only 100 different things to understand anout the universe. Each represented by yes or no, 0 or 1. There would be 2 to the 100 power combinations of things understood and not understood. Each combination is easily represented mathematically.
And each combination defines a consciousness that perceives itself as an individual.
We are the ones of what we understand and the zeroes of what we don't.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Bookmeister on May 21, 2013, 06:46:28 AM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 14, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
Have you seen the movie Pi?

Not yet regrettably. It looks great. Hope to see it at some point. Assuming you are talking about "Life of Pi".

I believe he is talking about the movie "Pi."  I don't think "Life of Pi" has anything to do with math.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 02:49:16 PM
@DeathGaara sounds much like the much sought "the One equation", or "Nature equation", sometimes also referred to as "Equation of Life", and I bet it has some other names. Any connection, or you just came to the same theory as many mathematicians using philosophical thought?
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Apathy Reactor on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Aladormax on May 21, 2013, 03:21:42 PM
Actually it's 42.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Kareason on May 21, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Bookmeister on May 21, 2013, 06:46:28 AM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 14, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Kareason on May 14, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
@Slenderbro

Looks like everyone else answered for me while I was away at dinner. :)

Check out a Nautilus Shell. The spiral formation is a perfect spiral that fits the sequence. Others have mentioned good examples as well. Also like I mentioned, Spiral Galaxies fit the form too.

@Double-O

Yeah, I may have worded it funny but I meant Pi (3.14). Wasn't saying it has anything to do with animals exactly but as the longest non-repeating, non-sequential number there have been people who think it might contain everything in the world if it was ran through the right filter. I don't know if that fact is true but it makes me smile none the less.
Have you seen the movie Pi?

Not yet regrettably. It looks great. Hope to see it at some point. Assuming you are talking about "Life of Pi".

I believe he is talking about the movie "Pi."  I don't think "Life of Pi" has anything to do with math.

Then I guess the answer is No. :). Didn't even know "Pi" was a movie. Was only aware of "Life of Pi".
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on May 21, 2013, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 03:17:10 PM
Phi is really neat how it ties in to absolutely everything alive. They didn't teach it to me in school. After I learned about it in my own I co stanly wondered why they never taught it in school.
Realy? I'm in 6th and we learned Ph
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 21, 2013, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 03:17:10 PM
Phi is really neat how it ties in to absolutely everything alive. They didn't teach it to me in school. After I learned about it in my own I co stanly wondered why they never taught it in school.
Realy? I'm in 6th and we learned Ph
Your teacher is probably awesome :P that is, if you indeed mean Phi, not Pi. Phi is mostly a mathematical curiosity, usually only taught in special projects or university. Or, in case your teacher is really good and goes extra, not just the basic curriculum
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Apathy Reactor on May 21, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
come on guys, a dislike? it's a Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy joke, ya had to be there •3•
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Death Gaara on May 21, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 02:49:16 PM
@DeathGaara sounds much like the much sought "the One equation", or "Nature equation", sometimes also referred to as "Equation of Life", and I bet it has some other names. Any connection, or you just came to the same theory as many mathematicians using philosophical thought?

I have not heard of any of those. I arrived at this theory by using philosophical thought. I did not have any prior knowledge to similar theories as I believe that philosophy is something that is both self taught and self made. There is no right or wrong theory, just your idea of what your philosophy means to you. So this idea was not something I looked up or copied. Rather, I just used philosophical logic and connected basic philosophical ideas and current studies in the fields of math and physics. If somebody else has arrived to the same conclusion, then that makes its plausible truth even more interesting. This leads back to the study that states math makes up everything around us. Since math is a theorized makeup of every component of the idea, then somebody else who sees that way or believes the theory would inevitably come to the same conclusion. Although humans have only scratched the surface, these kinds of revolutionary ideas are what help us progress. We are living in revolutionary times that are larger than any other development previously executed in our history. I feel the next 200 years will be a historical landmark for the generations after that. How I wish I could live long enough to see the breakthrough ideas that are to come. But for some reason it was decided that I must live now. Since this is an inevitable truth that I must accept, I still like to imagine that possibilities that could come from another 100 years of philosophical, scientific, and technological developments. I feel we are starting to uncover something much larger that surpasses even the technologies and capabilities we have at this moment.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
The One Equation is the idea of one mathematical equation defining everything in the universe. As much as we can describe many physics interactions through equations which can, in most cases, be knitted together to create an equation describing everything, but even more complex, because it would not just be knitting forces together. It could knit Macro to Micro, the brain synapses to the force of gravity, the nautilus shell to the smell of freckles. It would be one equation for everything, meaning each and everything we know or not, would be the same thing, the same mathematical theorem. Many scientists nowadays try to get away from specializing in a single area in hopes of getting closer to that equation. This equation would mean everything, and we could get anything from it. From what is the cure of cancer, to the tought process used to discover it. From the size of someone's head to the next numbers on a random number generator. It would literally be a single law by which everything would exist
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Death Gaara on May 21, 2013, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
The One Equation is the idea of one mathematical equation defining everything in the universe. As much as we can describe many physics interactions through equations which can, in most cases, be knitted together to create an equation describing everything, but even more complex, because it would not just be knitting forces together. It could knit Macro to Micro, the brain synapses to the force of gravity, the nautilus shell to the smell of freckles. It would be one equation for everything, meaning each and everything we know or not, would be the same thing, the same mathematical theorem. Many scientists nowadays try to get away from specializing in a single area in hopes of getting closer to that equation. This equation would mean everything, and we could get anything from it. From what is the cure of cancer, to the tought process used to discover it. From the size of someone's head to the next numbers on a random number generator. It would literally be a single law by which everything would exist

That is really interesting. A lot of what I said does seem rather similar to this idea. All the more reason to consider new ideas and not shove them off. I will research this more in my spare time if I can. I would certainly like to reader further in depth. Perhaps I could learn something even more interesting then what I have already discovered and theorized. I love to build on theories. This is why universal ideas merit the most attention in my opinion. They may be the most controversial, but on that same token they are also the most adaptable.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: MisterJH on May 21, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
come on guys, a dislike? it's a Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy joke, ya had to be there •3•
Maybe you got -1 cuz the correct meanig is 42, not 47. Just an idea
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Apathy Reactor on May 22, 2013, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on May 21, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
come on guys, a dislike? it's a Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy joke, ya had to be there •3•
Maybe you got -1 cuz the correct meanig is 42, not 47. Just an idea
well it's been years since I've last seen it, the writing etched in my brain is starting to fade, maybe I should refresh it
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Mentonin on May 22, 2013, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 21, 2013, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
The One Equation is the idea of one mathematical equation defining everything in the universe. As much as we can describe many physics interactions through equations which can, in most cases, be knitted together to create an equation describing everything, but even more complex, because it would not just be knitting forces together. It could knit Macro to Micro, the brain synapses to the force of gravity, the nautilus shell to the smell of freckles. It would be one equation for everything, meaning each and everything we know or not, would be the same thing, the same mathematical theorem. Many scientists nowadays try to get away from specializing in a single area in hopes of getting closer to that equation. This equation would mean everything, and we could get anything from it. From what is the cure of cancer, to the tought process used to discover it. From the size of someone's head to the next numbers on a random number generator. It would literally be a single law by which everything would exist

That is really interesting. A lot of what I said does seem rather similar to this idea. All the more reason to consider new ideas and not shove them off. I will research this more in my spare time if I can. I would certainly like to reader further in depth. Perhaps I could learn something even more interesting then what I have already discovered and theorized. I love to build on theories. This is why universal ideas merit the most attention in my opinion. They may be the most controversial, but on that same token they are also the most adaptable.
I will get back to you with more info on the actual name of the equation. The ones I posted were a free translation from the names in Portuguese, which are probably a translation as well, so... I will let you know if I find the real English name is too different
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on May 22, 2013, 07:10:25 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on May 21, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 21, 2013, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 14, 2013, 03:17:10 PM
Phi is really neat how it ties in to absolutely everything alive. They didn't teach it to me in school. After I learned about it in my own I co stanly wondered why they never taught it in school.
Realy? I'm in 6th and we learned Ph
Your teacher is probably awesome :P that is, if you indeed mean Phi, not Pi. Phi is mostly a mathematical curiosity, usually only taught in special projects or university. Or, in case your teacher is really good and goes extra, not just the basic curriculum
I go to a private school maybe that's why
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Gorzo on May 23, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 22, 2013, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on May 21, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
come on guys, a dislike? it's a Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy joke, ya had to be there •3•
Maybe you got -1 cuz the correct meanig is 42, not 47. Just an idea
well it's been years since I've last seen it, the writing etched in my brain is starting to fade, maybe I should refresh it

It's always a good idea to re-read Douglas Adams.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Aladormax on May 23, 2013, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on May 23, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 22, 2013, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on May 21, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on May 21, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything= 47
come on guys, a dislike? it's a Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy joke, ya had to be there •3•
Maybe you got -1 cuz the correct meanig is 42, not 47. Just an idea
well it's been years since I've last seen it, the writing etched in my brain is starting to fade, maybe I should refresh it

It's always a good idea to re-read Douglas Adams.
I can never argue with this logic.
Title: Re: Most interesting math concept
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 25, 2013, 11:34:17 PM
Pythagoreans theory