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Title: Whatever is whatever
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on May 13, 2013, 06:19:27 PM
Why does on  {Invisible Stalker} and  {Tajic, Blade of the Legion} it say that it is unblock able, and indestructible, respectively.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Dudecore on May 13, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on May 13, 2013, 06:19:27 PM
Why does on  {Invisible Stalker} and  {Tajic, Blade of the Legion} it say that it is unblock able, and indestructible, respectively.

Question does not compute.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on May 13, 2013, 06:25:48 PM
Why doesn't it just say indestructible or unblock able, that my question, sorry about the confusion, I'm doing multiple things at once
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Keyeto on May 13, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on May 13, 2013, 06:25:48 PM
Why doesn't it just say indestructible or unblock able, that my question, sorry about the confusion, I'm doing multiple things at once
Because unblockable and indestructible aren't actually abilities. They're just something that's true about a permanent.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 13, 2013, 06:28:07 PM
 {Invisible Stalker} cannot be blocked by any creature when attacking. He also can't be targeted by opponent which makes him very hard to get rid of.  {Tajic, Blade of the Legion} is indestructible meaning no creature can deal lethal damage to him. Also damage by spells that would target tajic singly cannot kill him either. So only way to kill stalker is a global effect spell, or having opponent sacrifice him somehow, or force him to block one of your creatures that would deal lethal damage. Tajic can die with -1/-1 counters or having opponent sacrifice him, or you can exile him.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on May 13, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Firemind on May 14, 2013, 03:12:53 AM
So does that mean {snakeform} cannot remove indestructible or unblockable?
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 14, 2013, 03:34:46 AM
Quote from: Firemind on May 14, 2013, 03:12:53 AM
So does that mean {snakeform} cannot remove indestructible or unblockable?

For tajic this would def work. For invisible stalker it would not cuz he has hexproof. He cannot be targeted.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Paraluke on May 14, 2013, 03:35:09 AM
It does, it removes whatever it says on the card. Of course, you must be able to target it first I.e. you cannot target an opponent's hexproof creature, so this will not work on it.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 14, 2013, 04:47:08 AM
Neither of those abilities are actualy keywords. Some designers fight for them to become keywords quite aggressively but the problem remains that the syntax of them in use within the oracle text of older cards becomes quite confusing if they are to be standardized as keywords. Sure those who play the game will understand the purpose, but actual wording is very important to the rules.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: NuclearChicken on May 15, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
Glaring spotlight allows you to target with snakeform.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 15, 2013, 05:31:22 PM
Only to bypass hexproof. Creatures with shroud still can't be targeted.
Title: Re: Whatever is whatever
Post by: NuclearChicken on May 16, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
That is true :) I wa just trying to help with cards that I know lol