If someone attacks me with a 5/5 double strike and I defend with a 5/4 a 2/3 and a 4/4 does the attacking creatures deal 5 +5 damage to each defending creature or is the damage dealt to the defending creatures divided up?
Quote from: rnf73trumpet on May 09, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
If someone attacks me with a 5/5 double strike and I defend with a 5/4 a 2/3 and a 4/4 does the attacking creatures deal 5 +5 damage to each defending creature or is the damage dealt to the defending creatures divided up?
Attacker choses how damage is divided among creatures. Example A 4/4 Creature attacks and I block with a 3/3, two 2/2's, and two 1/1's my opponent can choose how 4 damage is dealt and to what creatures. He may deal 3 to the 3/3 and 1 to the 1/1 to make four. Or he can deal 2 to one 2/2 and 2 to another 2/2. He could also choose to deal 2 damage to a 2/2, 1 damage to a 1/1, and 1 damage to another 1/1. Basically, the attacker chooses how the damage is dealt, but cannot exceed the amount of damage their creature can deal.
In your case, the opponent could choose to divide 5 damage among blockers since double strike acts as first strike, then additionally 5 more damage among remaining blockers if any exist (if you have any creatures with power totaling to 5 or greater blocking at this stage he would also lose his creature).
Didn't know you could divide your damage up like that...I feel like the whole game just got changed...
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Didn't know you could divide your damage up like that...I feel like the whole game just got changed...
Note that only the attacker can assign how damage is dealt to blockers. It is sad more people don't know this. How are they teaching people to play these days? Doesn't Duels of the Planeswalkers or those dumb little paper foldouts I throw away all the time found in Magic products explain how to play the game in depth? I would not be surprised if it was just a brief overview.
To be completely honest.
I have only listened to other magic players explain the basics and complicated matters as they arise.
Never read the official "rules" page that comes with decks.
And I don't think they have either.
This brings me to a new question.
If you need multiple defenders to block all this damage. If they don't. Does the excess damage get dealt to the player?
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
To be completely honest.
I have only listened to other magic players explain the basics and complicated matters as they arise.
Never read the official "rules" page that comes with decks.
And I don't think they have either.
This brings me to a new question.
If you need multiple defenders to block all this damage. If they don't. Does the excess damage get dealt to the player?
Excess damage is dealt to the player when the attacking creatures have Trample. Check out the stickied post here in Rules, titled "Rules Q&A and FAQ" if you're newer to the game. Dudecore compiled everything you'll need to know, and at the bottom I did a "Frequently Asked Questions" section. If your questions aren't answered there, you're always free to post it here.
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
To be completely honest.
I have only listened to other magic players explain the basics and complicated matters as they arise.
Never read the official "rules" page that comes with decks.
And I don't think they have either.
This brings me to a new question.
If you need multiple defenders to block all this damage. If they don't. Does the excess damage get dealt to the player?
You have got to be joking! WotC want's aggro to be the next big thing yet they cannot even explain how it works to players through simple guides found in intro decks? What is this game coming to? I am not mad at you guys, I just think that it is ironic that the company who pushes the game to be aggro heavy does not even explain how the combat works.
Truth is you do not need multiple blockers to stop damage. If you attack with a 5/5 and I block with a 1/1, I take no damage and my 1/1 dies. The only case I would take damage here is if an ability says otherwise. An example of this would be the ability called Trample. Trample states that any excess damage is dealt to the player. Again, referring to my example, if I block with a 1/1 there is 4 damage remaining. So in that case I would take 4 damage because of the ability of Trample.
The reason blocking with multiple creatures above is important is not the same as the example I just provided. If you want to kill an attacking creature, you blockers must have power equal to the attacking creature's toughness. So again if you attack with a 5/5 and I block with a 1/1 and 4/1, both of my creatures die and so does yours. In this case I take no damage. Now, if that same 5/5 had trample it works slightly differently. You assign 1 damage to the 1/1 (you can assign more but it is pointless to do so) and 1 to the 4/1. In this case all 3 creatures die, but your creature still had 3 damage remaining. Because of trample, I would then take the 3 damage that was left over.
They seriously need to read the rules. That's all I'm going to say.
Thank you for your help. Everyone on this app I feel has made me a much better player.
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 07:12:08 PM
They seriously need to read the rules. That's all I'm going to say.
Thank you for your help. Everyone on this app I feel has made me a much better player.
No problem. If this is how WotC teaches their newer players the game then I feel sorry for you. Expect to be coming back many times with more questions for their lack of clarity.
/WotC aggro endorsement fail
They just don't speak plain enough. They use super confusing terminology I'd need a lawyer to sort out lol.
But then you guys are like
"Oh you just do this."
And I'm like
._. I'm not stupid or anything...am I?
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 07:15:07 PM
They just don't speak plain enough. They use super confusing terminology I'd need a lawyer to sort out lol.
But then you guys are like
"Oh you just do this."
And I'm like
._. I'm not stupid or anything...am I?
No you are not stupid. Some of us are just really seasoned players that have been playing for many years. I have been playing about a decade myself. WotC was really bad about how they taught players way back when all of us veterans started playing. You basically had to know somebody who played since the internet was still not a big thing and they never included rules inserts like they do now.
Well you guys make this much simpler.
And I'm gonna ruin my friends day when he learns sleep and extort are completely different then he believes.
Thanks everybody for the clarification. That's how I thought it worked and as far a the inserts I checked mine before asking this question and no it does not have an in depth explanation for the attacking phase. It doesn't even show what happened when you block with multiple creatures.
Does it even say whether you CAN block one monster with multiple creatures?
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 09, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on May 09, 2013, 07:15:07 PM
They just don't speak plain enough. They use super confusing terminology I'd need a lawyer to sort out lol.
But then you guys are like
"Oh you just do this."
And I'm like
._. I'm not stupid or anything...am I?
No you are not stupid. Some of us are just really seasoned players that have been playing for many years. I have been playing about a decade myself. WotC was really bad about how they taught players way back when all of us veterans started playing. You basically had to know somebody who played since the internet was still not a big thing and they never included rules inserts like they do now.
Way back when I started playing you could buy a 60 card "deck" of random cards. In it they had a small book that explained all the rules. I was expecting something similar when I started playing again. The rules insert they have now is insufficient for new players and quite useless.
Quote from: Destore117 on May 10, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
Does it even say whether you CAN block one monster with multiple creatures?
Ha, well whether or not it does, yes, you can.