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Title: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Opticarrow8 on May 06, 2013, 10:28:39 PM
Worth it? Not worth it?
Trying to make a decision in my junk reanimator.
Along with that plz give thoughts on vraska as well.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Wally on May 06, 2013, 10:33:41 PM
I think more information is required.

Context for one. A deck list would be handy.

Put it this way though. If you can play/put a griselbrand on the battlefield. Do it. He's fantastic.

Vraska is alright, she protects herself while getting bigger. Her -3 is really what makes her work.  Her -7 is a bit 'winmore'
{Griselbrand}
{Vraska the Unseen}
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: NyghtHawk on May 06, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Vrasks no, but I always like Griselbrand in Junk rites.

He's a big beefy guy with lifelink and card draw. Yeah, he can hurt you if hes stuck in your hand but more times than not you will ditch him through the draws or I also like running Lotleth trolls :)
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Opticarrow8 on May 06, 2013, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on May 06, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Vrasks no, but I always like Griselbrand in Junk rites.

He's a big beefy guy with lifelink and card draw. Yeah, he can hurt you if hes stuck in your hand but more times than not you will ditch him through the draws or I also like running Lotleth trolls :)
Aight good info, i'll post a decklist as is later.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 06, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
Vraska for sb
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Opticarrow8 on May 06, 2013, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 06, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
Vraska for sb
Throwing in againstttt?
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 06, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
{Griselbrand} is never not a good choice. I use him in every reanimator deck I make.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Opticarrow8 on May 06, 2013, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 06, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
{Griselbrand} is never not a good choice. I use him in every reanimator deck I make.
Just realized how much he's worth. Nevermind guys party's over...
Wallet you have failed me again.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 06, 2013, 11:32:52 PM
He is so worth it and sees serious play in eternal formats. Except EDH :(
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Langku on May 06, 2013, 11:46:36 PM
Opticarrow, rotation is only a few months away. Maybe your wallet needs time to power up anyway...
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Wally on May 07, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 06, 2013, 11:32:52 PM
He is so worth it and sees serious play in eternal formats. Except EDH :(

That reminds me, anyone got ideas on what to use my oversized one for?
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Silent1236 on May 07, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
Quote from: Wally on May 07, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
That reminds me, anyone got ideas on what to use my oversized one for?

Frame it. Or see if grizzle makes good kindling. 
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 07, 2013, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: Wally on May 07, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 06, 2013, 11:32:52 PM
He is so worth it and sees serious play in eternal formats. Except EDH :(

That reminds me, anyone got ideas on what to use my oversized one for?
You could trade it to meeee! I want a big Grizzly Bear!
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Gorzo on May 07, 2013, 08:05:37 PM
If you run Griz, you might want to run a little discard, like {Duress} to target yourself with to dump him, in case he gets stuck in your hand.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 07, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
You can't! {duress} says target opponent.
Aaand non-creature... ;-)
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 07, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
{Liliana of the Veil} is a nice discard outlet.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Opticarrow8 on May 07, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 07, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
{Liliana of the Veil} is a nice discard outlet.
I would throw one in if i had that kind of $
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Coffee Vampire on May 07, 2013, 10:56:27 PM
I would not run {Griselbrand} in standard reanimator. Right now it would be best to play deathrites, thrags, disciple of bolas, angel, etc. and then drop {Craterhoof Behemoth}.

Think of it this way: reanimate something that can draw you seven cards, which will probably make you win; or, reanimate something that ends the game right away.

I realize grisel is better in formats where drawing seven cards really does end the game, because the cards you draw are more powerful. But in standard, just casting craterhoof and derping all your permanents sideways seems like the best option.

Edit: oh and by casting, I mean reanimating (most times!) of course.
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: Gorzo on May 07, 2013, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 07, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
You can't! {duress} says target opponent.
Aaand non-creature... ;-)

Derp. My apologies, I was just throwing a random discard spell from graveborn out there. I think I had it mixed up with {cabal therapy} in my head. Which is not standard :P
Title: Re: Giselbrand/ vraska
Post by: ibtrickey on May 09, 2013, 08:05:12 PM
An easy way to beat griz is bower passage though. It helps. And dma brought out more