I want to know like what a good hand is, what to use {Angel of Serenity} on, what time to play the {Thragtusk} flicker off {Restoration Angel}, and so on.
Words of wisdom?
I intend to play a junk deck at the grand prix and i figured learning how to play it would be slightly essential.
You do not want griselbrand in your opening hand. He just keeps up space. You also want to flicker craterhoof behemoths because of awesomeness. Also you would want one rites in your hand and the rest can go into the graveyard. That would be 5 creatures and that should sustain you. You want only 1 rites in your hand at a time. Having 4 of em and waiting for the right creatures will take too long. You need mana dorks. All i got
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 02, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
You do not want griselbrand in your opening hand. He just keeps up space. You also want to flicker craterhoof behemoths because of awesomeness. Also you would want one rites in your hand and the rest can go into the graveyard. That would be 5 creatures and that should sustain you. You want only 1 rites in your hand at a time. Having 4 of em and waiting for the right creatures will take too long. You need mana dorks. All i got
All good, i just dont run {Griselbrand}. But good stuff none the less.
I would highly suggest running him. You are mainly getting turn 3/4 7/7 flying lifelink
Look at some of these lists:
http://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=227&meta=52 (http://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=227&meta=52)
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 02, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
I would highly suggest running him. You are mainly getting turn 3/4 7/7 flying lifelink
He's not competative, he dose not win games against aggro angel of serenity does, and aggro is junk rites hardest match up,
So you need her, IMO
No thragtusk ;) hes toogood it frustrates me
Grisal is more of a 1 of
Sb card
Because you want angel to save you and craterhoof to finish them,
Also run 3-4 {Acidic Slime} sb, put them in and take thragtusk out against control and midrange, life
Gain is not needed against control, control can't defend there land and there life, and slime stops naya and jund from getting thundermaw thragtusk or aurlia and sometimes
Olivia and hunt master
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 02, 2013, 10:14:29 PM
Grisal is more of a 1 of
Sb card
Because you want angel to save you and craterhoof to finish them,
Yeah i have the slimes, could you explain how to properly use craterhoof? I have 2 in my decklist but never really knew how to use.
You want to reanimate craterhoof last. Then all your creatures get like +20/+20
One time i got 2 craterhoofs back an got +61/+61
When you have a couple creatures out, you play/reanimate craterhoof and attack and kill things. Hes an aggo card pure and simple, you play him when you calculate the most damage for the least risk
Quote from: MisterJH on May 02, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
When you have a couple creatures out, you play/reanimate craterhoof and attack and kill things. Hes an aggo card pure and simple, you play him when you calculate the most damage for the least risk
How do i play/reanimate without having to go through combat though?
Lol nvm dumb question...
No questions a dumb question! But that ones pretty close ;) jk i kid, i just dont understand it, you want to play reanimator without havig to attack?
Quote from: KangaRod on May 03, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
I would recommend scrapping your idea to play rites and build a RDW, RG Aggro or Naya Blitz
Naya blitz is what i already have... It's boring.
Quote from: MisterJH on May 02, 2013, 11:23:15 PM
No questions a dumb question! But that ones pretty close ;) jk i kid, i just dont understand it, you want to play reanimator without havig to attack?
I didnt say no attack... That's what thrags are for.
Quote from: KangaRod on May 03, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
I would recommend scrapping your idea to play rites and build a RDW, RG Aggro or Naya Blitz
Your kidding right? Junk rites is the
Best deck if
You beat someone playing it there probably bad at it.
Also you want to craterhoof when you have enough to do damage, the best part
Though, he gives your creatures trample, so just add there life total and the toughness of the creatures blocking(some creatures may very) If you can do the same
Ammount of damage or
More play him.
Normally you want to reanimate serenity first To save you, and then hoof to win you
The difference between a good junk reanimator and a great one is {Séance}. This card makes the difference. How many you run depends but definitely more than one.
Another thing that junk reanimator needs to be great is a splash of red. Not a lot, just enough to:
- hard cast {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight} late game if you have to (she saves you against the aggro matchup, definitely run her.)
- run {Slayer's Stronghold} (VERY helpful card. Hasted {Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}, or even hasted {Deathrite Shaman} is extemely useful.
- run {Slaughter Games} in the sideboard.
Some good cards are:
{Craterhoof Behemoth}
{Thragtusk}
{Deathrite Shaman}
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}
{Obzedat, Ghost Council}
{Disciple of Bolas}
{Angel of Serenity}
Disciple of bolas is such a good card. Especially with Séance! Séance in a disciple and sac your {Thragtusk}, or séance in a thrag to and cast disciple! Séance plus trostani can let you populate anything. Craterhoof tokens. Thrag tokens. Angel tokens.
I know all this because although I don't run reanimator, my friend does. He almost always wins FNM. Without Séance, the deck would not be near as good. Some people put in resto angels instead, but test it. Resto angels help you gain value, but séance makes you win when you have a craterhoof in the yard and no rites left. And it gains you a ton of value in the meantime.
I haven't tested seance in mine I run 3 resto, IMO resto is better against aggro
But if your meta is control and midrange go with seance
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 03, 2013, 09:31:22 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 03, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
I would recommend scrapping your idea to play rites and build a RDW, RG Aggro or Naya Blitz
Your kidding right? Junk rites is the
Best deck if
You beat someone playing it there probably bad at it.
Lol true dat
Really good stuff guys, now do you have any of it for trade XD?
Again, I may ask about {treasure find}. I love this card in a reanimator deck. Use your reanimate spell to get what you want. Then use treasure find to put it back on top your library.
Not a 4 of. But I always run 2
Quote from: KangaRod on May 03, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 03, 2013, 09:31:22 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 03, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
I would recommend scrapping your idea to play rites and build a RDW, RG Aggro or Naya Blitz
Your kidding right? Junk rites is the
Best deck if
You beat someone playing it there probably bad at it.
My point is if you're asking how to play the deck, go with something simpler.
I already went through simpler, and it's boring. I'm experienced enough to take on a harder playstyle.
Play Esper Control.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 03, 2013, 10:24:31 PM
Play Esper Control.
Ew no, i tried that, didnt like how slow it was.
Quote from: KangaRod on May 04, 2013, 07:41:05 AM
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on May 03, 2013, 09:34:56 PM
I already went through simpler, and it's boring. I'm experienced enough to take on a harder playstyle.
If its simpler and easier for you, it will be much less stressful to play over 7 or 8 rounds.
When you're playing that amount of magic in a day, it need to be second nature if you want to be successful, and I think at this conjecture if knowing how to play the deck isn't instinctive, it's a mistake to bring it to a GP and expect to be successful.
Well i'm gonna have a lot of playtest on it at multiple fnms, so i will have it at second nature level.
Plus i like the stressful rounds, hardcore spike player type here.
Yesssss! Placed first with junk rites at fnm 5-0!
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on May 04, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
Yesssss! Placed first with junk rites at fnm 5-0!
Sweet nicely done broski, no wonder you have all that good info. You should totally send me your deck list so i can see if the one i made is gonna be worth a damn.
Alright, I'll send it it's pretty much a classic
Junk rites
With a good sb ill send it over
I sent the list and explained about the sb