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Title: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on April 30, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
They made a creature that costs {G}{G} and is a freaking 3/3!

This is a slippery slope that might push aggro to be the only archetype that is viable...grrr

http://mythicspoiler.com/m14/
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 05:10:35 PM
Green often has creatures that push their mana cost. I dont think it is all that bad honestly
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on April 30, 2013, 05:14:34 PM
{garruks companion} is a 3/2 for 2....wait. I forgot. There was some wolf in ravnica that was a 3/3 for {W}{G}....never mind
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Silent1236 on April 30, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
{Watchwolf}
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
 {Leatherback Baloth}
{deadbridge goliath}
{primalcrux}

Its the way of life
Oh, {call of the conclave}
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Xaol on April 30, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
Doesn't seem too bad to me. It's power creep.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 05:33:05 PM
Until i see vanilla 2/2s for one ill keep my peace
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on April 30, 2013, 05:38:02 PM
Or a vanilla 5/5 for 0 that has haste, trample, hexproof, double strike, death touch and lifelink...something like that it would have to have, "you lose the game at the end of the turn" or something
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Frothandslosh on April 30, 2013, 06:10:42 PM
{Woolly Thoctar}

Umad?
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Everforward on April 30, 2013, 06:11:44 PM
Have you see The instant speed 5/5 trampler token for 4?
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Teysa karlov on April 30, 2013, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: Everforward on April 30, 2013, 06:11:44 PM
Have you see The instant speed 5/5 trampler token for 4?

{Advent of the Wurm}

I've got two of that card
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Frothandslosh on April 30, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
Then there's {Force of Savagery} and {Incandescent Soulstroke}.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 30, 2013, 05:38:02 PM
Or a vanilla 5/5 for 0 that has haste, trample, hexproof, double strike, death touch and lifelink...something like that it would have to have, "you lose the game at the end of the turn" or something
The equivalent of {pact of the titan} but on roids
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Dudecore on April 30, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 30, 2013, 05:38:02 PM
Or a vanilla 5/5 for 0 that has haste, trample, hexproof, double strike, death touch and lifelink...something like that it would have to have, "you lose the game at the end of the turn" or something

Wouldn't be vanilla then would it?

3/3 for 2 with no abilities doesn't frighten me. If it was {1}{G} splashible I'd be worried.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 30, 2013, 09:56:15 PM
Ask me if I would rather see strangleroot geist than this "scary" card. My answer is no. Standard offers better things than even this. I would love my aggro opponent to waste his or her second turn casting a guy with no haste!
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Silent1236 on April 30, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
Woah, good point CV!  Totally forgot about strangleroot.  Makes this guy seem really mediocre now haha
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 11:12:38 PM
Well.. Because he is:p
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 30, 2013, 11:25:28 PM
It just goes to show you, standard is getting way out of hand. Everything is either overpowered, or not played in constructed decks. Everything has to have more p/t than mana cost, haste, or sick mana costs. I am not sure I like how things are going. But it is probably like an economic cycle...it will pass with time.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: MisterJH on April 30, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
Or result in the death of magic... Look at how ridiculous yugioh is now, perhaps magic is on the same downward spiral
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Crapshooter on May 01, 2013, 01:29:00 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 01, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
Never. I think magic is better than it ever has been.

Eh, more players, but I'm on the anti-aggro wagon. It would be nice to see decks with more spirit than turn sideways and win.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Coffee Vampire on May 01, 2013, 01:42:11 AM
I doubt magic will be like yugio. It's just standard that bothers me at the moment. Other formats are not being harmed...when was the last time someone playing modern or legacy tapped out for a {Thragtusk}? I just think that the t2 card pool is pure insanity right now. But it will pass hopefully, and probably with no lasting efffect on the game.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on May 01, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
They gave us lots of stuff to help aggro. I hope next they give us stuff for control builds, and then the next block for combo builds
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Crapshooter on May 01, 2013, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 01, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
They gave us lots of stuff to help aggro. I hope next they give us stuff for control builds, and then the next block for combo builds

I'm with you all the way.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on May 01, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on May 01, 2013, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 01, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
They gave us lots of stuff to help aggro. I hope next they give us stuff for control builds, and then the next block for combo builds

I'm with you all the way.
yea. Although I'm not against aggro. It provides variety to the game
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on May 01, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 01, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
Except that control decks still exist and win? I don't understand why you guys are just forgetting about them.
the top decks (last I checked) were all aggro. Except maybe Kiki-Jiki
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 01, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 01, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
Except that control decks still exist and win? I don't understand why you guys are just forgetting about them.
I actually agree with you there, my friend Lane runs American Control and it's extremely fine tuned and my other buddy Josh has a really sweet Grixis Control. They definitely still exist, hence the price tag on {Sphinx's Revelation} currently, Aggro is just more popular in the current meta. Maybe if we get a reprint of {Mana Leak} in M14 we'll see a little more control play.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 01, 2013, 08:32:18 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 01, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 01, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
Except that control decks still exist and win? I don't understand why you guys are just forgetting about them.
Maybe if we get a reprint of {Mana Leak} in M14 we'll see a little more control play.
please do this WoTC
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Coffee Vampire on May 01, 2013, 09:42:21 PM
I think it was dudecore who said that aggro is not actually the best, butt it has the most quantity-for every control deck there are 4 aggro decks, so more will ahow up placing in tourneys. I agree with this theory. So while aggro isn't always better than control in the current meta, it does win more simply because more people play it.
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Birdbrain on May 02, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
{convolute}
Title: Re: What the hell?!
Post by: Bozo_Law on May 02, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 02, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
{convolute}

I could see convolute.