Does {Goblin Electromancer}s effect work on both sides of a dual card like {Turn // Burn} or does it just count towards the total cost of the two. A 1UR kill spell sounds a lot better than a 2UR kill spell.
I believe you pay each cost separately. Which means if you fuse them, it gets cheaper by {2}
Actually, you only reduce the cost by 1 because they count as a single spell when fused. This is taken from the wizards FAQ:
Any time you could cast a split card with fuse, you can choose one half and cast it, just like any other split card. And if you're casting it from your hand (as you usually are), you have the additional option to cast both halves as a single spell by paying their combined cost. Instructions on the left half are processed first, then the instructions on the right, and targets for the two halves are chosen separately.
The important thing to remember about split cards is that they are still only 1 card, even if you are doing something to both halves such as casting via fuse. It will always be one, single card - it just has varying cost and effect
(Except for CMC which is always the same - CMC is always both halves combined)
I believe rulings say that if you cast only one half, the cmc on stack is the cast half's cmc only, not the combined cmc
Quote from: Mentonin on April 28, 2013, 06:03:48 AM
I believe rulings say that if you cast only one half, the cmc on stack is the cast half's cmc only, not the combined cmc
Yep!
708.2. In every zone except the stack, split cards have two sets of characteristics and two converted mana costs. As long as a split card is a spell on the stack, only the characteristics of the half being cast exist. The other half's characteristics are treated as though they didn't exist.
Split cards are kinda confusing. For cards like {Dark Confidant}, a card (say {Fire // Ice}) counts as having both cmc (in this case 2 and 2) and the total would be lost (4 in this example). However, for cards that interact with a card that has "cmc less than 3" (also targeting a split card not on the stack) will affect the card as long as one of the sides fits the requirements. While on the stack, whichever side is casted is the one that matters, the other side is non-existent.
Split cards are just plain silly sometimes.
My mistake - on the stack, they are an exception.
I am confident, however, in the answer that Electromancer will only reduce a fused card by {1}. When you fuse a card, you are casting one spell card with both properties. You will also counter them both with a single {cancel} by targeting the spell, which is on the stack as, for example, {Beck // Call}, not one spell called {Beck} and another spell called {Call}. They are one in the same. Fused together (hence why they called it fuse and not something like dual cast)
Make sense?
Agreed, Gorzo. It is treated as one spell, with the characteristics of both halves. Since you are not casting two spells, there's no reason the Electromancer would kick in twice. One spell, one reduction, simple as that!
Also I found out during this last prerelease that you can only extort the card once, which after what you quoted makes sense, still though. On another note, Extort is disgusting in 2HG lol.