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Title: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: Draxilion on April 23, 2013, 08:51:11 PM
I built an edh/commander deck using jarad golgari lich lord as my commander.  My question is does damage caused by his sacrifice effect ( tap 1 black and green  sacrifice another creature:  each opponent loses life equal to the sacrificed creatures power) count towards the damage dealt by a commander or is it normal damage?
Title: Re: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: The1337Magician on April 23, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
 {Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
Nope, it's not commander damage. It would be if it said: Sacrifice and Jarad deals damage.
Otherwise, it's them losing life and nothing more.
Title: Re: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: Keyeto on April 23, 2013, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on April 23, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
Nope, it's not commander damage. It would be if it said: Sacrifice and Jarad deals damage.
Otherwise, it's them losing life and nothing more.
Furthermore, commander damage only counts if its combat damage. Any other damage won't do the trick, I'm afraid.

Here's the ruling, for reference:

903.14a A player that's been dealt 21 or more combat damage by the same commander over the course of the game loses the game. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.)

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Title: Re: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: The1337Magician on April 23, 2013, 09:01:58 PM
 {Ashling the Pilgrim}, {Axelrod Gunnarson}, {Borborygmos Enraged}, and  {Bosh, Iron Golem} are just the first few examples I could find where this works. It has to say their name doing the damage.

Edit: Whoops didn't know it had to be combat damage. But still it's a cool list of cards. Thanks Keyeto for clarifying.

Edit 2: and Chris.
Title: Re: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on April 23, 2013, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on April 23, 2013, 09:01:58 PM
{Ashling the Pilgrim}, {Axelrod Gunnarson}, {Borborygmos Enraged}, and  {Bosh, Iron Golem} are just the first few examples I could find where this works. It has to say their name doing the damage.
Sorry it can only be combat damage.
Title: Re: Jarad golgari lich lord
Post by: Draxilion on April 23, 2013, 09:23:46 PM
That's perfectly fine this deck can still do mass amounts of normal damage through jarad's sacrifice ability through the many creatures that have this creature has +1+1 for every creature in the graveyard and the fact I made sure to include plenty of spells and effects that let me send stuff from my hand, deck or in play to the graveyard