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Title: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Coffee Vampire on February 22, 2012, 07:47:40 AM
If you have the ability to play a card, do you have to if otherwise you would discard a card because your maximum hand size is breached?
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Rass on February 22, 2012, 08:06:10 AM
Nope. You don't have to play a card you can choose to discard.
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: KulrathKnight on February 22, 2012, 09:44:43 AM
If I have a {Gnat Miser} and my opponent has a {Spellbook} out, is his maximum hand size six?

I'm asking because I saw one of the rules says something along the lines of "If two abilities contradict each other, the negation wins" so I'm guessing the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Theroguard on February 22, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
Spellbook take affect first so you would not have
To discard
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Theroguard on February 22, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
But that's just my knowledge


Ps. I hate spelling
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 22, 2012, 07:47:40 AM
If you have the ability to play a card, do you have to if otherwise you would discard a card because your maximum hand size is breached?
Maximum hand size is only check once at the end of your turn. At any other time you can have any number of cards
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: Theroguard on February 22, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
Spellbook take affect first so you would not have
To discard
Well, it depends on which came into play first, but one says "your hand size is reduced by one" an the other says "you have no max". So infinity minus one is still infinity. You still have no max hand size.
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Bilygote on February 22, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
My understanding in this situation is the last played card trumps the other
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
Quote from: Bilygote on February 22, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
My understanding in this situation is the last played card trumps the other
I was wrong.  I know, hard to believe, but it was bound to happen sometime.  ;)

{Spell Book} Rulings:
   If multiple effects modify your hand size, apply them in timestamp order. For example, if you put Null Profusion (an enchantment that says your maximum hand size is two) onto the battlefield and then put Spellbook onto the battlefield, you'll have no maximum hand size. However, if those permanents entered the battlefield in the opposite order, your maximum hand size would be two.
   
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2012, 01:47:36 PM
No I believe you are still correct in the OP's case.
Infinity less 1 is still infinity.
If it was an absolute number (say, max hand size is 1) then that would be the case, as it was the later modifier in both cases.
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: Wally on February 22, 2012, 01:47:36 PM
No I believe you are still correct in the OP's case.
Infinity less 1 is still infinity.
If it was an absolute number (say, max hand size is 1) then that would be the case, as it was the later modifier in both cases.

Ah HA!  You see?!?  I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was incorrect. ðŸ˜,😁ðŸ'
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Rass on February 22, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
So two wrongs do make a right
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 22, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
So two wrongs do make a right
I dunno, but two Wrights make a plane. ✈
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Validan on February 22, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 22, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
So two wrongs do make a right
I dunno, but two Wrights make a plane. ✈

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Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: Validan on February 22, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 22, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 22, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
So two wrongs do make a right
I dunno, but two Wrights make a plane. ✈

............
*sigh* ðŸ˜"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers
Title: Re: Maximum Hand Size Question
Post by: Maximo on February 22, 2012, 02:08:17 PM
I thought two Wrights make an Anything Agency.