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Title: Fight + first strike
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:34:05 PM
How do they work together, if at all
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Vyse on April 18, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
First strike and double strike, along with flying don't apply in fight effects.

RESOLVED
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on April 18, 2013, 09:12:45 PM
Neither do trample, shadow, vigilance, etc. the only static abilities that apply to fighting are lifelink and deathtouch... aaaand infect...aaand you get the idea. Abilities dealing with COMBAT DAMAGE are useless, abilities dealing with DAMAGE DEALT trigger.
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Can someone make an actual list of the ones that work so I can tell my friend who insists first strike among other things work
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:41:24 PM
Dang. I wish it did
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on April 18, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Can someone make an actual list of the ones that work so I can tell my friend who insists first strike among other things work

Things that work:

Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect

Things that don't work:

First Strike, Double Strike, Trample

Anything else you need to know?
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on April 18, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Can someone make an actual list of the ones that work so I can tell my friend who insists first strike among other things work

Things that work:

Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect

Things that don't work:

First Strike, Double Strike, Trample

Anything else you need to know?
what if something fights {stuffy doll}? What happens?
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:55:05 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on April 18, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Can someone make an actual list of the ones that work so I can tell my friend who insists first strike among other things work

Things that work:

Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect

Things that don't work:

First Strike, Double Strike, Trample

Anything else you need to know?
what if something fights {stuffy doll}? What happens?
Stuffy doll deals no damage, and whatever it's fighting deals damage to stuffy doll. The dolls targeted player takes damage.
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:56:20 PM
That's what I thought happened
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Wally on April 18, 2013, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on April 18, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Can someone make an actual list of the ones that work so I can tell my friend who insists first strike among other things work

Things that work:

Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect

Things that don't work:

First Strike, Double Strike, Trample

Anything else you need to know?
what if something fights {stuffy doll}? What happens?

Stuffy Doll is indestructible.
Whenever Stuffy Doll is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to the chosen player.

it says nothing about combat damage, treat it as normal.


Anything concerning combat or combat damage or combat phases, is disregarded in the circumstances of a "fight".
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:58:20 PM
I'm thinking I need to add a "Fight" section to the FAQ.
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 10:31:50 PM
No nothing else thanks a lot
Title: Re: Fight + first strike
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on April 18, 2013, 10:31:50 PM
No nothing else thanks a lot
No problem. Glad to help out!