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Title: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
I roll an 8
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Therobsta12 on April 18, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
I can play ya with my standard deck if ya want, I roll 10
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
That's fine you move
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Draw

{ancient ziggurat}

{kird ape}

Pass

20/5
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
Draw

Forest

{elvish warrior}

Pass

20/4
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:26:03 PM
Draw
{Simic Guildgate}
{Fog Bank}
20/4
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
Sorry didn't mean I delete that last message
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:29:59 PM
Draw

{lightning bolt} one fog bank

{prey upon} the other

Attack for 4

End turn

20/2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:30:43 PM
Draw
{Ultimate Price}on the gorilla
16/5
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
Draw

{ancient ziggurat}

{burning tree emissary}

Attack for 2

End turn

20/1
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
Swamp
{Ogre Jailbreaker}
14/3
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:37:18 PM
Draw

{soul surge elemental}

Thinking...
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Pass...

20/1
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
Draw
Island
{Galvanic Alchemist} not pared
14/2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
Draw

{ember beast}

{prey upon} the beast and the soulbound dude

Unless you have a response

Attack with soul surge

Edit: oh crud..can I take the prey upon back? I'm doing like 4 things at once now XP
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
Respond with  {Fog}
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:47:39 PM
End turn

20/?

Can I take the prey upon back? I'm doing 4 things at once now...
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:50:30 PM
Draw
{Hover Barrier}
14/2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:51:36 PM
u can take it back
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:52:21 PM
Draw

{soul surge elemental}

Thinking
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:53:34 PM
Attack with soul surge, elvish warrior, burning tree emissary, and ember beast.

Blocks?
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:56:41 PM
Hover barrier- elemental
Alchemist -burning tree
Ogre to beast
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:02:54 PM
So I lose the beast and you take 2

Go

20/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Draw
Swamp
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
Then  {Doorkeeper}
12/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:08:28 PM
Draw

{flame slash} the axebane dude

Attack with the 2 first striking elementals, the elvish warrior, and the emissary
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
Hover to elemental
Alchemist to elf
Ogre to burning tree
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:13:18 PM
So you take 4 than? 3? What do you take?
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:15:20 PM
I had 4 creatures when I attacked, so lets just call it 4

End turn

20/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
One elemental
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
I have 2 in play
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:17:59 PM
I blocked one
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
And I was saying one had dealt damage to you
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:20:08 PM
Ok your turn done
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:20:25 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:25:03 PM
Draw
{Divination}
Draw 2
8/2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Draw

{flame slash} the ogre

Thinking
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:28:46 PM
Attack with everything
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Fog
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:31:38 PM
Your turn

20/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
you can only pair it to one
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
I had one on the battlefield prior
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
Draw

{kird ape}

Attack with both elementals and the warrior
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
I had one on the battlefield prior
i checked the other posts. You only had one
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:40:20 PM
Hover blocks one elemental
Alchemist to warrior
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:41:20 PM
So you take 4.

End turn

20/0
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Draw
{Divination}
Draw 2
{Gatecreeper Vine} play forest
{Doorkeeper}
Then with axebane guardian I have infinite manna and with doorkeeper I infinitely mill you so....... That's it
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Draw
{Divination}
Draw 2
{Gatecreeper Vine} play forest
{Doorkeeper}
Then with axebane guardian I have infinite manna and with doorkeeper I infinitely mill you so....... That's it
no. You only had 1 alchemist. You only blocked with one alchemist. And I only see 1 alchemist ever be played in this thread. The deleted post was a fog bank. You can't pair it to two creatures
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
Draw

{ember beast}

{prey upon} the beast and the soulbound dude

Unless you have a response

Attack with soul surge

Edit: oh crud..can I take the prey upon back? I'm doing like 4 things at once now XP
There it is
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
Draw

{ember beast}

{prey upon} the beast and the soulbound dude

Unless you have a response

Attack with soul surge

Edit: oh crud..can I take the prey upon back? I'm doing like 4 things at once now XP
There it is
thats not playing it. I realized I messed up and its still alive. But you only played 1 through this whole thread
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
Your a cheater
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
Then this one making 2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
Then this one making 2
that gives you infinite mana, I blew that axe bane up, and it repaired with your other axebane

And you can't soulbound to 2 creatures. Plus, doorkeeper was already in play, so you can't soulbound with it anyway
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Draw
Swamp
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
Then  {Doorkeeper}
12/0
I had 2
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
I a third party went through and counted the alchemists and I counted 1
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:58:10 PM
I had one on the field in the begging which he used prey upon but then took back then I played a second when I played axebane guardian
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
Even so. Soulbound triggers when a creature enters the battlefield

So you can only pair the one you played

And it can only be with the creature or from the creature that enters
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
When either that creature or anther enters the battlefield
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:06:05 PM
But it must target either the creature that entered, or be targeting from the creature that entered. You can play a soul bound with a soulbound on the field and pair one to the one of your choice, and the one on the battlefield to something already on the battlefield
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:07:39 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
Draw
Island
{Galvanic Alchemist} not pared
14/2
Nope I stated when played not paired
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:08:51 PM
Then you can only pair that one to something you play from your hand
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
Yes I did I paired that one to axebane the I played the othe alchemist on doorkeeper
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:07:39 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
Draw
Island
{Galvanic Alchemist} not pared
14/2
Nope I stated when played not paired
your a liar too
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
I'm not this when I paired everything
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:15:05 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Draw
{Axebane Guardian}pair it
{Galvanic Alchemist}pair it to doorkeeper
8/0
I'm not this when I paired everything
you can only pair the soulbound that was already on the battlefield with something that comes into play under your control. Your cant pair a soulbound on the battlefield with something already on the battlefield
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:16:50 PM
Yes you can click on galvanic alchemist and read soul bond
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:19:15 PM
"You can pair this creature with an unpaired creature WHEN EITHER enters the battlefield"

Word for word what it says
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:20:09 PM
Yes and one did
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:22:18 PM
Quote from: Bonesword on April 18, 2013, 09:20:09 PM
Yes and one did
but you can't pair the one that's on the battlefield unless its to the creature that entered the battlefield
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Can we please get a third party in here?
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Can we please get a third party in here?
Alright, what's going on?
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Can we please get a third party in here?
Alright, what's going on?
can he soulbound something on the battlefield to something already on the battlefield when a creature with soulbound enters the battlefield?
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 09:28:35 PM
After extensively reading this game bonesword did have 2 alchemists out
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:30:18 PM
But you can only soulbound when either enters the battlefield. Not when anything enters
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Can we please get a third party in here?
Alright, what's going on?
can he soulbound something on the battlefield to something already on the battlefield when a creature with soulbound enters the battlefield?
It depends on what he's trying to soulbond to what. Can I get a description of the play in question? Trying to read through this is a bit difficult. If you could describe what happened I can help settle this.
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
I'm not any good at rulings so ill leave the rulings to keyeto
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
He had a {galvanic alchemist} and {door keeper} and {axebane guardian} already in play. He tried to pair the first alchemist to the doorkeeper when the second entered the battlefield
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on April 18, 2013, 09:35:34 PM
Yeah he wouldn't have been able to do that, it's logical to me
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
He had a {galvanic alchemist} and {door keeper} and {axebane guardian} already in play. He tried to pair the first alchemist to the doorkeeper when the second entered the battlefield
Alright then, thanks for the breakdown. The first alchemist would not be able to be paired to the door keeper. The second one can pair to whatever it wants, but the first one had its chance. The only way a non-paired soulbond creature (the first alchemist in thjs case) can pair with another creature once its on the battlefield, is another creature entering the battlefield, in which they can pair with THAT creature.

Here's a ruling, to help clear things up a bit:

702.93a Soulbond is a keyword that represents two triggered abilities. "Soulbond" means "When this creature enters the battlefield, if you control both this creature and another creature and both are unpaired, you may pair this creature with another unpaired creature you control for as long as both remain creatures on the battlefield under your control" and "Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, if you control both that creature and this one and both are unpaired, you may pair that creature with this creature for as long as both remain creatures on the battlefield under your control."

The part relevant to this situation has been bolded.
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:39:36 PM
Draw

{ancient ziggurat}

Attack with everything
Title: Re: Modern
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
He's gone...

And I think he modified that post

Never mind.