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Title: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 17, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
We all know vizkopa guildmage + exquisite blood + anything with extort = infinite combo, but i want to hear some ideas for forcing the needed cards into hand as fast as possible.

Questions comments concerns ideas, post em on up :-D
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Jarrk on April 18, 2013, 01:03:28 AM
Ramp with  {Farseek}, {Avacyn's Pilgrim} and  {Arbor Elf} and use  {Diabolic Revelation} to fetch the guildmage and blood.

{Council of the Absolute} would be good to use for the {Diabolic revelation} if you end up playing another {council of the absolute} you could alway say {Oblivion Ring} or {Exquisite Blood} to be able to cast {exquisite blood} and {Vizkopa guildmage} same turn for 2WBB. Game 2 you could say {slaughter games} or {Mizzium Mortars} with a second {Council of the Absolute}.
Im pretty sure its any damage they recieve or any health you gain. Doesnt need to be both at the same time.

Heres a deck i thought mite be quick at doing the combo. Maybe not so efficient at the moment though.

Creatures - 16
{Arbor Elf} x4
{Avacyn's Pilgrim} x4
{Vizkopa Guildmage} x4
{Council of the Absolute} x4

Spells - 20
{Farseek} x4
{Heroes' Reunion} x2
{Diabolic Revelation} x4
{Detention Sphere} x4
{Oblivion Ring} x2
{Exquisite Blood} x4

Lands - 24
{Temple Garden} x4
{Overgrown Tomb} x4
{Breeding Pool} x4
{Hallowed Fountain} x4
{Glacial Fortress} x4
{Godless Shrine} x4

Im sure this could be done very differently instead with cards like {Think Twice}, {Divination}, and you could always {Sphinx's Revelation} for 1 lol. I havent tested this yet but i think i mite when i get the chance.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 08:20:49 AM
Absolutely fantastic, if i could upvote you i would. Thanks
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Bman0121 on April 18, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
 {Gravecrawler} works wonderfuly with   {Vizkopa Guildmage} and extort
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 02:42:47 PM
Explain.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: Bman0121 on April 18, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
{Gravecrawler} works wonderfuly with   {Vizkopa Guildmage} and extort
oh yea. And throw in something to sac if
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:05:47 PM
{phyrixan alter}?

Edit: anything sac a creature for 2 black mana or something?
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:05:47 PM
{phyrixan alter}?

Edit: anything sac a creature for 2 black mana or something?
{Ashnod's Altar} almost does that. Best thing for black mana is probably {Phyrexian Tower}.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on April 18, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:05:47 PM
{phyrixan alter}?

Edit: anything sac a creature for 2 black mana or something?
{Ashnod's Altar} almost does that. Best thing for black mana is probably {Phyrexian Tower}.
throw in {intruder alarm} make it infinite! Lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Jarrk on April 18, 2013, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 08:20:49 AM
Absolutely fantastic, if i could upvote you i would. Thanks
No problem always glad to help ^^
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
I'm an idiot! That was a land! Lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 03:36:17 PM
An extort card + {carnival of souls} + {grave crawler} + {phyrixan alter}


Infinite extort! Lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 04:12:33 PM
This mechanic is broken. I'm gonna find more ways to break it so wizards never brings it back
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 04:21:33 PM
Shhhhh, you do no such thing... This is hilarious to pull XD
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
I can, and will. They might still bring it back though. There's really nothing I can do about it. I can come up with broken combos for the mechanic though and hope that the stars align and its not brought back
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Mikefrompluto on April 18, 2013, 04:42:29 PM
The name "Extort" has been bothering me since it was announced. The mechanic is not extortion by any means. Your opponent doesn't have a choice in whether you extort or not.

Shinfo.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 04:48:33 PM
What would you call the mechanic?
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Jarrk on April 18, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Siphon?
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
I like siphon, makes more sense. I agree with you guys.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
I hate the mechanic, though I have to admit, it does fit the guild
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Mikefrompluto on April 18, 2013, 06:14:57 PM
Siphon makes more sense, but sounds too much like Cipher.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Opticarrow8 on April 18, 2013, 06:20:31 PM
How about drain?
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
It would be extort if it triggered off the opponents spells. Then you'd be giving them the choice, and it would put them under pressure. And it wouldn't be broken
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
Wait...taxing the opponent for playing there spells? Sounds more Ohrzovy to me than the extort mechanic
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Mikefrompluto on April 18, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
Wait...taxing the opponent for playing there spells? Sounds more Ohrzovy to me than the extort mechanic

That's actually more of what I had in mind for Extort.
Title: Re: Thoughts on extort combo
Post by: Birdbrain on April 18, 2013, 07:03:52 PM
Unless they payed {1}? Orhzov seems like it might tax mana

That (to me) seems to be oozing with the flavor of the guild. Espeacily sense white is more reactive and taxy, while black is drainy