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Title: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 07, 2013, 09:14:07 PM

Blue Black Delver

75 cards, 15 sideboard


3 {Cavern of Souls}
5 {Island}
4 {Watery Grave}
4 {Drowned Catacomb}
5 {Swamp}

21 lands


2 {Duskmantle Seer}
3 {Vampire Nighthawk}
4 {Delver of Secrets}
3 {Snapcaster Mage}

12 creatures


2 {Cyclonic Rift}
1 {Downsize}
3 {Spell Rupture}
2 {Ultimate Price}
3 {Syncopate}
3 {Thought Scour}
3 {Dimir Charm}
3 {Think Twice}
2 {Runechanter's Pike}
2 {Devour Flesh}
3 {Unsummon}

27 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Dimir Charm}
1 {Dispel}
2 {Tragic Slip}
1 {Elixir of Immortality}
3 {Negate}
2 {Liliana of the Veil}
3 {Duress}
2 {Curse of Death's Hold}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Just an idea. Not sure what could be really good. I want to keep the mana curve below 3.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Jdogtoocool on April 08, 2013, 01:30:43 AM
I like it, looks pretty solid. Even though adding just a couple of surprise higher drops wouldn't be a bad idea. You will get a ton of mana before its all said and done so why not
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 08, 2013, 07:22:28 AM
I have looked into duskmantle seer, but I like the vampire nighthawk a little more..
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Bman0121 on April 08, 2013, 07:40:56 AM
Both  {Duskmantle Seer} and  {Vampire Nighthawk} are insane with  {Runechanter's Pike} i think you might want to play 4  {Dimir Charm} it is how you set up your  {Delver of Secrets} and is good with  {Runechanter's Pike} plus it kills  {Deathrite Shaman} and counters sorcerys which is really good
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 08, 2013, 08:06:43 AM
Nighthawk is super insane with the pike and 4 dimir charm is a good idea. I'm not sure what to take out for it though. Maybe a hands of binding.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: whitedrake on April 08, 2013, 08:18:01 AM
Quote from: Byerley121 on April 08, 2013, 07:22:28 AM
I have looked into duskmantle seer, but I like the vampire nighthawk a little more..

I would not worry about playing one or two  {Duskmantle Seer}s here on ur place... With ur mana curve it could be beneficial...;)

Anyway I like ur idea...;) +1 from me...;)
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 08, 2013, 08:38:08 AM
This is true I may run one seer. I haven't had the chance to do a lot of play testing so I don't know really what this decks bad matchups are.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Jdogtoocool on April 09, 2013, 09:59:18 AM
Take out the the 3 unsummons they're no good in the format right now. Also a spell rupture in casr you dont catch a creature right away. Add 4 dimir charms
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 09, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
I am thinking about dropping one unsummon, a counter spell and a. Augur for the fourth charm and 2 duskmantle seers.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Crapshooter on April 09, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
I like the unsummons, they do work, against aggro and mid range they slow the decks down. I would take out the hands of binding to fill the rest, they're great but once you truly start attacking they won't be necessary.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 09, 2013, 04:12:07 PM
Hands of binding is quite nice in the early game as a two for one. But does lose some potential later. I like it as a three of but I havenot gotten in a lot of play testing to see whether it is a blessing or a curse.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 09, 2013, 09:20:42 PM
Took out hands of binding after much thought. What do you think about bone splinters?
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on April 10, 2013, 12:16:55 AM
Sorcery speed that is unreliable.

Why are you only running 19 lands? For this, 22+ should be the range of this deck.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 10, 2013, 07:49:31 AM
Since the mana curve is so low 19 to 21 is the most delver decks run. I will up the mana base to 20 but that's the most I think I will need. It can run on 3 mana even two.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on April 10, 2013, 09:50:56 AM
You're running Vampire Nighthawk and Duskmantle Seer. Key cards that lower the chances of a quick transform of Delver. Those are out of range for a 20 land mana curve. To get into range and still have the ability to have enough spells, you should run 22. 21 is the lowest I would think of.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 10, 2013, 03:49:45 PM
I have thought about dropping the augur which is what may do. I like the seer. It does give aggro some card advantage. But it does do the same for me and hopefully a card the will keep aggro at bay. It is sideboard out for aggro matchups. Remember that although an aggro deck could get a thunder maw off of the seer it would take 5 and then an additional 4 from a swing witch does quite a bit against racing. I like it for the card advantage it gives me. I will see at FNM this week if it really is that great in the mainboard.
Title: Re: Blue Black Delver
Post by: Byerley121 on April 10, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
What is a good other tempo based instant or sorcery spell?